Is holden basicall vauxhall?

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Smiggi1991
I have noticed that there are 3 car companies that make just about the same cars or similar.these are....
Vauxhall
Holden
Opel
I have a Holden vehicle on gt5 which is spit and dab of a vauxhall monaro so are they sister companies like Citroën and Peugeot?
 
Both companies are owned by General Motors.

Sort of like the Volkwagen Group. The companies share parts. IIRC, the V10 in the R8 and S8 is from Lamborghini.
 
All are GM divisions but Holden is a bit different because it makes cars that neither Vauxhall or Opel make.
 
Ok thanks for the replies so what's the deal with Holden? I have a Holden car that is double of a monaro.maybe they bought the chassis blueprint from vauxhall or something?
 
Smiggi1991
Ok thanks for the replies so what's the deal with Holden? I have a Holden car that is double of a monaro.maybe they bought the chassis blueprint from vauxhall or something?
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They areowned by the same company. They share some designs and/or parts with eachother.
 
Holden is probably more independent then any of the others because of its location though and the type of clientele that it deals with.
 
Dan Hill
Aren't Monaros built in Australia then exported to Britain as Vauxhall VXRs.
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Yes, designed and built in Australia, exported to the UK. Just like the new VXR8 and the chassis under the new 2010 Camaro (which shares a platform with the VXR8 or Commodore architecture).
 
Blitz24
All are GM divisions but Holden is a bit different because it makes cars that neither Vauxhall or Opel make.
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Not strictly true, but mostly true.

Vauxhall, Opel and Holden are companies in their own right, each is owned by General Motors.

Vauxhall and Opel used to release the same models with different names (i.e. Astra/Kadett, Cavalier/Vectra). A few years ago the model names were combined across both brands.

Holdens normally stand alone but there are a few (very few) cross-brand exceptions like the Monaro 'Widowmaker' that was mentioned earlier.
 
Smiggi1991
But in England there is vauxhall vectra and vauxhall cavalier mate
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Read my post again.

The Vauxhall Cavalier was sold by Opel as the Vectra.

When the brands merged their naming strategies some models kept the Opel name and some kept the Vauxhall name.

The Vauxhall Cavalier became the Vauxhall Vectra.

This applied to new cars, they didn't visit everyone's house with a pot of glue and a bag of badges...
 
Vauxhall, Opel , Holden ; 3 different companies owned by one parent group, GM.

1ST UP, Opel. Opel is a German brand that makes cars that are sold throughout Europe ranging from the Corsa to the Vectra.

2ND, Vauxhall is a classic old British brand. By old, i mean that Vauxhall - in their own right- have not built a unique and individual model since 1922 (iirc). All Vauxhalls are in essence badge engineered Opels or other cars bought in from other GM brands ; step forward the Holden Monaro.

3RD, Holden. A classic Australian brand with limited success beyond the Australian border. The Holden Monaro was a joint excercise with Pontiac who named their version simply 'GTO' and was practicaly identical apart from such corperate identity things as grilles, wheels and badging.

When Vauxhall wanted something to lift their dull image they did the only thing they know and re-badged a Holden, claiming all the glory along the way. Whenever i see a Monaro or the newer VXR8's just the sight of the Vauxhall badge does my head in - it's a Holden, end of story. :)
 
Smiggi1991
But in England there is vauxhall vectra and vauxhall cavalier mate
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The Vauxhall Cavalier was originally based on the Opel Ascona, but had a different front end. The Opel Vectra replaced the Ascona and so the next Vauxhall Cavalier was actually a rebadged Vectra. In 1995 the Vectra B was launched and they dropped the Cavalier name. The Vectra has since been replaced by the Insignia.

Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_Vectra

XPower are you forgeting the VX220? While it was built by Lotus it is basically a new car that is a Vauxhall/Opel not an Lotus Elise.
 
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XPOWER180
When Vauxhall wanted something to lift their dull image they did the only thing they know and re-badged a Holden, claiming all the glory along the way. Whenever i see a Monaro or the newer VXR8's just the sight of the Vauxhall badge does my head in - it's a Holden, end of story. :)
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Quite right... and it was also produced in LHD in the UK for sale in the US as the Pontiac GTO.

NFSCARBON1
The Vauxhall Cavalier was originally based on the Opel Ascona, but had a different front end. The Opel Vectra replaced the Ascona and so the next Vauxhall Cavalier was actually a rebadged Vectra. In 1995 the Vectra B was launched and they dropped the Cavalier name. The Vectra has since been replaced by the Insignia.

Link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_Vectra
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Ah, the Ascona. I'd forgotten about that part of the Cavalier history. The Ascona was always much better looking but if you weren't careful your brother-in-law would strip down the gearbox on your new draining board leaving a large dent that got you into a lot of trouble.

That's what happened to me, anyway.
 
The Holden Commodore is also sold in the US, and used as one of the police cars, the chassis I am led to belive is all designed and developed here in OZ as are the 6 cyl engines, the v8's are the Chev LS series.
so all the kids over here pull off there Holden badges and put on Chevy badges to replace them.
There have been a few Gm world cars sold over here, astra, vectra and the classic gemini was the same the Opel Kadette and Chevette.
 
XPOWER180
3RD, Holden. A classic Australian brand with limited success beyond the Australian border. The Holden Monaro was a joint excercise with Pontiac who named their version simply 'GTO' and was practicaly identical apart from such corperate identity things as grilles, wheels and badging.

When Vauxhall wanted something to lift their dull image they did the only thing they know and re-badged a Holden, claiming all the glory along the way. Whenever i see a Monaro or the newer VXR8's just the sight of the Vauxhall badge does my head in - it's a Holden, end of story. :)
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The bold statement is incorrect, the monaro was totally an australian design and idea based on the VT commodore coupe concept car which was unveiled to the public at one of our motorshows it was instantly dubbed the new monaro by the public although that was not the name of the car, the car was an after hours secret project that not even the holden execs knew about until almost the last minute. The car was put into production 2 years later due to overwhelming public demand and The head of GM at the time Bob Lutz took allot of interest in the vehicle on a trip to Australia and shortly after that the decision was made by Lutz to rebadge the car as the GTO for sale in the U.S.

The Monaro name was revived as we have not had a Monaro model since 1979 and none ever based on the commodore platform. Holden and their Zeta rear wheel drive platform are acknowledged as the world centre for rear wheel drive excellence within all GM brands.

The original hand built VT Commodore coupe concept car
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TenEightyOne
The Ascona was always much better looking
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So true. We had a first-gen Cavalier at one point when I was a kid, a friend's dad had an Ascona. Opel seemed so exotic then... </wistful>

Not to mention the travesty that was the Cavalier fastback, an uglified 3-door Manta. And the Royale :ill:
 

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