Microsoft's (probably biased) XBox 360 vs PS3

[s0l1dsn8k3]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html

At IGN, they received these info from Microsoft showing how XBox 360 overpowers the PS3 in every single way (except for streaming floating-point calcuations). Microsoft touts the XBox 360 general purpose CPU will outperform PS3's Cell Processor as it is more flexible for gaming use. It also says the 256 GB/s bandwidth to the embedded RAM in XBox 360's GPU will blow PS3 away.

Here are couple excerpts from the article:

There are three critical performance aspects of a console:

* Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.

- The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.​

* Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance

- The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.​

* Memory System Bandwidth

- The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times.​

Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance.

Looks impressive and true, the numbers do. But, believe what Microsoft is claiming, I do not ...

... well at least not all, but I do think that the embedded RAM in the GPU do help the performance. It is still up to developers to take enough advantage of it to show it is actually better.

I'll reserve my judgement until both systems and games come out.

 

[smellysocks12]

You didn't expect M$ to say that the PS3 is better, right? Just like you shouldn't expect Sony to say that the X-Box 360 is better.

 

[tha_con]

That report is skewed and biased, some spots are correct, but a lot of the claims are just way's to show they are better.

General Processing, for example...there aren't a lot of games out that do tons of "general" processing. I'll reserve my judgement of microsofts claims when I play both consoles...but without software to actually benchmark both, they are just claims for hte time being.

 

[code_kev]

I'll reserve my judgement until both systems and games come out.

Wise move, shame alot of the members here are too stupid to do that.

 

[xcsti]

Wise move, shame alot of the members here are too stupid to do that.

I love how frequently you get flamed for taking that stance.

Both systems are going to rock, I personally believe the realism is reaching a point where it is hard to discern differences between some games and where it all comes down to the simple gameplay not which system can render perfect real time shadows and reflections better.

 

[code_kev]

I know, it's comedy. Some people all ready prefer one machine, and neither are out, nor have they played a single game on either! I just don't know how they can make their minds up, I need real world game play experience before I pass judgement.

 

[KENJIusa]

Wise move, shame alot of the members here are too stupid to do that.

You cannot say other members are stupid, they just have different opinions, code_kev, and base on what we've seen in E3, the PS3 is obviously more impressive than XBOX 360.

 

[code_kev]

No, I can. Anyone who judges a console on tech demos is a GREAT BIG idiot.

 

[KENJIusa]

They're not idiots, they're just too excited, code_kev, and saying PS3 is better than XBOX 360 (no matter it's true or not) is a way to relieve that excitement. Just like XBOX fanboys say Forza is better than GT4 even before Forza comes out.

 

[kjb]

I have to agree with code_kev. It is way too early to jude which system is better. Ultimately it depends on what type of games are available on each system .

 

[Omnis]

my bias towards the ps3 is only because of the cell processor and the potential it holds.

microsoft's processing units are fine and dandy, but there is a much greater future to behold with what the cell could be capable of. not to mention, it's architecture is perfect for gaming and other A/V uses.

 

[Omnis]

upon reading the article, i think it's rather biased and single-minded. who knows? i feel like all this crap is just propaganda and hype, be it from the ps3 or the x360. the article is also on the x360's dedicated section of ign.

all this crap is ridiculous.

 

[213101]

I know, it's comedy. Some people all ready prefer one machine, and neither are out, nor have they played a single game on either! I just don't know how they can make their minds up, I need real world game play experience before I pass judgement.

I know you secretly think the xbox 360 is better.

 

[kikie]

I don't know which one I am going to get!! It depends on only one thing. I like and only like racing sims and I'll get that system that has the best racing sims available and the possiblility to use a descent steering wheel, pedalbox, shifter and surround gaming => visual and audio.
If, lets say, GTR2 is going to be an XBOX 360 sim and the speed7 pedals and steering wheel and shifter are going to be compatible with the XBOX 360, I'll be more interested in the XBOX 360 but if GTR2 will be on the PS3 and GT5, 6, 7 will be the only descent sim (besides GTR2), I'll get the PS3!!!
I have never owned an XBOX because there weren't any descent sims and no steering wheel available. This could change in the near future though.

I am just using GTR2 as an example, there will be, very good and realistic sims on either platforms

 

[TriplePlay]

I know you secretly think the xbox 360 is better.

