mines R34
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We've got the GT3 Prize Car List here on our very own GTP, it's a great resource.
The Mine's Skyline is from the Trial Mountain Enduro and the Amateur All-Stars race. Do the save and reload trick on the all-stars race if you just want the car. Search for "save and reload trick" if you don't know what it is.
The Mine's Evo is out of the Ameteur League Turbo race, if you wan the other Mine's car in the game.
The Mine's Skyline is from the Trial Mountain Enduro and the Amateur All-Stars race. Do the save and reload trick on the all-stars race if you just want the car. Search for "save and reload trick" if you don't know what it is.
The Mine's Evo is out of the Ameteur League Turbo race, if you wan the other Mine's car in the game.
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Lancer out of Skyline, I pick Lancer all the way.
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- Small_Fryz
another good skyline is the nismo 400r, and the r tune and s tune, which can also be found by looking at the prize car list.
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Yeah if you are looking for a good car the Nismo 400R is a good car.
I fell in love with my calsonic skyline for some reason.
I think it just handles well, that and ive foudn that I can use it for a LOT of the races.
Hell i even used it for the tokyo endurance, when i could have just as easily saved about 20 min on that if i used one of the f-1 cars i have.
I think it just handles well, that and ive foudn that I can use it for a LOT of the races.
Hell i even used it for the tokyo endurance, when i could have just as easily saved about 20 min on that if i used one of the f-1 cars i have.
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i think the nismo 400r is one of the best cars in the game. i hate the mines evo, it so doesn't want to turn
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The Viper GTS/R Concept Car is my pick for best car in the game.
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- GTP_Renesis
Super Jamie
Nor does the Nismo 400R sometimes... the s-tune skyline has similar issues. I find most powerful skylines, when tuned to the hilt, are very difficult to turn, and hopeless at not running wide unless you drop an extra gear and dont use the throttle anytime before its going straight again.
Not so the R-tune.. best handling skyline out there at full power. I have a normal R34 V-spec tuned to 504bhp and it drives beautifully, better than a Lancer at that power level. Mines Skyline is close to the R-tune, but not as quick. The Mine's lancer was a disapointment - just a less-capable evo. Silver TME all the way
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- Tau88
Mine's Skyline GT-R is a very quick car, i watched the Best Motoring Lancer vs. Evo, and yeah it's all mighty Car!
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- Darkdeeds427
Actually, I have both set up similarily--only about 13 horsepower from each other-- and they are both very competent drivers with just a modicum of understeer.RenesisEvoNot so the R-tune.. best handling skyline out there at full power. I have a normal R34 V-spec tuned to 504bhp and it drives beautifully, better than a Lancer at that power level. Mines Skyline is close to the R-tune, but not as quick.
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- Small_Fryz
the fastest skyline is the R34 GTR, but thats because it has lots of power the mines and R tune handle very well when fully moded.
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Actually, I've found the R32 GTR V-SpecII faster around the track than the R34 V-SpecII. But if you're gonna get into the tuned R34, I think that might out rule the R32.Small_Fryz
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- Small_Fryz
yeah im talkin about fully modded
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smallfryz: my stg2 nismo400r makes more power than the my stg2 turbo r34 vspec2. i've never bothered buying more power, i like my torque and no boost spike
renesisevo: the r34 vspec2 is a compentant handling machine stock, just the right amount of turning, with understeer and oversteer pretty much on tap. but overpowers the tyres too much at high horsepower levels. to me, the nismo 400r is the next natural progression, it's like an r34 vspec2 but better in every way. it feels like it has much larger tyres for more grip, and the greater amount of (and adjustable) downforce helps considerably at higher speeds
the gtr lm car was a massive disappointment after driving the 400r for so long
i just won the r32 gtr s-tune last night so i haven't had a chance to play much with it, but i'm looking forward to it, and its stock high horsepower figure and light weight r32 body is promising
what little adventuring i've done into driving evos hasn't swayed me away from skylines. the evo4 is god awful to drive, they're the least sought after evo model in real life for good reason. the evo7 is far better, though i find its light weight difficult to take corners really fast at high speed, it seems you need a small amount of drift (proper drift, not power oversteer exhibitionism) and i usually end up going in too fast and overcooking it
the 6.5 (tme) is on my list of cars to have a serious try at, some even say its better than the 7, so you've definately piqued my curiosity
renesisevo: the r34 vspec2 is a compentant handling machine stock, just the right amount of turning, with understeer and oversteer pretty much on tap. but overpowers the tyres too much at high horsepower levels. to me, the nismo 400r is the next natural progression, it's like an r34 vspec2 but better in every way. it feels like it has much larger tyres for more grip, and the greater amount of (and adjustable) downforce helps considerably at higher speeds
the gtr lm car was a massive disappointment after driving the 400r for so long
i just won the r32 gtr s-tune last night so i haven't had a chance to play much with it, but i'm looking forward to it, and its stock high horsepower figure and light weight r32 body is promising
what little adventuring i've done into driving evos hasn't swayed me away from skylines. the evo4 is god awful to drive, they're the least sought after evo model in real life for good reason. the evo7 is far better, though i find its light weight difficult to take corners really fast at high speed, it seems you need a small amount of drift (proper drift, not power oversteer exhibitionism) and i usually end up going in too fast and overcooking it
the 6.5 (tme) is on my list of cars to have a serious try at, some even say its better than the 7, so you've definately piqued my curiosity
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Super Jamie
Agreed - the massive bodykit made it look silly, and it couldnt handle or drive nearly as well as a normal tuned R33. Not sure what maximum power was like, since I drove it once and left it to rot in my garage, but I doubt it's much above 600.
