Judge orders RIAA to justify $750 per song fine for piracy

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That's a good judge, not because he's supporting pirated music because he isn't. But because he's not supporting large companies and corporations extorting the little people.
 
It's legal to download a song for free. without permission.
It's legal to have it posted, in your computer, where other people can download it, for free, without permission.
It only becomes piracy if you (the one handing it out), turn a profit.

that's my knowledge, if anybody know for certain otherwise, please let me know.
 
It's legal to download a song for free. without permission.
It's legal to have it posted, in your computer, where other people can download it, for free, without permission.
It only becomes piracy if you (the one handing it out), turn a profit.

that's my knowledge, if anybody know for certain otherwise, please let me know.

It is illegal to upload copyrighted material, but you can download songs legally.
 
I'm still enraged at the RIAA for threatening to shut down various guitar tab websites. They should open their eyes and realise that many of the choices they make are hurting their own big fat wallets. They couldn't care less about the musicians who actually make them money.
 
I believe it is legal to download a song for free from a P2P source or wherever provided you only listen to it once, I think by law that is classed as a preview. but as soon as you listen to it a second time it becomes piracy. If you get pulled for downloading music they can't touch you if you haven't listened to any of it more than once. They can if you have.
 
For the most part, the criminal law is only used for commercial copyright infringement with one exception, and an offence is committed when, knowing or reasonably suspecting that the files are illegal copies, and without the permission of the copyright owner, a person:

- makes unauthorised copies e.g. burning music files or films on to CD-Rs or DVD-Rs;

- distributes, sells or hires out unauthorised copies of CDs, VCDs and DVDs;
on a larger scale, distributes unauthorised copies as a commercial enterprise on the internet;


- possesses unauthorised copies with a view to distributing, selling or hiring these to other people;

- while not dealing commercially, distributes unauthorised copies of software packages, books, music, games, and films on such a scale as to have a measurable impact on the copyright owner's business.

- stealing someone else's original copy work and claiming you have made it. (This is known as plagiarism and is completely different than copyright infringement, but laws concerning it come under the section of copyright law in some countries)

The penalties for these "copyright infringement" offences depend on the seriousness of the offences:

- before a magistrates' Court, the penalties for distributing unauthorised files are a maximum fine of £5,000 ($9,202) and/or six months imprisonment;

- in the Crown Court, the penalties for distributing unauthorised files are an unlimited fine and/or up to 10 years imprisonment
 
It's legal to download a song for free. without permission.
It's legal to have it posted, in your computer, where other people can download it, for free, without permission.
It only becomes piracy if you (the one handing it out), turn a profit.

that's my knowledge, if anybody know for certain otherwise, please let me know.

I know for certain that this is not the case. It is illegal to download copyrighted material that you have not paid for.


It is illegal to upload copyrighted material, but you can download songs legally.

Not in the US.

I believe it is legal to download a song for free from a P2P source or wherever provided you only listen to it once, I think by law that is classed as a preview. but as soon as you listen to it a second time it becomes piracy. If you get pulled for downloading music they can't touch you if you haven't listened to any of it more than once. They can if you have.

Not in the US.
 
I doubt your statements danoff, as many US based sites who provide people with download links for all the latest music etc all state that after having opened the file once they must delete it thereafter for it to remain legal.
 
:lol: So how much do I owe them? Um.... that comes out to $75,000 total!

Wait, I didn't listen to any of them more then once.

Seriously, these people should go to any given public school. They'll get enough money to make them all millionares, with a 3-acre mansion, Bugatti Veyron, private jet, Segway HT, PS3, XBox360, Wii, Maybach 62S, and a lifetime supply of Starbucks coffee each.

Seriously...
 
I doubt your statements danoff, as many US based sites who provide people with download links for all the latest music etc all state that after having opened the file once they must delete it thereafter for it to remain legal.

Actually, the programs all remain mostly legal because they offer the service of sharing, which is legal. The second someone downloads the song without permission of the author, then the user has violated the crime, not the program.
 
I'm glad to hear that someone has the reasoning to question the RIAA. Their actions have been completely out of hand, and combine them with those folks who do things with the movies (I forget the name), it just makes me sick.

...Sure, pirating music is indeed illegal, and doing it for a profit is wrong. But when you have artists who are attempting to channel work to people, why should the RIAA get in the way of them doing so?

So, lets say there is a particular band that doesn't have its music played in America, much less sold in most stores here. Being that one's only experience with the music is that they have heard over the BBC broadcasts on the internet, and they may only like one or two songs, does it make any sense whatsoever for that person to pay nearly $40 to have that band's CD shipped to America?

...No, they are more likely to find it on the internet, download, and then play. Maybe they share with other people, get them hooked, people make phone calls, and then the band tours in America...

I dunno, I'm rambling here...
 
where were these idiots when VCR's, casettes, 8Traks recorders, even home record cutting equipment was used? nowhere, because the quality went down when transfering, then.

why don't they just make it that EVERYTHING'S copyrighted forever and get it over with?!

those of us who draw and write also have copyright rights, and tyhat stuff gets stolen ALL the time. I know an art community where about 50% of the artists walked away with no reason when ONE guy swiped thousands of pictures, and wiped the owner's copyrights off, substituting his own.
 
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