"OMZG PZ3 EZ 1337 I7 W1!! PWN UR SOU1ZZZ@!!!!@"

sarcasm? or flame?
It's stupid, ignorant people like you that piss me off. how the hell do you know what hes thinking? trust me i know code, he just hates people who judge things that they know CRAP about. so why dont we stop making retarded comments

 

[James2097]

But Code IS biased toward the Xbox, regardless of whether he himself knows it or not.
Regardless of what he really thinks, this is indeed the way he comes across most of the time.

 

[code_kev]

I know you secretly think the xbox 360 is better.

Oh OBVIOUSLY! Even though I've never even seen one in real life, xbox360 4 eva!


Oh and yes, I DO think the xbox is better then a PS2. Why? Not because I'm biased, it's because I prefer the games and the moddability. This doesn't mean I think it's perfect, or that the PS2 sucks, far from it. Who knows, if the PS3 has better games IMO next gen, I'll prefer it, simple as.

 

[James2097]

Oh OBVIOUSLY! Even though I've never even seen one in real life, xbox360 4 eva!


Oh and yes, I DO think the xbox is better then a PS2. Why? Not because I'm biased, it's because I prefer the games and the moddability. This doesn't mean I think it's perfect, or that the PS2 sucks, far from it. Who knows, if the PS3 has better games IMO next gen, I'll prefer it, simple as.

When did I question the VALIDITY of your point of view Code? Its fine to prefer certain systems if you genuinely enjoy them more! All I said was that you are more inclined to root for Xbox over PlayStation, which you admit, so its all cool!

Just fired you up a bit hey... I knew I'd get some silly l334 speak also.

 

[LaBounti]

X360 will own in the "general procsessing" area but i guess that means it will fail in everything else. then. This was the most retared comparison I've read. Only Microsoft would do something like this. Find ANY angle they can, yet its the games that make systems.

Even if the X360 "is" more powerfull in "general procsessing" M$ is forgetting the other features it has Xbox360 doesnt, next they are going inform us on how usless blu-ray is or the lack of a use for 2 1080p hdtv's. Of all companies MS should know a power advantage means nothing.

PS3's 2billion floating point operations are for everything not just games, I guess the person who wrote that didnt see the sony press conference.


my $0.02, .

 

[BlackZ28]

I believe Sony would have benefited using ATi instead.

 

[213101]

geez u guys are high strung. relax the **** out.

 

[a6m5]

Same article was featured in the PS3 vs Xbox thread few days ago. This was my take on it.

We decided to put this Microsoft-provided information our undigested. Thus, enclosed is a Microsoft-made comparitive analysis. We have not alterted, added, or tinkered with the data. We have not interpreted the specs. We have pasted and cut this information from the email into our site and formatted it. Make of it what you will, but be clear we know Microsoft has clearly slanted this info, and we're not endorsing it, just printing their version. There is a difference.

CONCLUSION
When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably(probably?) more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment.

However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games—by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services—will outperform the PlayStation 3.

This article is screaming: "Microsoft propaganda".

Also, after crunching of the numbers, their conclusion is: "Xbox 360 has provably more performance the PS3". "Keep in mind, Sony lies about the Playstaion specs!". I agree, I'm sure Sony dishes out a lot of B.S. about their system. Funny thing, the source of this article is the Microsofts' version of the B.S. and they didn't even bother doing a good job of it.

I don't doubt that X360 is a good machine and I'm sure the Sony and Nintendo systems will be good also, but I don't think this article prove anything. Just my opinion.

"OMZG PZ3 EZ 1337 I7 W1!! PWN UR SOU1ZZZ@!!!!@"

sarcasm? or flame?
It's stupid, ignorant people like you that piss me off. how the hell do you know what hes thinking? trust me i know code, he just hates people who judge things that they know CRAP about. so why dont we stop making retarded comments

Come on, let's all get along! Code is one of the most entertaining member here at GTP and I love reading his post, but let's face it, he is like the "official" Xbox fanboy of GTPlanet.

 

[725]

I love how frequently you get flamed for taking that stance.

Both systems are going to rock, I personally believe the realism is reaching a point where it is hard to discern differences between some games and where it all comes down to the simple gameplay not which system can render perfect real time shadows and reflections better.

That is very true as consumers we should be glad that we have such great options, all this competition just means that games are going to get better and be better.

upon reading the article, i think it's rather biased and single-minded. who knows? i feel like all this crap is just propaganda and hype, be it from the ps3 or the x360. the article is also on the x360's dedicated section of ign.

all this crap is ridiculous.

