Logitech G25?

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Hi Guys,

I am new to the forums, just wondering if someone could give me a bit of advice. Is the Logitech G25 the best wheel to get for GT5:P? I ask because I couldn't find the G25 listed anywhere in the options to change the button configuration.

Sorry if this has been posted already (I'm sure it has), I got some more economic stimulus money today and am looking to buy one on ebay tomorrow.

Thanks for the help!
Brian
 
Lots of threads discussing this.

Yes, it works perfectly (including H-shifter & clutch), but is not "officially" supported. Some say the FFB is not as strong as with the DFGT or DFP, because it's not officially supported - I don't know if this is true, but I do find the FFB in GT5P too weak myself.
 
Hi Guys,

I am new to the forums, just wondering if someone could give me a bit of advice. Is the Logitech G25 the best wheel to get for GT5:P? I ask because I couldn't find the G25 listed anywhere in the options to change the button configuration.

Sorry if this has been posted already (I'm sure it has), I got some more economic stimulus money today and am looking to buy one on ebay tomorrow.

Thanks for the help!
Brian

No it does not work perfect..

I do not get why G25 feedback is SO weak compared to DFP/DF-GT.. The Force feedback alone is bad with G25..

If I were you buy the DF-GT wheel.. or the Fanatec



Best wheel to get for GT5P is the Fanatec Turbo S wheel.. Extra money but its best.. Not to mention it works with xbox360 if you have that too.. So its good for all 3 consoles, with best feedback possible.
 
No it does not work perfect..

I do not get why G25 feedback is SO weak compared to DFP/DF-GT.. The Force feedback alone is bad with G25..

Completely disagree with you there.

Best wheel to get for GT5P is the Fanatec Turbo S wheel.. Extra money but its best.. Not to mention it works with xbox360 if you have that too.. So its good for all 3 consoles, with best feedback possible.

Is the clutch of the Porsche Turbo wheel usable in GT5P?
 
I just had a race in the F2007 and the G25 is pretty damned stiff when driving it, just as stiff as any other PC sims I race on if not more.
 
I have the same problem... I really wan't the G25 becourse of the manuel transmission, good materials and the fact that I can use it for PC too. My question is just if it is just as good for GT5 Prologue as the DFGT, since theres no in-game setting for it. I'm aware of the weaker FFB, but how does the precision and/or accuracy in the G25 compare to the DF'ers in GT5? (if you forget about other benefits of both wheels - only the feeling in the wheel itself ;P)

I just need to know that Logitech G25 is just as good/precise in Gran Turismo as any other similar wheel; and I will buy it. I'm also aware of the possible upcomming G27, but if the G25 still can be compared (even with the lack of "support" of the game) I really can't wait for a new one.. ;D
 
I have the same problem... I really wan't the G25 becourse of the manuel transmission, good materials and the fact that I can use it for PC too. My question is just if it is just as good for GT5 Prologue as the DFGT, since theres no in-game setting for it. I'm aware of the weaker FFB, but how does the precision and/or accuracy in the G25 compare to the DF'ers in GT5? (if you forget about other benefits of both wheels - only the feeling in the wheel itself ;P)

I just need to know that Logitech G25 is just as good/precise in Gran Turismo as any other similar wheel; and I will buy it. I'm also aware of the possible upcomming G27, but if the G25 still can be compared (even with the lack of "support" of the game) I really can't wait for a new one.. ;D

As someone who was neurotic/crazy enough to have bought both the G25 and DFGT within the last 3 months (errm...yeah, I did :guilty: but I got the DFGT for under $100 at Gamestop with a few game trade-in credits :dopey: ) I can offer you a little insight into the pros & cons of each wheel:

DFGT Pros:

  • Excellent force feedback in GT5P-more consistent/smoother than G25
  • More buttons on the wheel itself-excellent for online racing. You don't have to take your hands off the wheel to look behind you or make changes with in-race RA functions.
  • PS button on the wheel so you can use it to navigate through the PS3's XMB menus
  • Runs much "cooler" than the G25 as it has only one FFB motor compared to the G25's two motors. I could be wrong, but it's bound to be cheaper on your energy bill as a result.
  • Excellent grip/feel in your hands
  • Fewer cords than the G25= tidier setup
  • +/- $100 or more cheaper than the G25

DFGT Cons:

  • Paddle shifters are a little hard to reach if you have small hands, and they don't make as much of a pronounced "clicking" sound as the G25, so it is a bit easier to miss/make a late shift with them
  • The pedals are "just okay" in quality. Nowhere near the feel and quality of the G25 pedals for example.

