Logan (or: No Country for Old Mutants)Movies
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...Gotta say, I wasn't convinced of the first Wolvie solo outing. The second one, although much improved, also wasn't all that.... exciting. Apologies for my lack of ability to word it better.
It must be the Cash's cover of Trent Reznor's Hurt, but man, I'm sold.
I only have a cursory knowledge regarding the Old Man Logan storyline - wonder how close this flim will mirror that.
It must be the Cash's cover of Trent Reznor's Hurt, but man, I'm sold.
I only have a cursory knowledge regarding the Old Man Logan storyline - wonder how close this flim will mirror that.
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Finally been waiting for someone to make a thread on this and Ragnorak, cause one I'm too lazy and too busy to do it. Thanks @SlipZtrEm
Remember Rated R means Ragetastic
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Is there a reason why Jackman looks like Mel Gibson?
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More like Joel from TLoU.
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I have watched maybe 10% of the super hero (Marvel, DC, etc) movies that have come out in the last 10 years, but I'm definitely in for this one. I like when they are less imaginative and more realistic.
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...That's quite a low percentage. May I ask why?
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Movie looks so good.
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Jackman and Stewart on Logan:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-01/xmens-hugh-jackman-and-patrick-stewart-on-logan/8311074
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-01/xmens-hugh-jackman-and-patrick-stewart-on-logan/8311074
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I totally agree. I'm not real big on modern superhero movies.(the superman movies with Christopher Reeves were great). The DK movies with Bale, and the Wolverine movies with Hugh Jackman, I love though. Spiderman is a pansy compared to those superheroes.
There's just way too many superhero movies now, I find a lot of them silly and over the top.
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Just saw this tonight. It was pretty good.
It was a bit of a shock seeing how much Logan and Professor X had aged in this film, that was probably the saddest part of the film for me (well, apart from their deaths).
One thing that I didn't quite gather was what happened to the other X-Men, Wikipedia said Professor X accidentally killed them with one of his seizures, but I don't seem to recall that scene. I also would have liked to have seen what that Doctor was doing, was he splicing together the genes of mutants in order to create some sort of super-mutant? Or just experimenting for the hell of it?
Also, a friend pointed this out to me: the young mutants all had Mexican mother's, yet one of the kids was African-American. Did I miss something?
One thing that I didn't quite gather was what happened to the other X-Men, Wikipedia said Professor X accidentally killed them with one of his seizures, but I don't seem to recall that scene. I also would have liked to have seen what that Doctor was doing, was he splicing together the genes of mutants in order to create some sort of super-mutant? Or just experimenting for the hell of it?
Also, a friend pointed this out to me: the young mutants all had Mexican mother's, yet one of the kids was African-American. Did I miss something?
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I'll see it this weekend, probably on Sunday.
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Whew. Solid film, and easily the best solo Wolverine one (not that that's saying much). Best X-Men movie? Debatable: it's so completely different in tone to what's come before. Which is probably why...
Dafne Keen is outstanding. She's arguably less impressive once she's speaking — how she plays Laura without using a word is a treat. Jackman is — unsurprisingly — very comfortable in this character by now, and it's a tough one to say goodbye to. Stewart is almost too foul-mouthed, even accounting for Xavier's very advanced age, but I thought of it as a reflection of the depression the younger version of him showed in Days of Futures Past.
The rating is definitely earned: this is a far more violent movie than Deadpool. Wolverine has some stand-out moments, but it's really all about Laura. I think the first scene we get of her doing work is the most impressive one.
Good news for those worried about superhero fatigue: there's no giant blue death-ray shooting through the sky here. The final battle is a personal, small-scale one.
Outside of TDK, super hero movies are locked out of the meatier Oscar awards. It's obviously early in the year, but I hope Logan will be considered when the time comes.
Deadpool showed up before the movie, and not after.
Dafne Keen is outstanding. She's arguably less impressive once she's speaking — how she plays Laura without using a word is a treat. Jackman is — unsurprisingly — very comfortable in this character by now, and it's a tough one to say goodbye to. Stewart is almost too foul-mouthed, even accounting for Xavier's very advanced age, but I thought of it as a reflection of the depression the younger version of him showed in Days of Futures Past.
The rating is definitely earned: this is a far more violent movie than Deadpool. Wolverine has some stand-out moments, but it's really all about Laura. I think the first scene we get of her doing work is the most impressive one.
Good news for those worried about superhero fatigue: there's no giant blue death-ray shooting through the sky here. The final battle is a personal, small-scale one.