It is ridiculous. For me personally I've always been a games orientated person, I bought a PS2 because of the GTA, Metal Gear Solid and Gran Turismo games and I bought an Xbox because of the Halo games, I'll buy the next gen consoles because of the quality games as well as the Specs of the consoles. All the competition should mean that they will be cheaper too

 

[chinko]

when i first played on an X-box i found that sometimes it was incredibly un-user friendly. i mean, to rip a cd i have to put it in, go back, then go back in to rip it!! also i cant leave a disc spinning in the drive while im editing settings (say between 50 and 60hz for project gotham), so i'll try to switch to 50 and get as far as the options when the game starts! now the ps2 only boots the game if you go back to the main screen. if im in the options or memory card area then it poddles along waiting for me. if the same happens with the xbox360 and the ps3 i'll be choosing the ps3. then again, if they both do the same as the GCN and let me choose when to load, i'd be happy.

as for the article, biased is an understatement

 

[code_kev]

when i first played on an X-box i found that sometimes it was incredibly un-user friendly

It's simple, my 8 year old sister can use it.

i mean, to rip a cd i have to put it in, go back, then go back in to rip it!!

Oh noes, 4 extra button presses!

also i cant leave a disc spinning in the drive while im editing settings (say between 50 and 60hz for project gotham), so i'll try to switch to 50 and get as far as the options when the game starts!

Umm leave games out while changing options? Also just leave it on 60hz like everyone else anyway? The options are changed so rarely anyway, you hardly change em for every game you play.

if the same happens with the xbox360 and the ps3 i'll be choosing the ps3

LOL I love that, the fact you wouldn't buy a machine because of the way you change from 50 to 60 hz! Brilliant!

Ok ok, my turn. I'm only going to buy a ps3 if it uses cartridges.

 

[chinko]

Umm game in drive, xbox on, game starts.



Oh noes, 4 extra button presses!



Umm leave games out while changing options? Also just leave it on 60hz like everyone else anyway? The options are changed so rarely anyway, you hardly change em for every game you play.



LOL I love that, the fact you wouldn't buy a machine because of the way you change from 50 to 60 hz! Brilliant!

i didnt mean JUST the 50 to 60hz thing, its just i like to be able to tinker around when the disk is inside the console if were using a different TV. im a lazy bugger, i dont want to get up more than 3 times just to start a game, i like to leave it in the machine when im faffing around getting it to look the way i want it to. heck, 4 button pushes may seem small, but it should have 'play' and 'rip' as soon as the audio cd loads, not just play. and, the huge waste of space when you're pkaying a CD on the x-box is astounding. 95% of the screen taken up by poinless green globber, and a tiny visualisation which needs some awkwark keypress to get fullscreen. the ps2 has the basics. just a grey background, 6ish buttons and a track number and timer, and a pointless little cube. heck, i dont do pointless jibba jabber that i never need. aaannnyyhow im probably gonna get this thrown back at me

and i wont just buy it because of the Hz changes we left project gotham defaulted at 50hz because we were using cheapo TV's when we got it, and now we set it to 60hz when we use the nifty 28" in the living room. 💡

plus the fact i can put my ps2 on the side next to the TV while the huge beast that is the X-box has to reside on the floor

 

[code_kev]

So in fact, you only need to go in to the options every once in a while, which takes you what, 30 seconds. This is what you do, set it up, switch on, change, stick game in. There.

Now I agree, the xbox cd player is guady, but I care not, mine is modded so I use a FAR better one.

 

[chinko]

So in fact, you only need to go in to the options every once in a while, which takes you what, 30 seconds.

ummmm...yea lol

and if the PS3 ran on cartridges i would use it. heck, practically no loading times

ok, youve proved me a retard leave me alone


yay you agree on the CD player thing. ive played a modded X-box and found it better, if more crash prone

 

[213101]

So in fact, you only need to go in to the options every once in a while, which takes you what, 30 seconds. This is what you do, set it up, switch on, change, stick game in. There.

Now I agree, the xbox cd player is guady, but I care not, mine is modded so I use a FAR better one.

there you are trying to defend the xbox in every possible way again.

 

[code_kev]

Oh yes, there I am defending the xbox in EVERY possible way hahahahha. Oh man, this IS comedy.