Lap times for road cars around Nordschleife, before and after 1.49

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See this post for details about the setup, and previous results:


The main takeaways seem to be:
  • Most cars are 15 to 20 seconds slower.
  • There are a few very notable exceptions.
  • The Valkyrie is even more OP than before.
  • The new RUF RGT 4.2 '16 is seriously fast.

Code:
  1   0 06:16.001 -11.056 Aston Martin Valkyrie '21
  2  -2 06:45.409 -02.966 Chevrolet Corvette C8 '20
  3     06:50.163         RUF RGT 4.2 '16
  4 -11 06:58.940 +03.009 Porsche Carrera GT '04
  5 -23 07:00.910 +00.646 McLaren P1 GTR '16
  6 -34 07:02.415 -01.617 Pagani Zonda R '09 (1)
  7  +5 07:02.912 +16.695 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) '16
  8  -1 07:02.922 +11.878 Ferrari F40 '92
  9  -1 07:06.252 +14.983 Ferrari F50 '95
 10  +7 07:07.096 +20.708 Chevrolet Corvette C7 ZR1 '19
 11 -52 07:07.235 -05.789 RUF CTR3 '07
 12  +7 07:07.240 +18.374 Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 SV '15
 13 -69 07:07.409 -11.506 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992) '22 (1)
 14     07:09.241         Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 '08
 15  +9 07:09.362 +20.456 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) '09
 16 -44 07:09.425 -02.888 Pagani Huayra '13
 17  +3 07:09.582 +15.855 Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus '16
 18 +11 07:09.732 +19.125 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari '02
 19  +7 07:09.856 +17.490 Lamborghini Veneno '14 (2)
 20  +9 07:09.964 +17.766 Bugatti Chiron '16
 21 +13 07:10.099 +19.076 Ferrari F12berlinetta '12
 22  +9 07:10.287 +17.647 Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 '11
 23 -39 07:12.158 -00.835 Ferrari LaFerrari '13
 24 -42 07:12.546 -01.980 Aston Martin Vulcan '16
 25  +8 07:12.900 +16.814 Mercedes-AMG SLS '10
 26  +5 07:12.904 +15.921 Ferrari F8 Tributo '19
 27 +11 07:13.032 +16.951 Nissan GT-R NISMO '17
 28  +9 07:14.149 +17.738 Dodge Viper GTS '13
 29 +11 07:15.038 +18.831 Nissan GT-R Premium Edition '17
 30 -45 07:15.854 -01.779 Ferrari FXX K '14
 31  +8 07:16.481 +19.080 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon '18
 32  +8 07:18.287 +20.543 Porsche 918 Spyder '13
 33  +8 07:18.299 +20.227 Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series '20 (1) (2)
 34  +8 07:18.305 +19.829 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Package '18
 35  +6 07:18.798 +18.312 Ford GT '17
 36  +6 07:19.421 +18.410 Ferrari 458 Italia '09
 37 -50 07:19.461 -01.552 Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion '97
 38  +4 07:20.368 +17.978 Porsche Cayman GT4 '16
 39  +8 07:21.480 +20.352 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 640 '09
 40 +18 07:21.692 +24.651 Aston Martin One-77 '11
 41  +4 07:22.468 +18.917 Porsche 911 GT3 (997) '09
 42  +9 07:22.525 +20.146 Ford GT '06
 43 +11 07:22.627 +20.756 Maserati MC20 '20
 44     07:22.690         Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07
 45  +2 07:22.704 +18.406 Nissan R34 GT-R V-spec II Nür '02
 46  +4 07:22.969 +18.803 Jaguar XJ220 '92
 47 +11 07:23.117 +19.614 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '13 (2)
 48 +21 07:23.182 +24.673 Dodge Viper GTS '02
 49  +3 07:23.440 +17.885 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4 '15
 50 +12 07:23.657 +19.936 Nismo 400R '95
 51 -45 07:24.085 -00.013 McLaren F1 '94
 52 +32 07:25.905 +29.169 Chevrolet Corvette C7 '14 (3)

(1) These are cars that the AI used to crash before 1.49.
(2) These are cars that the AI tends to crash since 1.49.
(3) No valid PP when equipped with supercharger as of 1.49.
 
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Is there a way to run this simulation for individual cars, without any other traffic to affect results?
Or maybe in a 1 vs 1 race against a slower enough car to stay in P2 without being lapped?
 
rlx
See this post for details about the setup, and previous results:


The main takeaways seem to be:
  • Most cars are 15 to 20 seconds slower.
  • There are a few very notable exceptions.
  • The Valkyrie is even more OP than before.
  • The new RUF RGT 4.2 '16 is seriously fast.