G25 Pros:

  • Passes the "look" test right out of the box.
  • Extemely well-made (or so it seems to me, as quite a few people have had mechanical failure issues with it, just scan the forums and you can see for yourself)
  • The paddle shifters are excellent compared to the DFGT.
  • The pedals are better than the DFGT by orders of magnitude IMO
  • You have the option of using an H-Pattern shifter and clutch on most of the cars in GT5P, enhancing the "real-driving simulator" experience.

G25 Cons:

  • The clutch/H-pattern shifter do not work as they should in GT5P in my opinion. It's far too easy to miss a shift, and the shifter itself is not very solid or sturdy feeling. So unless you just enjoy cruising around while using it, I wouldn't recommend it for online racing as it's too easy to miss a shift, which at places like the hairpin exit at Suzuka can easily cost you half a second.
  • The force feedback has definite "dead zones" meaning the feedback is not 100% consistent in GT5P, unlike the DFGT.
  • The button layout/configuration is a bit more convoluted/difficult compared to the DFGT. For example, you will most certainly have to take your hand off of the wheel during races if you plan on using the in-race adjustment function, or even to look-back if you use the two red buttons on the wheel for the look right/look left function (as you should for online racing, if you want to be a clean, courteous driver :) )

As another anecdotal piece of evidence in support of the DFGT, here is an account from one of the better drivers in the GT5P "universe" who made the switch from the G25 to the DFGT and swears by it.

Here is a thread that will also answer a lot of other questions you may have about choosing a wheel. There are countless other threads as well that may help you. Just take your time and look around :)

My advice would be this: if you can possibly do it, just hold off on buying a G25 and wait for the G27 that should be coming out soon. In the meantime, save yourself about $100 dollars and buy the DFGT if you have to have a wheel now (and I would recommend buying the wheel, best purchase you will ever make 👍 ). If money is not a concern, and you have a little patience, I would further recommend buying one of the Fanatec line of PS3 compatible wheels along with Clubsport Pedals. They are more expensive than the G25, and you may have to wait a few months to actually receive it, but based on what I am seeing, reading and hearing from other people who have bought it, it is well worth the wait and the extra money, as it provides better force feedback than the G25 and the Clubsport pedals are better than the G25 pedals by a good margin--and that's saying quite a bit :dopey:

It's been my experience that I run pretty much identical lap times with either the DFGT or G25. So in retrospect, I really wish I had just bought the DFGT to begin with and saved the extra +/- $140 difference in wheel prices :(

Hope this helps. I'm going to shut up now :lol:
 
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Thank you very much! ;)
Maybe I'm going for the DFGT instead, course (maybe I'm not being fair here) if you take a look at the good/bad things about both the wheels, you will notice that there is more positive things about the Driving Force AND less negative.. Ofcourse you can discuss whether some of the things is worth more than others but.. :D
The two negative points you mentioned about the GT'er is also the ones that I can see myself and if you can live with that it's great.

Just one thing: That wheel isn't officially supported for PC though, but I've seen someone playing LFS with it, so I guess you can?

Since I don't think I can wait for the G27 (not confirmed yet) the cheaper wheel could be the answer. :)
 
Can confirm that it works well with the PC... I have been playing a fair bit of GTR Evolution with DFGT... and even the much lesser known NetKar Pro.. got to love those Formula Fords !!!

Get one!
 
This is an interesting post on the Logitech forums.

Guys, Logitech clearly has some licensing problems with MS and the 360 that cannot be overcome at the present time. However, they have already pointed out indirectly how we can sort the issue for ourselves and enable existing hardware to work on the 360, re read the entire thread and understand there is a need for them to be somewhat cryptic in their replies.

If you are not technically competent, speak to someone who understands how controller boards and the USB VID/PID for different platforms work; then and ask them how they can be integrated or switched with a simple toggle switch using a fairly simple hardware mod. Kudos! Thanks!

http://forums.logitech.com/logitech/board/message?board.id=xbox&message.id=72#M72
 
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