Initiating 4wd Drift
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Well, try to use a Skyline R34 on Tokyo R246 and try to drift the 180 º corner on the upper left hand corner of the course. When you drift that corner, as soon as you see the corner, turn into it as hard as you can. Then, don't countersteer and try to control the drift with the throttle only. I just posted my Skyline settings for that corner, so you can try it out if you have the money 
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My 4wd drift style is pretty much the same for every corner I try, it goes like this:
In my Skyline
Say a left hand corner is comming up, I get going as fast as I can on the inside of the track, then hit the brakes as I slightly turn to the right (yes, to the right, before the corner), then right before the left hand corner, I jerk the car back to the left breaking the ass end loose. From there, I go full throttle and counter steer acordingly to keep the car going where I want it.
Every car is a bit different, so it takes seat time to get to "know" your cars.
Good luck.
In my Skyline
Say a left hand corner is comming up, I get going as fast as I can on the inside of the track, then hit the brakes as I slightly turn to the right (yes, to the right, before the corner), then right before the left hand corner, I jerk the car back to the left breaking the ass end loose. From there, I go full throttle and counter steer acordingly to keep the car going where I want it.
Every car is a bit different, so it takes seat time to get to "know" your cars.
Good luck.
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Originally posted by Thio
I did that earlier today, but it's not 4WD drift. That's 2WD because you are countersteering. 4WD drift is when all four tires are loose and you don't countersteer. You control the drift by the throttle. Correct me if I'm wrong
Really? I didn't know that *slaps head, stupid n00b*
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- Osillion
technically all drift should be 4 wheels spinning. not necesarily an AWD car...but none of the tires are gripping. each drivetrain has its own style of drift..and its own way of making drift. An AWD car can make use of all of its power..so its normally the easiest/fastest/best all around drift car. the angle is different from an FR car because the front tires are gripping and pulling the car through the turn. An FR car drifts at a sharper angle..though it's still possible to drift with minimal counter-steer..but it takes a LOT of skill. as for an FF drivetrain, the e-brake has to be used to initiate it..you use the e-brake to bring oversteer, and the gas to bring understeer, balance the 2 and your drifting FF. I still really suck at drifting on GT3..but in real life, you downshift to the proper gear while braking(heel-toe) then you turn the wheel sharpley into the turn to bring the rear around, in an FR or AWD you hit the gas, on an AWD this will break the tires loose, on a FR this will break the rears loose. once you return the wheel to neutral, an FR will begin to slide on all 4 and should a slight touch of the wheel at the end of the turn will have it pointing in the right direction, same for FR and FF...but for some reason GT3 likes a lot of counter-steering.
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That's very confusing.
Here's the thread about Four Wheel Drifting earlier:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17202
Here's the thread about Four Wheel Drifting earlier:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17202
For say a LanEvo, I would feather the brake while i'm turning to get it sideways (let off the gas before you feather), then go almost full throttle when it's at the right angle and hold the steering or analog halfway facing the the inside of the turn. If it starts to pull out either use the e-brake, let go of the gas or feather the brakes
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for AWD just go fast and when u reach a turn, brake hard and let the car turn sideways then accelerate and you can drift like that, for the skyline, when ever you turn your wheels, it became FR and when u straighten ur steering wheels it became 4wd, if u dont believe me, then try it ok!!!!!!! but for all cars, just go fast on the turn so u'll have enough speed to slide, the break setting should be Front 19 and rear 9 ok,
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Thio is right... with all wheel drive cars there is supposed to be no counter steer... thats is what makes them so phat... they have alot of grip so you can take the turns at higher speeds usually... if you have to use countersteer you need to choose better angles.
