Left foot braking.

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Anyone found the need to accelerate and brake at the same time? Does it help in the Rallying?

It's just that I'll be using a pad you see, and since I want full analog control then I'll be accelerating and braking with the right stick. Obviously this means I can't brake and accelrate at the same time :indiff:

It's been so long since I've used my PS2 for a racing game that I'd completely forgotten about the lack of triggers. I'm now used to using the left and right triggers with my Xbox pad.

Is there a way to also assign brake to say, a shoulder button as well as the right stick at the same time?
 
There should be a way to do that. I know not all button options are available, but note that the default is for gas/brake on the right analog stick even though there does not appear to be a way to select that. BUT, when I was doing my contoller setup, I accidently set gas/brake to the LEFT stick. In reality what this meant was that the gas/brake was therefore assigned to up and down on BOTH sticks.

This is a long winded way of saying that assigning the gas/brake to something other than default right stick did not DEACTIVATE the right stick. So you should be able to set brake to an open button and still have it on the right stick as well.
 
i seriously used heel-toe technique when i play, since i drive a lot, and i brake a lot with right foot, so i'm used to it now
 
left foot braking in rally (turbo) cars means that power comes on more quicker and the corner can be taken slightly faster than the conventional way
 
In real life we left foot brake in front wheel drive cars while on the gas to create drag at the rear of the car (and cause the front to almost coast). For autox it works really really well because it can be used as a mild adjustment at times when the front doesn't have quite as much grip as you want.
One thing I never liked about GT3 was the way you could tighten up your line when cornering in a F1 car by getting on the brakes and gas together. That just should not be. Any rear wheel drive car will start to plow if you brake while being hard on the gas, as it causes drag in the front (and less traction for turning) and causes the rear to sort of coast giving it more traction compared to the front. Anyone know if they have fixed this in GT4 for the rear drive cars?
 
MuFF
i seriously used heel-toe technique when i play, since i drive a lot, and i brake a lot with right foot, so i'm used to it now
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since the game is autoclutch it and revs dont drop much when shifting it seems the game healtoes automaticly for us. so i guess everyone healtoes in gt4. I heal toe in Live For Speed. :) unless your doing that trick that only works with shifting assistance.
 
In GT3 - I use the right analog stick to shift up and shift down. I was sadden to see that I can't do that in GT4. The right analog stick is already set up by default to gas/brake.

Do anyone know how to deactivate the right analog stick? So that I can set it to my likings?
 
rollazn
In GT3 - I use the right analog stick to shift up and shift down. I was sadden to see that I can't do that in GT4. The right analog stick is already set up by default to gas/brake.

Do anyone know how to deactivate the right analog stick? So that I can set it to my likings?
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that is very strange.. it should be a shifter by default... It was for me in the NTSC version. you can change it in the options, :)
 
MuFF
i seriously used heel-toe technique when i play, since i drive a lot, and i brake a lot with right foot, so i'm used to it now
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.... wtf? there is absolutely no point to heel-toe while playing GT4 or any racing game that doesn't use a clutch pedal.
 
rollazn
Are you sure? I can't seem to change it....
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yeah im sure man, something is wrong. its supposed to be a shifter by default. Is it detecting your wheel as a driving force pro?

in options under controllers at the bottom. i think the 4th box is the player 1 driving force pro, or maybe the 5th? you can change button assignments in there. :)
 
Anyone here left-foot brakes in daily driving?

I never understood why its generally considered bad, other than wearing out your brakes much faster.
 
Gabkicks
yeah im sure man, something is wrong. its supposed to be a shifter by default. Is it detecting your wheel as a driving force pro?

in options under controllers at the bottom. i think the 4th box is the player 1 driving force pro, or maybe the 5th? you can change button assignments in there. :)
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I don't have any wheel - so I dont have to worry about that. There is the left analog stick for shift up and down but I am talking about the right one.
 