Outside of TDK, super hero movies are locked out of the meatier Oscar awards. It's obviously early in the year, but I hope Logan will be considered when the time comes.
In a way, this is almost like a Marvel movie, in the sense that there's no memorable bad guy. Pierce is entertaining on screen, but he's just a military man with a robot hand — less impressive than the Winter Soldier in terms of skill and menace (who coincidentally had a handler named Pierce). The doctor was utterly forgettable. Figured there'd be a "new model" fight — much like Terminator 2, this one was just as unbelievable, as there's no way the near-death Wolverine should've stood a chance.
The X-24 was easily the most disappointing part of the movie: there's no reason for it to have looked identical to Logan, and I'm guessing keeping it out of the promotional material was to avoid a backlash.
How come Laura is an evolutionary upgrade of what came before, but so many of the other test-tube mutants were weak? Iceman could turn his body into ice, and craft methods of transportation. A girl can breathe cold air onto you? Wow, she'd be no different than a regular human once you're ten feet away.
I felt Xavier's death didn't have the impact it could have. The action also didn't really make sense in terms of X-24's unstoppable rage everywhere outside of that. That being said, Logan's choked-up goodbye, without so much as a complete sentence, made up for it.
That ambiguous "this is what it feels like" was a smart play at the end.
The X-24 was easily the most disappointing part of the movie: there's no reason for it to have looked identical to Logan, and I'm guessing keeping it out of the promotional material was to avoid a backlash.
How come Laura is an evolutionary upgrade of what came before, but so many of the other test-tube mutants were weak? Iceman could turn his body into ice, and craft methods of transportation. A girl can breathe cold air onto you? Wow, she'd be no different than a regular human once you're ten feet away.
I felt Xavier's death didn't have the impact it could have. The action also didn't really make sense in terms of X-24's unstoppable rage everywhere outside of that. That being said, Logan's choked-up goodbye, without so much as a complete sentence, made up for it.
That ambiguous "this is what it feels like" was a smart play at the end.
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So i watched this movie this morning, and oh was i pleased.
Also i bit frustrated because they lifted a bit on the wolverine healing problem but not what really happened.
A lot of questions are answered in the movie but not all.
Here are some of my thoughts that some of you are wondering about
Besides some small high tech thingamajigs in the movie, it was very enjoyable to watch.
At least no highspeed bullet train fight or a big size samurai robot like the previous wolverine story.
A movie that showed the flawes (human sides) of Charles and Logan...almost real..
I watched it in the cinema at 10:30 this morning, there more in this movie, but you have to watch it.
Also, i do not want to be on the bad side of Laura...
Also i bit frustrated because they lifted a bit on the wolverine healing problem but not what really happened.
A lot of questions are answered in the movie but not all.
Here are some of my thoughts that some of you are wondering about
Charles and logan old? The story plays in the year 2024.
And logan is ill because of something from the father of the doctor in this movie and Logan will not look like a fit wolverine anymore, and off course the heavy drinking..
Charles killed the other x-men? i know a number from the movie, so the x-men could be in that number.
Around 600 people were killed with a stroke that charles had, because that's why Charles needed to be hidden.
Those are my findings but i could be wrong about some.
And logan is ill because of something from the father of the doctor in this movie and Logan will not look like a fit wolverine anymore, and off course the heavy drinking..
Charles killed the other x-men? i know a number from the movie, so the x-men could be in that number.
Around 600 people were killed with a stroke that charles had, because that's why Charles needed to be hidden.
Those are my findings but i could be wrong about some.
Just saw this tonight. It was pretty good.
Also, a friend pointed this out to me: the young mutants all had Mexican mother's, yet one of the kids was African-American. Did I miss something?
And the white skinny girl with the little shark teeth?
But here goes, the mexican mothers are carriers, they're not the mutants with the "gene".
So if the mutant gene was from a african-american (could just be african like the black panther)?
It could develop either way, but the African -american chromosome, on this mutant embryo, was stronger.
Also, what eggs did they use? the ones from the mothers or ... (you never know)
Then again, it is a movie.
But here goes, the mexican mothers are carriers, they're not the mutants with the "gene".
So if the mutant gene was from a african-american (could just be african like the black panther)?
It could develop either way, but the African -american chromosome, on this mutant embryo, was stronger.
Also, what eggs did they use? the ones from the mothers or ... (you never know)
Then again, it is a movie.
