Just got my PS3

[JakeCourtney]

Well,

My PS3 finally came in the other day and the first thing I did was throw in the copy of GT5P that I bought off of ebay.

Better jumping into the game I went in and setup the controller to be some what exactly the way I have it when I play Forza.

I have to say I don't really like the PS3 controller at all. I've got the gas and break set as the triggers and it seems I have no control. It's either half, or fully depressed. I didn't have a problem driving the slower cars, but now I've got a Z06 and it's impossible to drive with the controller.

Now is there something I should be doing to make the game playable on the controller? or should I just stop playing and wait until my Fanatec Porsche Turbo S wheel comes in some time at the end of November?

I've been using all assists off and professional physics. I'm starting to feel you really can't get much out of this game with a controller.

Anyway, the physics don't seem to bother me when I'm in the cockpit view and the graphics and tracks are nice.

I'm still using Spec II update by the way as I haven't downloaded the other yet.

This is only my second day playing and I'm up to A class races. Just can't seem to find any throttle control at all with the controller.

 

[NLxAROSA]

The controller can be very precise IMO. I used it exclusively before I got the G25. The game appears to be helping a bit regardless of whether you have assists on or off. Still, I advise you to get the SpecIII update. It changes the physics and also the way the controller handles.

 

[Vince_Fiero]

I'm up to A7 with the controller (passed all events with the G25). Just believe both could be interesting to master. (A levels Pro without assists) Choice of car is important when inexperienced.

It does seem that using standard physics and assists on in the beginning with the controller helps on getting used to controlling the car on a certain track then gradually turn it off.

To enhance throttle control, I tend to use pulses. If the car starts slipping, stop till car is in the right direction, pulse to stabilize again, next time in that turn try more time between the pulses.

Main issue I have with the controller is less practice, so less consistency and make more stupid mistakes.
I'm also more fighting with braking and steering at the same time, find the co-ordination less natural then with feet and steering wheel.

 

[Jack]

First, I would say update to Spec 3 as soon as you can. This physics are different so anything you learn, you need to then adjust again.

Try using the analog sticks. I know many use the triggers when driving with the controller and some have talked about the throttle and brakes being given in bursts as you say. I find I have more control using the sticks to modulate the throttle and brakes.

Another thing I will add is start with an easier chioce of car. Z06 is not the most friendly to start with

 

[Bogie 19th]

Jake, congrats on your new console. You will really enjoy it. Be sure to check out some Blu-ray movie love.

As for the controller....the PS3 controller not only sucks for GT5p, but it sucks in general IMO. I am struggling with it like you are. I need to get a wheel for my PS3 at some point. I will probably get one when/if GT5 comes out. I will look to getting a used G25 by then.

 

[JakeCourtney]

Well, I spent a small fortune on the Fanatec wheel and pedal set, but they have had so many delays that it's going to be coming on a slow boat from China and then it has to wait in customs before finally getting shipped out. So I'm not even expecting to see that thing until December.

It's killing me to play GT5P and Forza 3 demo without a wheel. It's just so much harder to be smooth with the sticks.

 

[crazytortise]

Practice, practice, practice. Rome wasnt built in a day so you cant expect to break records on any tracks if you have only had the PS3 for a few days. We learn to crawl before we walk so learn consistancy before speed

If you practice it will come

 

[Lain]

First, I would say update to Spec 3 as soon as you can. This physics are different so anything you learn, you need to then adjust again.

Try using the analog sticks. I know many use the triggers when driving with the controller and some have talked about the throttle and brakes being given in bursts as you say. I find I have more control using the sticks to modulate the throttle and brakes.

Another thing I will add is start with an easier chioce of car. Z06 is not the most friendly to start with

Yeah, I recommend using the right analog stick for gas/brake. Much more control. 👍

 

[JakeCourtney]

Well, I'm throwing in the towel. I just can't use the PS3 controller for this game. It just sucks. I'm not going to use the right stick for braking and gas either as that just feels entirely more wrong, besides how can you brake and give it gas at the same time?

Anyway, I'm at the last three A races and it's impossible for me to drive the Ferrari 430 with all assists off and professional with the controller. I guess it'll have to wait until I get a wheel in December before getting anymore use.

 

[Boffin]

OMG. I hate to say it, but you can't be almost perfect, so you're throwing in the towel?

I'm mediocre in the TT (some would say I'm faster when racing online) but I do it for the enjoyment - and the thrill that I'm in the top 100 for 90% of car/track combos I try.

Let me ask you - Given your current experience, where do you think you should come in a TT ranking situation? If you think top 20, or 30 even, you are seriously underestimating the GTP community. If you can't get online post me a time with...say...a Mazda RX8 at Fuji GP, and I'll tell you if you are on the right track for someone who's played for 4 days.

But seriously....4 days and your throwing in the towel? That it? And you joined a GT forum? 4 days?

Are you using the standard or simulation physics? The sim physics can be a little hard to get to grips with. Unlike GT4, the cars will slide if you stab the throttle and such. Smoothness is the key, and remember, I want to see a lap time to see if your towel throwing is justified.