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In order to four wheel drift,here's what you have to do:
1. Don't countersteer. If you countersteer, then it's considered two wheel drift, like in Initial D.
2. Control the car by throttle/braking.
The advantage: makes car drift through corners at faster speeds compared to two wheel drift
The disadvantage: doesn't look as exciting as two wheel drift, but still looks exciting
1. Don't countersteer. If you countersteer, then it's considered two wheel drift, like in Initial D.
2. Control the car by throttle/braking.
The advantage: makes car drift through corners at faster speeds compared to two wheel drift
The disadvantage: doesn't look as exciting as two wheel drift, but still looks exciting
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Word thio
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Originally posted by Thio
In order to four wheel drift,here's what you have to do:
1. Don't countersteer. If you countersteer, then it's considered two wheel drift, like in Initial D.
2. Control the car by throttle/braking.
The advantage: makes car drift through corners at faster speeds compared to two wheel drift
The disadvantage: doesn't look as exciting as two wheel drift, but still looks exciting
You have the right Idea Thio, and your description here is pretty accurate but it applies more to FR cars then AWD. With AWD cars, very large drift angles can be achieved with little or no countersteer so this description of a 4-wheel drift cannot be used for AWD cars since a large drift angle means that the wheels have lost traction. In a 4 wheel drift all the wheels must be at the tires friction limit this will cause the car to drift slightly but not slide.
FR cars can also have large drift angles with no counter steer but they are usually in the form of a braking drift or in a car that understeers heavily (ex. GT40 or some AWD cars). So for AWD cars any drift where one or more tires has lost traction, meaning that it is sliding, is not really a 4-wheel drift.
Drifting slightly at the beginning or before the turn (but not a 4 wheel drift) with a car that understeers allows the drive to press the accelerator sooner, and it usually results in a faster exit speeds. Even though this is faster than normal grip driving and much faster than high angle drifting, it is not a true 4-wheel drift since there is some sliding going on.
Now, Im not sure if my previous stament is entirely true in real life since I have never seen a pro driver drift noticeably to gain speed in any way (not counting rally driving). This could be due to the fact that those cars are never set up in a way that drifting will actually help, since if they did it would wear out the tires considerably faster. So I think it is either a slight smudge in the GT3 physics engine, or can only be done with certain settings that no one would ever use in real life.
If anyone disagrees I am more than open to discuss it, since I will probably learn something new in the end, and i think we should all question what we read in forums before we take it as truth.
Edit: After reading some more of neon_dukes posts, I changed the words slip or slipping to slide or sliding since there seems to be a convention and a big difference.
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Well AWD drifting is alot different i agree. Rally racing drifts i wouldnt consider to be anything like street drifting considering most of thier races are on dirt, or snowy roads were loss of traction is easy.
I agree with you Trueno that you couldnt use settings from a game in real life. Only an idiot would take settings from a game and try to use them in real life because the physics of a game can only try to be realistic but not be real. Plus there is alot more factors in play with real life drifting... for instance turbo lag, I am buildnig an RX7 93 model back to life and of course it will be twin turbo, but in order to have good throttle response, which is nearly requierd in drift racing you have to have a low boost setting. Tire wear is differnt... i saw these guys do sway drifts for about a quarter of a mile and when they were done they hit the tires with a rod and chunks were coming off.
If you want to learn more about real life AWD drifting just search on the net. Im sure there is a web site that explains everything.
I agree with you Trueno that you couldnt use settings from a game in real life. Only an idiot would take settings from a game and try to use them in real life because the physics of a game can only try to be realistic but not be real. Plus there is alot more factors in play with real life drifting... for instance turbo lag, I am buildnig an RX7 93 model back to life and of course it will be twin turbo, but in order to have good throttle response, which is nearly requierd in drift racing you have to have a low boost setting. Tire wear is differnt... i saw these guys do sway drifts for about a quarter of a mile and when they were done they hit the tires with a rod and chunks were coming off.
If you want to learn more about real life AWD drifting just search on the net. Im sure there is a web site that explains everything.
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There was a thread about Four Wheel Drifting. It's in the GT3 forum with the title Four Wheel Drift
i'll post the link later
edit: here it is:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/t-17202.html
i'll post the link later
edit: here it is:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/t-17202.html