I may have to use some of the lessons learnt from the R-tune on the Mine's; I'm quite happy with my 400R; it understeers but to a level I can accept at 800-odd bhp. I just wish the R34 was like it was in GT2 - oversteer all the way
I do sometimes wonder what PD have done, since in real-life the R34 is only 4WD when cornering, and RWD in a straight line (or so I hear - correct me if im wrong). Something tells me that modelling the car as 4WD in the game, rather than RWD, means it has a lot of understeer to it. I would play with Skylines more, but GT4 is so close now it's hardly worth it. hehe Nissan Pao anyone?
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- Darkdeeds427
Maybe I am gifted, or just retarded(Super Jamie
), but I find odd cars like this and just make them work. With the GT-R LM, I won the PD Cup. It was perfect, if not a little nonchalant about its work, but it won every race fair and square. Set a new lap record, a new race record, and ate everybody's lunch on top of it.- 327
correct about the gtr lm power level, from memory even a stg2 r34 vspec2 makes more power. gee, that's certainly going to win le mans. not. you can definately make it "work". but i feel you could make a 400r work better and easier
r34 skylines have the ATTESA Eletronic Torque Split drive system which functions in rwd during normal driving, but distributes up to 50% of torque to the front wheels under wheelspin within 0.001 seconds. it can use the ABS system to monitor all wheels individually and ensure each wheel is getting the most grip it can. r32 gts-4 and GTR and r33 GTRs had this too
true awd cars generally handle like fwd cars until you exceed the grip limit of the tyres, then they hand like rwd cars. the my99 sti wrx in gt3 is a perfect example of this. my best mate's real life my99 handles like this too
r34 skylines have the ATTESA Eletronic Torque Split drive system which functions in rwd during normal driving, but distributes up to 50% of torque to the front wheels under wheelspin within 0.001 seconds. it can use the ABS system to monitor all wheels individually and ensure each wheel is getting the most grip it can. r32 gts-4 and GTR and r33 GTRs had this too
true awd cars generally handle like fwd cars until you exceed the grip limit of the tyres, then they hand like rwd cars. the my99 sti wrx in gt3 is a perfect example of this. my best mate's real life my99 handles like this too
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Super Jamie
I completely agree.
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- Small_Fryz
ive heard that the skylines (R34) are better in gt3 without VCD fitted, is this correct?
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- Small_Fryz
but with the altessia in the R34, it apparently works better than VCD
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so is this going off something you've read or been told or have you experimented yourself? is ATTESA accuately modelled in gt3? does installing a VCD controller into an awd skyline change the amount of drive that ATTESA puts to the front wheels under rear grip loss? or does it turn the car into full time awd with the amount of torque split you specify with the VCD? what's better mean? what are you trying to do with the car? what's the setup? what's your driving style? what race are you trying to win outright or make challenging?
it's a pretty open ended question - "does installing component x make the car better?" - why don't you use that division 1 racing skill of yours to put an awd skyline (or all the skylines) through its paces, then try with vcd controller and one or two different torque splits tell us your own findings instead of asking questions which can't realistically be answered
it's a pretty open ended question - "does installing component x make the car better?" - why don't you use that division 1 racing skill of yours to put an awd skyline (or all the skylines) through its paces, then try with vcd controller and one or two different torque splits tell us your own findings instead of asking questions which can't realistically be answered
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- Small_Fryz
okies, i will give it ago and see what i can do. I will report back to this thread at a later date with my findings. Fully tuned R34 at midfield with T8 tires clean laps. With VCD and without.
EDIT!!
My my i have gotten better, well with VCD i managed to match my previous best 1:03.8xx within 15 laps. There isnt too much room for improvement in this lap though.
Tried without VCD (everything else the same) and man its now a FR that doesnt oversteer as much as a 1072hp FR should. Hardly any power understeer and its soo much easier to drive and be smooth with. within 5 - 8 laps i got a 1:03.4xx with more room for improvement.
I will post settings if people want them.
Conclusion, Definetly 100% better with no VCD installed. The car handles soo much better now and well id say 1:02.xxx is possible around midfield in a R34
EDIT!!
My my i have gotten better, well with VCD i managed to match my previous best 1:03.8xx within 15 laps. There isnt too much room for improvement in this lap though.
Tried without VCD (everything else the same) and man its now a FR that doesnt oversteer as much as a 1072hp FR should. Hardly any power understeer and its soo much easier to drive and be smooth with. within 5 - 8 laps i got a 1:03.4xx with more room for improvement.
I will post settings if people want them.
Conclusion, Definetly 100% better with no VCD installed. The car handles soo much better now and well id say 1:02.xxx is possible around midfield in a R34
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excellent research, well done that's a bloody quick lap around midfield too! what torque split % did you try the VCD on?
that's a bloody quick lap around midfield too! what torque split % did you try the VCD on?
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- Small_Fryz
i tried the Torque spilt at 15 i think.
Anyhow today with out VCD installed and some setting tweaks I got a 1:02.872 clean so its definetly better with out VCD.
Anyhow today with out VCD installed and some setting tweaks I got a 1:02.872 clean so its definetly better with out VCD.
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prodriver: no it doesn't. the r32-r34 attesa is rwd-only until the wheels lose torque, then the electronic torque split can put up to 50% of the engine's torque independantly to the front wheels. the g35 skyline has a vastly different torque split, varying from 50/50 to 25/75 more like an audi rs4. i've even read you can change it 0/100 rwd if you want but they're not in gt3 
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