 

[JakeCourtney]

OMG. I hate to say it, but you can't be almost perfect, so you're throwing in the towel?

I'm mediocre in the TT (some would say I'm faster when racing online) but I do it for the enjoyment - and the thrill that I'm in the top 100 for 90% of car/track combos I try.

Let me ask you - Given your current experience, where do you think you should come in a TT ranking situation? If you think top 20, or 30 even, you are seriously underestimating the GTP community. If you can't get online post me a time with...say...a Mazda RX8 at Fuji GP, and I'll tell you if you are on the right track for someone who's played for 4 days.

But seriously....4 days and your throwing in the towel? That it? And you joined a GT forum? 4 days?

Are you using the standard or simulation physics? The sim physics can be a little hard to get to grips with. Unlike GT4, the cars will slide if you stab the throttle and such. Smoothness is the key, and remember, I want to see a lap time to see if your towel throwing is justified.

No assists, Simulation physics. I've got the brake as left trigger, and the gas as the right trigger. The problem is that I can't get any control with the triggers at all. I mean it feels like I either accelerate 100%, 50%, or 0%.

I know what I should be doing, but I can't cause the controller doesn't have enough feel. I guess I'm just used to being able to easily control the throttle with the triggers on the 360 controller.

I really just wish my Fanatec wheel should get here this month as I can't use this controller.

I'm not even doing time trials at the moment as there is no way I'd rank high at all with my inability to use this controller effectively. I just can't do those A events with the 430. I mean I can get 4th, but I can't get any closer cause if I push any harder I'll lose control.

 

[Boffin]

Please..pleeeeaaassse use the sticks.

Triggers did nothing for no-one except the causal racers who liked GTA, so they thought they'd have something more car orientated.

 

[DGiant2000]

No assists, Simulation physics. I've got the brake as left trigger, and the gas as the right trigger. The problem is that I can't get any control with the triggers at all. I mean it feels like I either accelerate 100%, 50%, or 0%.

I know what I should be doing, but I can't cause the controller doesn't have enough feel. I guess I'm just used to being able to easily control the throttle with the triggers on the 360 controller.

I really just wish my Fanatec wheel should get here this month as I can't use this controller.

I'm not even doing time trials at the moment as there is no way I'd rank high at all with my inability to use this controller effectively. I just can't do those A events with the 430. I mean I can get 4th, but I can't get any closer cause if I push any harder I'll lose control.

I use DS3 and the triggers, and it has taken me 6 months to get a reasonable amount of throttle/brake control with these but it is possible. That 6 months however has been many, many hours of practise both online, in time trials and the WRS. This is not an easy game, especially with the pad, but it is possible and the learning curve is very steep. Don't give up, keep going, it took me a long time to beat that a class 430 event but you will get there in the end.

 

[crazytortise]

No assists, Simulation physics. I've got the brake as left trigger, and the gas as the right trigger. The problem is that I can't get any control with the triggers at all. I mean it feels like I either accelerate 100%, 50%, or 0%.

I know what I should be doing, but I can't cause the controller doesn't have enough feel. I guess I'm just used to being able to easily control the throttle with the triggers on the 360 controller.

I really just wish my Fanatec wheel should get here this month as I can't use this controller.

I'm not even doing time trials at the moment as there is no way I'd rank high at all with my inability to use this controller effectively. I just can't do those A events with the 430. I mean I can get 4th, but I can't get any closer cause if I push any harder I'll lose control.

How do you know what you should be doing if you have only had the game for 4 days?? Like i said before, Rome wasnt built in a day. Dont expect to be perfect after 4 days. It takes time, alot of time

 

[Jack]

Well, I'm throwing in the towel. I just can't use the PS3 controller for this game. It just sucks. I'm not going to use the right stick for braking and gas either as that just feels entirely more wrong, besides how can you brake and give it gas at the same time?

Anyway, I'm at the last three A races and it's impossible for me to drive the Ferrari 430 with all assists off and professional with the controller. I guess it'll have to wait until I get a wheel in December before getting anymore use.

So you are giving up because youre not good at it? Keep at it. Its a hard game. And actually you shouldnt really use the brake and gas at the same time (left foot braking). You can use it to help you control wheelspin but you can modulate the throttle for that, and I dont think many use left foot braking for that in GT.

The most common thing its used for in GT is to reduce understeer and maybe small adjustments in corners.

Although its hard to do with the SixAxis, it doesnt need to be done. Here are 2 videos below. TimeAttack, who uses the buttons (cross and square). Hes proberly the best SixAxis racer there was until he switched to a wheel and a crappy racer who goes by the name of GTP_JackStanley . He uses the sticks. Watch their imputs 👍

 

[Seismica]

This game is very difficult. I recommend using the Mitsubishi Evo X (not tuned). That way, throttle control doesn't worry you much, as the car gives so much traction you can have your foot down as much as you like and it will not spin (unless you set it up for drifting).