Dunno whether to buy the wheel. I got GT3 with the wheel pack. Never really used it much though. I like to use the chase view, and using the wheel with the chase view is rock hard.
 
1twojay
Anyone here left-foot brakes in daily driving?

I never understood why its generally considered bad, other than wearing out your brakes much faster.
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I rarely drive automatics so I need my left foot for the clutch. (In real life)
 
VIPERGTSR01
I rarely drive automatics so I need my left foot for the clutch. (In real life)
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Yea, I'm just saying why not use both feet in a AT car? Reaction time to braking will be much faster. They say it takes on average 0.8 seconds for a driver to recognize a hazard, lift right foot from gas and slam the brakes. Thats alot of distance traveled between 0.8 seconds.

So naturally one would assume left foot braking would improved reaction time.
 
1twojay
Yea, I'm just saying why not use both feet in a AT car? Reaction time to braking will be much faster. They say it takes on average 0.8 seconds for a driver to recognize a hazard, lift right foot from gas and slam the brakes. Thats alot of distance traveled between 0.8 seconds.

So naturally one would assume left foot braking would improved reaction time.
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Yeah man, I totally agree. I use left foot braking practically all the time in both my auto cars. Like you said the reaction time is greatly improved, especially when in moderate traffic and driveing a little quicker than nesecary. And I have been doing it for most of my driveing life, which is about 18 years, and as far as people saying you shouldn't do it, what a load... I have owned manual and auto cars at the same time, and going from the auto ( using left foot braking ) to using my manual car where it is not practical to use left foot braking in normal driving conditions, I have never had any problems forgetting what transmision I am using. I could go from giving the auto a flogging using left foot to giving the manual a flogging and then usually using the heal-toe method, for keeping it in high rpm gear changes for better ( or should I say more fun ) cornering.....
 
This may sound a little messed, but IRL with my slushbox-equipeed Honda Wagon, I find right-HAND braking to be more effective. Maybe it's the balance of the car, or just the odd way that the Real-Time 4WD system operates, but I find the brake pedal to be more hassle than it's worth, especially in low traction situations that are so common to the roads in my area. If I let off the gas enough for the front tires to stop spinning, my center driveshaft unlocks and I go from 4WD to FWD.
However, I tend to shift quite a bit, both with RL cars (slushbox or stick) and in GT. Rev-match downshifts are the only way to get a slushbox in gear quickly, and then you're either in a meaty portion of the powerband (we all know Honda's totally suck at low/medium RPMs ;) ) or can lift off hit throttle for decelleration and forward weight transfer without braking.
 
na, it doesnt sound weird at all. :) For some reason, the handbreak has always been useless in the gt series. it just makes you go way too slow, while in real life it is very usefull when whipping a car around a tight corner. And we still cant shift down into reverse... we have to press triangle :indiff:
 
TazzieDvl05au
Yeah man, I totally agree. I use left foot braking practically all the time in both my auto cars. Like you said the reaction time is greatly improved, especially when in moderate traffic and driveing a little quicker than nesecary. And I have been doing it for most of my driveing life, which is about 18 years, and as far as people saying you shouldn't do it, what a load... I have owned manual and auto cars at the same time, and going from the auto ( using left foot braking ) to using my manual car where it is not practical to use left foot braking in normal driving conditions, I have never had any problems forgetting what transmision I am using. I could go from giving the auto a flogging using left foot to giving the manual a flogging and then usually using the heal-toe method, for keeping it in high rpm gear changes for better ( or should I say more fun ) cornering.....
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Nice, one of the few people I've heard of that really does it on a daily basis. Do you find yourself braking with your foot still on the gas, or do you release throttle all the way when braking? Also do you find any effect on brake-wear? I'm considering adapting this method, just wanna know of the side effects.
 
I was told by a mechanic that it puts extra stress on the breaks using LFB, i dont remember what he said exactly, but i do know it causes stuff to wear out quicker.
 

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