Leaderboard for every car and track combination

[GT Pro]

Early in GT5P, a great feature was that there was an individual leaderboard for each car and track combination (e.g., if I wanted to see the leaderboard for a '92 Honda NSX on Suzuka East, I could). Why was this feature dropped? Can it be brought back?

 

[TRLWNC7396]

This could be interesting, but imagine the size of the database! Also, if there wasn't a separate list for each car, there would be a list of ringers, and no-one else would be able to beat them....

 

[Johnnypenso]

This could be interesting, but imagine the size of the database! Also, if there wasn't a separate list for each car, there would be a list of ringers, and no-one else would be able to beat them....

I don't know the database limitations but if that is an issue it's an easy one to solve. Pick only one or several cars for each track. Pick cars that are track appropriate and no duplicates. LMP's and supercars at LeMans, the Ford Aussie V8 at Bathurst, GT500 at Suzuka, Mini's in London etc. Say 5 cars x 40 tracks to keep it under control. Each leaderboard stays open for entries for 8 weeks, at which time 5 tracks/cars are rotated out and new combinations rotated in every week, or you could have the whole thing turn over at once. You could tackle 5/day for 5 days a week and never do the same one twice, ever.

 

[TRLWNC7396]

That sounds like seasonals...

 

[Johnnypenso]

That sounds like seasonals...

Leaderboards are in effect Seasonals, just for more car/track combinations. I'm suggesting it assuming date volume is an issue. If not, I'd like to see open, permanent leaderboards for all tracks and cars or at least a large variety of cars and tracks.

 

[TRLWNC7396]

Maybe it could be done if stored online, and not in each individual system.

 

[FS7]

This isn't as difficult to do as some of you guys may think.

Have 1 time trial & 1 drift trial leaderboard for each layout of each track.
List all times/scores for each layout regardless of which car the player used.
Include filters so that players can see only times for cars of a specific PP range, horsepower, drivetrain, manufacturer, model, car class, etc.
Also include filters that show stock cars only or tuned cars only, as well as filters for driving aids so that we can compare ourselves against players with similar playstyle.
The filters mentioned are all available in online lobbies, it shouldn't be too hard to implement them in leaderboards.

 

[TRLWNC7396]

Then we get into tuning.... Did they have the exhaust upgrade or the turbo upgrade.... Or both, or more.....

THAT can get complicated! But, I do agree, it's mostly just a text file.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Then we get into tuning.... Did they have the exhaust upgrade or the turbo upgrade.... Or both, or more.....

THAT can get complicated! But, I do agree, it's mostly just a text file.

Once you get into tuning, it could be assumed you're tuning to go as fast as possible so a tuned/untuned filter should be enough.

 

[Tenacious D]

This isn't as difficult to do as some of you guys may think.

I was going to say this, because a simple database doesn't require many resources, hard drive space or whatever. Even a simple text file, and a binary file would be even smaller.

In fact, I want to see a database that covers almost everything. In particular, the race history of each car, and the racing log of each track. After a couple of years, that would be quite a history.

 

[Samus]

This is where classes come in handy in the 'other' game. It means you don't need 4 billion leaderboard combinations, just a few thousand. What they could then do is have the mixed car leaderboard be able to filtered by car and various other options. Simple.

 

[TRLWNC7396]

The thought that comes to mind with @Samus 's post is that going by PP (even broken down by 10-25 PP separation) would be good (and then tire and race prepped or not). That would limit the number, but then ringers could happen....

So, it's a trade-off no matter what.

 

[Samus]

When you say ringers I assume you mean cars that dominate at the top? I think that's unavoidable whatever you do, these cars are always going to exist, that's why I think it's very important the leaderboards are easily filtered. So

But yes, I think one leaderboard for each car on each track is unrealistic. They need to generate classes (They already use them in seasonals, really) and use those for leaderboards. 350PP, 400PP, 500PP, 550PP, 600PP, 650PP, 700PP etc, then as I say you could filter them so if you only wanted to see how you compare to other 500PP Honda NSX '92 you can.

I think that would be better than nothing, personally.

 

[TRLWNC7396]

I agree, however, I'd like the breakdown to be finer. That's why I say as small a separation as 10 PP. But, also, since tires and aero (or race cars) can have a difference on outcome, those should be a separate filter, as well.

 

[FS7]

In car search one can filter cars by PP (smallest gap is 10PP), drivetrain, aspiration, country, manufacturer, year, and even car name. If PD included those filters in leaderboards one could easily find any car/track combination they want.