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So there are two ways: Now you start an endu race and do your first stint and then pause the game for say 8 hours (and leave ps3 on) so you can sleep and then do another 3 hour stint before again pausing the game again and leaving the ps3 on. Essentially endu racing is about doing that now. With save feature you just save the ps3 and turn it off when you nrmally would just leave it paused.

The only difference I see is that saving allows people to turn off the their ps3. And it also works as a protector against power outages.

But then again who knows how pd decides to implement the save feature. It might be something really sucky so I have really really low expectations... Like having just 3 saves per 24h race. Which wouldn't change anything!
 
Yeah, but look at the situation. Can the A.I really be any more intelligent to what the PS3 can calculate in terms of GT's scale? How would adding more A-spec events work? Would it decrease the game completion percentage, or would it just be there just for bonus.

I'm just saying that they're not completely ignoring it like many people think they are. It's most likely they have put it into consideration. Whether its because it isn't possible with the current layout/system/situation... we'll never know the reason why, but it's really impossible for any human from a business standpoint to go to a fan site, see what people want and ignoring it. At least that's what I think.

Most likely, the most wanted features the fans want, PD are considering it already.

You could be right. It seems to me that the AI coding needs an overhaul in order to change how opposition cars react to you and each other to make them more competitive. And, needless to say, they need to fix the collision sounds. Such a simple fix would make the game that much more bearable.

As for the A-spec thing, I never thought of it like that. Not that it really matters though, if they improved the AI I would be happy just doing arcade races, although its not the same when there is no reward. Maybe if there was an event generator, you could create races which offered credit rewards but did not affect the completion percentage.

That way you would be killing 2 birds with 1 stone by having fun racing, and earning credits to buy more cars. It's a win win situation 👍
 
Yeah, but look at the situation. Can the A.I really be any more intelligent to what the PS3 can calculate in terms of GT's scale? How would adding more A-spec events work? Would it decrease the game completion percentage, or would it just be there just for bonus.

I generally sympathize with PD on the AI issue, since it's hard to get AI right. However, they still force people to deal with the AI and they obviously don't prioritize the AI (Premium models, one of the worst things to happen to GT).

For all the hype companies made over next gen systems, the biggest factor of single player for a lot of games, the AI, was left untouched. It because of that that I sometimes wonder if the PS3 is really that much better than the PS2, etc. Graphics hardly matter.
 
I generally sympathize with PD on the AI issue, since it's hard to get AI right. However, they still force people to deal with the AI and they obviously don't prioritize the AI (Premium models, one of the worst things to happen to GT).

For all the hype companies made over next gen systems, the biggest factor of single player for a lot of games, the AI, was left untouched. It because of that that I sometimes wonder if the PS3 is really that much better than the PS2, etc. Graphics hardly matter.

I'm not sure that the PS3 system is the limiting factor, I just think PD need to invest some serious time into the AI coding and testing to make sure it is spot on. I have no doubt that it is a very complicated task, but I would happily ditch half of the content in GT5 for an "intelligent" AI system.

AI (along with physics) should be the number 1 priority for any racing game
 
Kaz is a bird eh? Joking.

Finally, I can complete the 9 hours of Tsukuba without going on a rampage. Soon...
 
Come on Devedander, you're making yourself look bad with that extreme black and whiteness, which people can read in that post.

So did you have a rebuttal or contradiction to offer up?

You're still picking fights with people around here Dev? I guess it would be outside of your personality to stay quiet, eh? ;)

Some things never change huh? :D

Hey where you been? You dissapeared off the face of the GTP for a while there...
 
Hope the endurance race save thing is true - i might actually be able to attempt them then. :)

And they do need to bring back saving in championship events.

I was two races into one last night and ended up falling asleep for a couple hours and when i woke i had to turn it off and go to bed because work was only a few hours away. So yeah - save feature badly needed.
 