Code:
  1   0 06:16.001 -11.056 Aston Martin Valkyrie '21
  2  -2 06:45.409 -02.966 Chevrolet Corvette C8 '20
  3     06:50.163         RUF RGT 4.2 '16
  4 -11 06:58.940 +03.009 Porsche Carrera GT '04
  5 -23 07:00.910 +00.646 McLaren P1 GTR '16
  6 -34 07:02.415 -01.617 Pagani Zonda R '09 (1)
  7  +5 07:02.912 +16.695 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991) '16
  8  -1 07:02.922 +11.878 Ferrari F40 '92
  9  -1 07:06.252 +14.983 Ferrari F50 '95
 10  +7 07:07.096 +20.708 Chevrolet Corvette C7 ZR1 '19
 11 -52 07:07.235 -05.789 RUF CTR3 '07
 12  +7 07:07.240 +18.374 Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 SV '15
 13 -69 07:07.409 -11.506 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992) '22 (1)
 14     07:09.241         Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 '08
 15  +9 07:09.362 +20.456 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) '09
 16 -44 07:09.425 -02.888 Pagani Huayra '13
 17  +3 07:09.582 +15.855 Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus '16
 18 +11 07:09.732 +19.125 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari '02
 19  +7 07:09.856 +17.490 Lamborghini Veneno '14 (2)
 20  +9 07:09.964 +17.766 Bugatti Chiron '16
 21 +13 07:10.099 +19.076 Ferrari F12berlinetta '12
 22  +9 07:10.287 +17.647 Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 '11
 23 -39 07:12.158 -00.835 Ferrari LaFerrari '13
 24 -42 07:12.546 -01.980 Aston Martin Vulcan '16
 25  +8 07:12.900 +16.814 Mercedes-AMG SLS '10
 26  +5 07:12.904 +15.921 Ferrari F8 Tributo '19
 27 +11 07:13.032 +16.951 Nissan GT-R NISMO '17
 28  +9 07:14.149 +17.738 Dodge Viper GTS '13
 29 +11 07:15.038 +18.831 Nissan GT-R Premium Edition '17
 30 -45 07:15.854 -01.779 Ferrari FXX K '14
 31  +8 07:16.481 +19.080 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon '18
 32  +8 07:18.287 +20.543 Porsche 918 Spyder '13
 33  +8 07:18.299 +20.227 Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series '20 (1) (2)
 34  +8 07:18.305 +19.829 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE Package '18
 35  +6 07:18.798 +18.312 Ford GT '17
 36  +6 07:19.421 +18.410 Ferrari 458 Italia '09
 37 -50 07:19.461 -01.552 Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion '97
 38  +4 07:20.368 +17.978 Porsche Cayman GT4 '16
 39  +8 07:21.480 +20.352 Lamborghini Murciélago LP 640 '09
 40 +18 07:21.692 +24.651 Aston Martin One-77 '11
 41  +4 07:22.468 +18.917 Porsche 911 GT3 (997) '09
 42  +9 07:22.525 +20.146 Ford GT '06
 43 +11 07:22.627 +20.756 Maserati MC20 '20
 44     07:22.690         Ferrari 430 Scuderia '07
 45  +2 07:22.704 +18.406 Nissan R34 GT-R V-spec II Nür '02
 46  +4 07:22.969 +18.803 Jaguar XJ220 '92
 47 +11 07:23.117 +19.614 Bugatti Veyron 16.4 '13 (2)
 48 +21 07:23.182 +24.673 Dodge Viper GTS '02
 49  +3 07:23.440 +17.885 Lamborghini Huracán LP 610-4 '15
 50 +12 07:23.657 +19.936 Nismo 400R '95
 51 -45 07:24.085 -00.013 McLaren F1 '94
 52 +32 07:25.905 +29.169 Chevrolet Corvette C7 '14 (3)

(1) These are cars that the AI used to crash before 1.49.
(2) These are cars that the AI tends to crash since 1.49.
(3) No valid PP when equipped with supercharger as of 1.49.
It looks more like the AI is adapted to the RGT being on the new physics than it being that fast. Also, I really doubt a stock R34 is that fast.
 
Is there a way to run this simulation for individual cars, without any other traffic to affect results?
Or maybe in a 1 vs 1 race against a slower enough car to stay in P2 without being lapped?

There is never more than a single car on the track.

It looks more like the AI is adapted to the RGT being on the new physics than it being that fast. Also, I really doubt a stock R34 is that fast.

All the cars are on the new physics, so I don't see why the RGT should be different. Also, none of the cars are stock – see the post I linked for setup details.
 
rlx
All the cars are on the new physics, so I don't see why the RGT should be different. Also, none of the cars are stock – see the post I linked for setup details.
I worded it a bit weird but what I meant is - the AI is probably still used to driving the other cars the way they would on the old physics, but the RGT has only ever existed on the new physics so the AI is better adapted to driving it.

Oh, and my mistake on the stock part. I should probably pay more attention to these things :P
 
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rlx
There is never more than a single car on the track.



All the cars are on the new physics, so I don't see why the RGT should be different. Also, none of the cars are stock – see the post I linked for setup details.
Ahhhhhh, I was worried it was stock and the simulation/physics were completely wack. Colour me relieved. Would you mind running them stock and posting the results?
 
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