 

[d3br34k5]

Those are some seriously fast lap times ^^

GT5p is very difficult, especially with a controller. Like Jack mentioned above, left-foot braking isn't good practice; using the right analog stick for gas/brake is actually a really good idea. That's how I always set the controls for Gran Turismo games in the past, before the advent of analog trigger buttons.

I honestly prefer the DS3 controller above all other console controllers, but the Xbox360's trigger buttons are much much MUCH easier to use and far more precise than the L2/R2 triggers on the DS3.

 

[otago]

When you play Forza with X360 controller you have a lot of help, for example you can't turn wheels all the way off in turn with controller, they are locked at some angle to help you play.

GT5 Prologue at higher rank events is punishing and at the same time is far off in terms of real driving physics. Not too much fan, it's kinda strange try hard again and again when even racing lines almost don't matter. You are like fighting with glitches, not with real thing

My point of view on GT5 - great fun driving with wheel while not pushing the car too hard. PS3 controller is fine to play, just control throttle with stick, not trigger

 

[Masi_23]

How bout putting up an extra $40 for a used Logitech DFP? There are tons on eBay. Sell it when your fanatec comes.

 

[Seismica]

For the past few days i have been playing other racing games and then i returned to GT5P and i forgot how hard it is!

You have to be VERY smooth with the steering and be precise with the throttle. Everytime i go on the game, it takes me about 30-40 minutes of gameplay just to get in the rhythm of the game again.

The racing lines do matter, but i think if you don't get your throttle response right, you get huge understeer or oversteer. In a real car do you not have to find the 'sweet spot'? Quite similar really, although quite hard to achieve with a sixaxis in the higher powered cars.

Those vids on the BMW 135, excellent though those lap times are (I couldn't get lap times like those...), less powerful cars like that are easy with the controller, try using a Ford GT and be as smooth as that with a Sixaxis. That thing is very unforgiving, even on standard physics.

 

[Vince_Fiero]

left-foot braking isn't good practice

I read the next article a while ago: http://ps3.kombo.com/article.php?artid=6055

A Formula Mazda driver that tested GT5p with the Elise and states:

Therefore, when you step on the throttle in a mid-engine car, you force the majority of the car's weight onto the rear tires, generating grip. Conversely, if you lift off the throttle, you force the weight of the car onto the front tires, losing traction in the rear. For this reason, you almost always have to be on-throttle before you even enter a turn (especially in fast corners) for the car to maintain maximum grip and control. In a turn, "lifting-off" will cause the car to spin; simple as that.

So if you have to be on throttle before the turn, it seems logical to me your are doing left foot braking for small corrections while still on the throttle.

I'm not using it a lot for the moment, but have used it on the 1-2 combination on Suzuka and do believe it helps to keep the car "grippy" at high speeds.

Despite this, there are people out there that can really drive fast with the Sintaxis, I'm from time to time training with it and do not really miss the breaking and throttle at the same time.
Before you take the time to master the Sintaxis, it is not the best idea to criticize it. I do have the impression it has some advantages in steering more quickly, which can be an advantage on some tracks.

P.S.: I bought GT5p with a G25 and will never let a steering wheel go, but mainly because for me the experience is better. I found where to set the FFB recently (in front of the steering wheel configurations) and love the Pro, FFB 10 settings. Still need to experiment with this too.

 

[CodeRedR51]

The controller can be very precise IMO.

+1.

I use the Sixaxis currently, saving my pennies for a G25 or G27 when GT5 comes out. I have the gas/brake set as the triggers as well, and I find that there is definitely an on/off 'wall', but you get used to it. I can be very smooth with the controller, and some people on here can attest to my driving skills while using it. But I've been using a controller for years...

 

[Seismica]

Despite this, there are people out there that can really drive fast with the Sintaxis, I'm from time to time training with it and do not really miss the breaking and throttle at the same time.
Before you take the time to master the Sintaxis, it is not the best idea to criticize it. I do have the impression it has some advantages in steering more quickly, which can be an advantage on some tracks.

Nah i still think a smooth line is more to your advantage.

On Eiger i suppose it would help on those tight hairpins, but on Fuji/Suzuka/HSR, i tend to only move my analogue stick about halfway during turns (Thats with a turning angle of 40 degrees). I find if i used a wheel it would be much the same, but it would be a lot easier to regulate the throttle, which is my main critiscism of the Sixaxis. I made to switch to using the analogue stick when GTA San Andreas came out (it didn't allow d-pad steering) and i have never switched back since.

I suppose if i started using the right analogue stick for the throttle and brakes i would improve even further. But with practice, a G25 wheel will enable you to be faster. Although if you have been using the Sony controller for years like i have, it will take a long time to adjust. I'm not looking forward to learning to drive ingame again.

 

[otago]

A Formula Mazda driver that tested GT5p with the Elise and states:

I surprised this guy didn't tell you need steer left in the left turn and steer right in the right turn. Hidden knowledge of real race pro driving

So part of the weight transfer to rear axe when you step on throttle? Really? LOL