Sorry but you are wrong... no one, in their right mind, would drive that long non-stop, in virtual or real life racing. I really can't believe this is being debated because their is NO debate about it in real life racing. I'll say this again for the learning impaired, "IN REAL LIFE, NO ONE DRIVER DRIVES FOR 24 HOURS".
Really? Not even Edward Hall?

Hall finished 8th overall in a field of 60 that year after driving 24 hours straight at LeMans
I did not mean that it has never happened. Of course, everyone knows that is has been done but it is not done in modern day racing.
I don't disagree that a save feature would be a good addition to the game. I just think it's nonsense that people are justifying it by saying that nobody in the history of the world has ever raced 24 hours straight, IVL or IRL. It's a completely invalid argument.
 
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I don't disagree that a save feature would be a good addition to the game. I just think it's nonsense that people are justifying it by saying that nobody in the history of the world has ever raced 24 hours straight, IVL or IRL. It's a completely invalid argument.

It's not a common occurrence, that is an indisputable fact, regardless if whomever wants to scour the interwebs for "evidence".
 
I don't disagree that a save feature would be a good addition to the game. I just think it's nonsense that people are justifying it by saying that nobody in the history of the world has ever raced 24 hours straight, IVL or IRL. It's a completely invalid argument.

If you need to drive 24h straight, nobody will stop you. But I will not and I am thankfull for the saving option.
 
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The main reason why I need the save option is because I'm not the only person who wants to use the PS3 in my house. There is no way I could get away with doing the 24h endu's atm, my housemates would kill me, "I want to play COD", "I need to kill some people on COD", "I miss COD", "stop saying I have an addiction to COD" is all I hear from them. You know the kind of people....

so please, for the sake of my housemates' problems, give me the save function! ha!
 
In reality no racing driver drives for 24 hours non stop. There are 2 ways you could do this...

Imagine handing the wheel over to your PSN friends to help for a few hours, then when he got tired, pass it on to the next friend and so on. So how would this work?

Pit in, save game and your friend would pick up where you left off on your community page... Good idea or Daft?

If thats a crap idea, then Bob must intervene while you go to bed.
Either of those 2 ideas are better than you saving the game then going back a week later, just doesn't seem realistic IMO
 
You're still picking fights with people around here Dev? I guess it would be outside of your personality to stay quiet, eh? ;)
Eh, just let him have his say and move along. No need to give him cause to add any more to his flamebait. Of course, the fact that he's completely wrong is another matter. ;)

It's because of all the complaining about Special Events being too hard that PD lifted the restrictions. With people like Deve, PD can do nothing right, and he changes his tune to "PD listens to the kids too much," "PD won't listen to anyone" to suit his posts.

I generally sympathize with PD on the AI issue, since it's hard to get AI right. However, they still force people to deal with the AI and they obviously don't prioritize the AI (Premium models, one of the worst things to happen to GT).

For all the hype companies made over next gen systems, the biggest factor of single player for a lot of games, the AI, was left untouched. It because of that that I sometimes wonder if the PS3 is really that much better than the PS2, etc. Graphics hardly matter.
Frankly, I haven't been too impressed with any game's A.I. Well, except the bots in Forza 1. They did some absolutely fiendish things to me that had me blinking.

But racers, shooters, wargames... you name it, what game is really that good on console or PC either one? The problem is that making lifelike A.I. is a big a development hassle as the rest of the game itself. Can you justify possibly doubling the development budget of a game to have slightly more humanlike bot behavior? No sensible developer would. Now, it would be nice if some university or software house would develop a nice small set of easily executable routines which would encapsulate lifelike behavior, but that day is yet to come.

Honestly, the only thing bad about GT5's bots is that they brake too hard for turns. If PD would fix that, they would match every other racer's cruise missiles well.
 
Sitting in your living room, on your couch, while driving with a plastic wheel, and staring at a moving picture on a TV screen isn't realistic either.

