Introduction and a question

[Binsey]

Hi

I did an introduction on the 'Introduction' page but it appears that not many read posts over there so thought I'd post here.

I hadn't played GT since the original back in 1997(?) but remember really enjoying the game. In the years since, I haven't been a major gamer (not having the time due to a young family) but recently my wife bought me a PS3. I'm not into FPS games at all. I love my sports games and driving games. First purchases were FIFA 10 and Grid both of which are very enjoyable. I then looked into racing wheels for the PS3 and without having a huge budget opted for the DFGT. Knowing the game was designed for Gran Turismo, I decided to look into when the new version was going to be released. With no fixed date, I decided to download GT5P. I'm glad I did. It's been great fun so far and the wheel has really enhanced the enjoyment of the game.

Which leads me to a couple of questions. Firstly, as a relative beginner, I completed all licenses on Standard Physics (Auto-Transmission). I now want to have a go with Pro Physics and Manual Transmission. Should I do both at once or one at a time? Also, any tips for a beginner taking the plunge with Pro Physics for the first time?

I love the game and the forum. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

 

[crazytortise]

Hi

I did an introduction on the 'Introduction' page but it appears that not many read posts over there so thought I'd post here.

I hadn't played GT since the original back in 1997(?) but remember really enjoying the game. In the years since, I haven't been a major gamer (not having the time due to a young family) but recently my wife bought me a PS3. I'm not into FPS games at all. I love my sports games and driving games. First purchases were FIFA 10 and Grid both of which are very enjoyable. I then looked into racing wheels for the PS3 and without having a huge budget opted for the DFGT. Knowing the game was designed for Gran Turismo, I decided to look into when the new version was going to be released. With no fixed date, I decided to download GT5P. I'm glad I did. It's been great fun so far and the wheel has really enhanced the enjoyment of the game.

Which leads me to a couple of questions. Firstly, as a relative beginner, I completed all licenses on Standard Physics (Auto-Transmission). I now want to have a go with Pro Physics and Manual Transmission. Should I do both at once or one at a time? Also, any tips for a beginner taking the plunge with Pro Physics for the first time?

I love the game and the forum. Thanks in advance for any feedback.

Pro physics and manual transmission makes it a whole new game. If you have the patience to learn it you will enjoy it a whole lot more. As it being your first time trying out pro, take it easy. Don't get out there and produce amazing laps. Pick one of the lower PP cars and get the feel for it. Suzuka is a good track because it has different corner styles. Try to be consistant and you will be rewarded with speed. Also be gentle on the peddles, smoothness is what is needed.

 

[Binsey]

Pro physics and manual transmission makes it a whole new game. If you have the patience to learn it you will enjoy it a whole lot more. As it being your first time trying out pro, take it easy. Don't get out there and produce amazing laps. Pick one of the lower PP cars and get the feel for it. Suzuka is a good track because it has different corner styles. Try to be consistant and you will be rewarded with speed. Also be gentle on the peddles, smoothness is what is needed.

Thanks. Are you saying that you can produce quicker lap-times with pro-physics?

 

[crazytortise]

Thanks. Are you saying that you can produce quicker lap-times with pro-physics?

I haven't played Standard physics so I'm not sure what the lap times are. But the feeling you get when you know you have done a killer lap on pro is what makes it great. It just feels very rewarding.

 

[Enigma]

Hi Binsey welcome to GTP

Standard physics produce better laptimes due to having more grip but proffesional is more rewarding when you get it right as CT has mentioned

I would recommend sticking with auto to begin with until you get used to driving the pro physics, you will find once you are competent on pro changing to the manual gears will be easy and benifit you greatly at least that was my experience anyway

I think doing the license tests on pro again is a good idea and excellent practice before racing online 👍

 

[HaylRayzor]

I'm going to recommend going the other way. Learn manual first. Then pro physics. It only takes about an hour to get used to manual trans. You will spend maaaaaaaany hours trying to master pro physics.

 

[crazytortise]

I'm going to recommend going the other way. Learn manual first. Then pro physics. It only takes about an hour to get used to manual trans. You will spand maaaaaaaany hours trying to master pro physics.

+1 👍 It's just listening to engine revs and shifting up or down.

 

[Ardius]

I'll also add that if you learn manual, you'll start to take corners more consistently if you make a mental note of what gear you should be in for each corner. 👍

 

[Hun200kmh]

I agree with manual first, pro physics second. Also, remember that even in pro physics you have the assists (SC / ABS / TCS) available. They will help you, especially ABS (leave it at 1, no need for more) and TCS.

 

[Enigma]

I still think you are better going straight to pro physics as spending more time on standard physics just to learn manual gears is a waste of time in my opinion

The quicker you start on pro the quicker you will learn

It will surprise you how easy it is to go from auto to manual (It surprised me) perhaps your better just going for pro with manual gears together and start as you mean to go on 👍

 

[Alan_G]

...your better just going for pro with manual gears together and start as you mean to go on 👍

Agree with that.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

My best advice is to try and switch to MT and Pro at once, and see if it's too much for you. If you're all over the place, then use AT for a while. Don't leave it for too long though, or you'll become complacent with AT. Redoing all of the races (including dealership ones) are also a great way to get accustomed to the new physics. You should aim to win every one (excluding time trials and missions), and only then you will be truly comfortable with Pro physics. Good Luck 👍.