If you mean the footknives? Remember the lion story from Charles? (when they watched the clip on the phone)
and also what the doctor said: She's the result of a mistake, because the doctor, or rather the doctor's father destroyed mutants or the gene for becoming mutant (Logans illness for not healing), tried to alter the gene but failed.
My guess they wanted mutants, but more controlable, instead of that the mutants had full power.
But with laura, the mutant gene extended to its fullest potential because the doctor made his mistake(whatever that mistake was/is)?
The kids have and use that green stuff in that flask, that logan uses to get pumped up, Laura did not need that.
So yeah i think that the doctor controlled the embryo's but failed with the wolverine gene, look at nr. 24, not really controlable.(2nd mistake)
and also what the doctor said: She's the result of a mistake, because the doctor, or rather the doctor's father destroyed mutants or the gene for becoming mutant (Logans illness for not healing), tried to alter the gene but failed.
My guess they wanted mutants, but more controlable, instead of that the mutants had full power.
But with laura, the mutant gene extended to its fullest potential because the doctor made his mistake(whatever that mistake was/is)?
The kids have and use that green stuff in that flask, that logan uses to get pumped up, Laura did not need that.
So yeah i think that the doctor controlled the embryo's but failed with the wolverine gene, look at nr. 24, not really controlable.(2nd mistake)
Besides some small high tech thingamajigs in the movie, it was very enjoyable to watch.
At least no highspeed bullet train fight or a big size samurai robot like the previous wolverine story.
A movie that showed the flawes (human sides) of Charles and Logan...almost real..
I watched it in the cinema at 10:30 this morning, there more in this movie, but you have to watch it.
Also, i do not want to be on the bad side of Laura...
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Just got back from watching it. My thoughts (I won't spoil too much but I'm playing it safe):
It's a satisfying swan song for Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. This is a much more down to earth film than most other superhero films. Also, Laura is pretty damn terrifying. I just wish there was a better enemy than a bootleg version of Wolverine. I don't really have much else to say other than that.
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That was damn impressive.
Very gutsy move by the studio, and I think it paid off. Easily one of the best X movies ever, if not the best. Granted, it lacks a clear or compelling antagonist, but it isn't that kind of movie. Instead, it is a "Hero's Journey", much in the same vein as a good western or samurai flick.
I see shades of "Unforgiven", "Leon" (minus the creepy Elektra complex) and even "Of Mice and Men" (with a yacht instead of rabbits).
I like that it doesn't draw out emotional scenes to tug at your heartstrings. It's unflinching in facing death. And yet there are a lot of tender moments. The chemistry between the three leads is fantastic.
I also like that it actively refuses to play the tropes. Ends are left loose. Unexplained. Lampshaded moments don't turn out as expected. And there's no Deus Ex Machina to set things right when things seem hopeless.
Great movie. Well worth a double watch.
Very gutsy move by the studio, and I think it paid off. Easily one of the best X movies ever, if not the best. Granted, it lacks a clear or compelling antagonist, but it isn't that kind of movie. Instead, it is a "Hero's Journey", much in the same vein as a good western or samurai flick.
I see shades of "Unforgiven", "Leon" (minus the creepy Elektra complex) and even "Of Mice and Men" (with a yacht instead of rabbits).
I like that it doesn't draw out emotional scenes to tug at your heartstrings. It's unflinching in facing death. And yet there are a lot of tender moments. The chemistry between the three leads is fantastic.
I also like that it actively refuses to play the tropes. Ends are left loose. Unexplained. Lampshaded moments don't turn out as expected. And there's no Deus Ex Machina to set things right when things seem hopeless.
Great movie. Well worth a double watch.
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True, but the focus is not on the struggle with the antagonist, but on the internal struggle.
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Besides, in a world without mutants, what superpowered antagonist could you bring to bear? Bringing more fantasy to the table, I think, would shatter the realistic atmosphere they were aiming for. I like that the scale was small and personal. Not lost in a sea of effects and world-shattering events like "Age of Apocalypse" was.
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Just got back from seeing it, and all I have to say is: More comic based movies like this please.
Also, we're starting a string of badass child actress's lately. Wonder who will pop up next.
Also, we're starting a string of badass child actress's lately. Wonder who will pop up next.
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Found an interesting article about CGI actors used in Logan. For those who haven't seen the film yet it may have spoilers so be careful.
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/vfx/cg-actors-logan-never-knew-149013.html
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/vfx/cg-actors-logan-never-knew-149013.html
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