OK, I seem to be asking a lot of questions. too many maybe, but bear with me 
I've always wanted to get into "tuning" a car, I've owned GT series from GT3 to until now, and I always thought the cars were what they were- nothing more, can't change anything, etc. But then I found this forum, and i drowned in the world of spring rate, dampers, camber, toe, etc.
Anyways, I want to start tuning my own cars, and I've read Scaff's guides and some others here, (some drifting tuning ones, some normal ones.) but I see one major- confusion you might say.
Guides often recommend a certain "direction", per say, for a problem (be it understeer, oversteer, fishtailing, no grip, braking distance, etc). However, I see a lot of tunes from the garages that I visit, and the tunes always, always ALWAYS differ. For example, for the Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo (one of my favorite cars
), the tunes differ a lot.
1. Avid (Vette? Idk, sorry Q__Q) puts a spring rate of 16.2 / 15.8
2. Tharain puts a spring rate of 14.0/13.0
3. And then suddenly Wienish' puts spring rate of 12.0/16.0
I don't know id that was an ideal description of what I'm facing right now, but I think it somewhat manages what I want to say.
Another example:
Nissan GT-R V-Spec '09
1. JC has damper values of
damp ext:4/7
damp com:7/6
2. And then Mazdaman has damper values of
8F/6R
8F/6R
When I first read the guides, I thought I knew what I was doing, but when I compared what I tuned to other people, Their tuning settings were completely different and still worked better than mine!
Is there a way to somehow "tune" a car to fit your style?
like, a loose outline of what to tune first, etc.
I'm not asking for a range of numbers for each car, but a series of steps of how to tune a random car out of the dealership.
Would you tune transmission first? OR suspension? Or maybe brakes?
And since there are so many factors that affect a single trait of the car, how would you know which one to change?
Doesn't
-lowering front ride height
-Lowering front damper settings
-Lowering front anti-roll bars
all decrease understeer? Then which do you change? All of them at the same time?
TL;DR --> Is there a basic outline tuners use to tune their cars? Like ride height first, then spring rate.. etc, or is it just a free for all hope for the best stab kind of thing?
I've always wanted to get into "tuning" a car, I've owned GT series from GT3 to until now, and I always thought the cars were what they were- nothing more, can't change anything, etc. But then I found this forum, and i drowned in the world of spring rate, dampers, camber, toe, etc.
Anyways, I want to start tuning my own cars, and I've read Scaff's guides and some others here, (some drifting tuning ones, some normal ones.) but I see one major- confusion you might say.
Guides often recommend a certain "direction", per say, for a problem (be it understeer, oversteer, fishtailing, no grip, braking distance, etc). However, I see a lot of tunes from the garages that I visit, and the tunes always, always ALWAYS differ. For example, for the Amuse S2000 GT1 Turbo (one of my favorite cars
), the tunes differ a lot.1. Avid (Vette? Idk, sorry Q__Q) puts a spring rate of 16.2 / 15.8
2. Tharain puts a spring rate of 14.0/13.0
3. And then suddenly Wienish' puts spring rate of 12.0/16.0
I don't know id that was an ideal description of what I'm facing right now, but I think it somewhat manages what I want to say.
Another example:
Nissan GT-R V-Spec '09
1. JC has damper values of
damp ext:4/7
damp com:7/6
2. And then Mazdaman has damper values of
8F/6R
8F/6R
When I first read the guides, I thought I knew what I was doing, but when I compared what I tuned to other people, Their tuning settings were completely different and still worked better than mine!
Is there a way to somehow "tune" a car to fit your style?
like, a loose outline of what to tune first, etc.
I'm not asking for a range of numbers for each car, but a series of steps of how to tune a random car out of the dealership.
Would you tune transmission first? OR suspension? Or maybe brakes?
And since there are so many factors that affect a single trait of the car, how would you know which one to change?
Doesn't
-lowering front ride height
-Lowering front damper settings
-Lowering front anti-roll bars
all decrease understeer? Then which do you change? All of them at the same time?
TL;DR --> Is there a basic outline tuners use to tune their cars? Like ride height first, then spring rate.. etc, or is it just a free for all hope for the best stab kind of thing?