GT needs in race saves for those of us with a life. I'd never have the time to do the 24 hour races straight through, never mind the 4 hour races. With a save function I could do them, it might take two weeks but I could do them.

And if your e-manhood needs boosting then PD could add a trophy or something for people who do the race without saving.
 
I find it almost intolerable how people tend to be police, judge, and jail guard of a supposed "correct way" of playing GT5.

It's not my business if someone wants to play the game for 24 hours straight. I won't cry here for such thing to be made impossible.

But it is beyond me how some people here seem to think they can tell me how should I play the game, and how they actively call for a BAN on feature A, or cry foul if feature B is under development ... just because they think THEIR way of playing the game should be ENFORCED on others.

IMHO, the GT5 design decision to take out game saves between championship races is - putting it nicely - retarded.

IMHO, it is obvious that mid race saves for the long enduros (definitely for the 24 hour ones) will make these races "doable" (hope this word exists) for many people that, otherwise, will simply let them undone.

AND, surprise surprise ... doing them non-stop is still possible, so WHY is anyone complaining. Nothing will be taken out. Only added.

Police wannabees ... mind your own business, play your games whatever way you like.
 
I REALLY hope thre is not an unlimited number of saves for endurance. Just maybe like 5 or 6. Otherwise it would make the point of endurance...pointelss.
If you can save as many times as you want it would be just the same as doing any old a spec event multiple times.
 
AND, surprise surprise ... doing them non-stop is still possible, so WHY is anyone complaining. Nothing will be taken out. Only added.

Nail on the head, just give people the freedom to do what they want and all will be well. I have 1 more 24hr race to do, just finished one today so might wait now and see what happens in the next update. 👍
 
I REALLY hope thre is not an unlimited number of saves for endurance. Just maybe like 5 or 6. Otherwise it would make the point of endurance...pointelss.
If you can save as many times as you want it would be just the same as doing any old a spec event multiple times.

Might as well limit the number of times you can pause the game then...
 
Hun200kmh
I find it almost intolerable how people tend to be police, judge, and jail guard of a supposed "correct way" of playing GT5.

It's not my business if someone wants to play the game for 24 hours straight. I won't cry here for such thing to be made impossible.

But it is beyond me how some people here seem to think they can tell me how should I play the game, and how they actively call for a BAN on feature A, or cry foul if feature B is under development ... just because they think THEIR way of playing the game should be ENFORCED on others.

IMHO, the GT5 design decision to take out game saves between championship races is - putting it nicely - retarded.

IMHO, it is obvious that mid race saves for the long enduros (definitely for the 24 hour ones) will make these races "doable" (hope this word exists) for many people that, otherwise, will simply let them undone.

AND, surprise surprise ... doing them non-stop is still possible, so WHY is anyone complaining. Nothing will be taken out. Only added.

Police wannabees ... mind your own business, play your games whatever way you like.

👍
 
I find it almost intolerable how people tend to be police, judge, and jail guard of a supposed "correct way" of playing GT5.

It's not my business if someone wants to play the game for 24 hours straight. I won't cry here for such thing to be made impossible.

But it is beyond me how some people here seem to think they can tell me how should I play the game, and how they actively call for a BAN on feature A, or cry foul if feature B is under development ... just because they think THEIR way of playing the game should be ENFORCED on others.

IMHO, the GT5 design decision to take out game saves between championship races is - putting it nicely - retarded.

IMHO, it is obvious that mid race saves for the long enduros (definitely for the 24 hour ones) will make these races "doable" (hope this word exists) for many people that, otherwise, will simply let them undone.

AND, surprise surprise ... doing them non-stop is still possible, so WHY is anyone complaining. Nothing will be taken out. Only added.

Police wannabees ... mind your own business, play your games whatever way you like.


I agree 100% to each his own. Oh and "Doable" is a word. Mostly used in the USA as follows. "She is very Doable" .
 
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