Just to share, I have rerun all races at least 5 times since I've bought GT5P. Coming straight from GT1/2, my first race was in an Integra at Fuji. Feeling confident, I used MT and Pro physics. Boy, it was a disaster . I understeered and went of course multiple times (I should add that I'm a pretty good driver in GT1/2; I got all golds in both games ). So I notched down the difficulty, and created a transition regime for myself. It went like this:

1st Run-Thru: Standard physics, AT, race line ON, all aids off except ABS 1.
2nd Run-Thru: Professional physics, AT, race line ON, all aids off except ABS 1.
3rd Run-Thru: Professional physics, MT, race line ON, all aids off except ABS 1.
4th Run-Thru: Professional physics, MT, race line OFF, all aids off except ABS 1.

After this I bought myself a G25 wheel, and I have to start from scratch because it was a totally new and different experience.

5th Run-Thru: Standard physics, MT, race line OFF, all aids off except ABS 1.
6th Run-Thru: Professional physics, MT, race line OFF, all aids off except ABS 1.

Lately, I started to drive without ABS, so I redid all of the races again.

7th Run-Thru: Professional physics, MT, race line OFF, all aids off including ABS.

Hope that helps .

 

[Binsey]

My best advice is to try and switch to MT and Pro at once, and see if it's too much for you. If you're all over the place, then use AT for a while. Don't leave it for too long though, or you'll become complacent with AT. Redoing all of the races (including dealership ones) are also a great way to get accustomed to the new physics. You should aim to win every one (excluding time trials and missions), and only then you will be truly comfortable with Pro physics. Good Luck 👍.

Just to share, I have rerun all races at least 5 times since I've bought GT5P. Coming straight from GT1/2, my first race was in an Integra at Fuji. Feeling confident, I used MT and Pro physics. Boy, it was a disaster . I understeered and went of course multiple times (I should add that I'm a pretty good driver in GT1/2; I got all golds in both games ). So I notched down the difficulty, and created a transition regime for myself. It went like this:

1st Run-Thru: Standard physics, AT, race line ON, all aids off except ABS 1.
2nd Run-Thru: Professional physics, AT, race line ON, all aids off except ABS 1.
3rd Run-Thru: Professional physics, MT, race line ON, all aids off except ABS 1.
4th Run-Thru: Professional physics, MT, race line OFF, all aids off except ABS 1.

After this I bought myself a G25 wheel, and I have to start from scratch because it was a totally new and different experience.

5th Run-Thru: Standard physics, MT, race line OFF, all aids off except ABS 1.
6th Run-Thru: Professional physics, MT, race line OFF, all aids off except ABS 1.

Lately, I started to drive without ABS, so I redid all of the races again.

7th Run-Thru: Professional physics, MT, race line OFF, all aids off including ABS.

Hope that helps .

Wow... thanks for that....you really must love the game!

 

[Binsey]

I agree with manual first, pro physics second. Also, remember that even in pro physics you have the assists (SC / ABS / TCS) available. They will help you, especially ABS (leave it at 1, no need for more) and TCS.

Great. Any advice or guidance as to how much I should be using the assists?

 

[HN7]

Great. Any advice or guidance as to how much I should be using the assists?

Since you're playing with a wheel, the ideal would be all assist off. There's no shame in using TC until you learn better throttle control though (some will disagree with me bout this for sure ), I'd suggest run a few laps with TC on, then turn them down 2 unit every few laps to see. SC always off, ABS is default at 1 so unless you have heavy foot syndrome, turn it off. Hope this helps.

 

[Sohvakettu]

I remember i turned driving aids off in GT4 when i noticed that something kept on cutting my rpms down while turning...

 

[Binsey]

Thanks guys. Appreciate the advice.

 

[raceur]

You should go to Pro, turn all aids off including the line, and manual gears.

The first many laps will be a complete nightmare and you will be nowhere near your level previously. However, take the view that you should be driving smoothly, hitting apexes every time, and not concerned about speed. Then, very slowly, build up the pace. I think the problem with most people on a race game is they try and drive flat out first time, based on observations of friends. In fact one friend had the very best advice:

"Drive GT exactly as you would if it was a real car on a real track, not a game".

After a while you'll be improving on your laptimes and it's so much more rewarding. It'll take time, but it's worth it.

 

[DGiant2000]

You should go to Pro, turn all aids off including the line, and manual gears.

The first many laps will be a complete nightmare and you will be nowhere near your level previously. However, take the view that you should be driving smoothly, hitting apexes every time, and not concerned about speed. Then, very slowly, build up the pace. I think the problem with most people on a race game is they try and drive flat out first time, based on observations of friends. In fact one friend had the very best advice:

"Drive GT exactly as you would if it was a real car on a real track, not a game".

After a while you'll be improving on your laptimes and it's so much more rewarding. It'll take time, but it's worth it.

Totally agree, its frustrating at first but it'll be worth it in the long time. Doing it step by step, in my opinion, means you have to keep re-learning over and over again. Take the plunge, stick with it (because it will be frustrating) but in the end you'll find it a much more rewarding, and immersive, experience.

Andy