Mission Impossible : Rogue Nation (July 31st 2015)
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The trailer looks amazing. I can't wait to go see it.
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"Agent Hunt, six months ago we received intelligence that the producers of the James Bond films are intending to make another instalment in the franchise. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to make your own film and release it before James Bond can. As usual, you can choose any other agents to serve as members of your team, but you're stuck with Hawkeye. Again."
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Lol @prisonermonkeys, you don't seem to like this one.
Yep, that car chase seems crazy too. That scene where Ethan Hunt hangs by the plane door, that's Tom Cruise himself doing the stunt.
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No, Paramount have openly admitted that they brought the release forward from December to July to avoid competing with Spectre and The Force Awakens. It's not uncommon to try and avoid the box office juggernauts like that, but what is unusual is that Mission: Impossible is a summer blockbuster and Ghost Protocol did very well at the box office. I suppose Paramount might let Rogue Nation compete if it was up against Spectre or The Force Awakens, but clearly not both. And with Avengers: Age of Ultron releasing in April, they probably didn't have a whole lot of choice for an alternate release. It's the right decision by Paramount, but it's ultimately less than ideal.
Also, you would feel the same way if you had to work with Hawkeye, whose superpowers include pouting and not being Jason Bourne.
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Well I mean it actually looks good like Protocol did so I might give it a go. But I mean I'm still bogged down from how terrible two and three were.
I'm surprised how they moved this forward since it wasn't on the radar I'm guessing for a lot of movie fanatics into this genre but @prisonermonkeys has a point about avoiding clashes. I see it winning the month of July at the box office, I think Ant-Man will be strong but not MI strong.
Too bad a few other movies prior to it will have either be billion dollar box office smashes or close to it. (Looking at you F7, Avengers, and Mad Max)
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Though I recall Minions will be out at that time (which I am for sure seeing thanks to my kids) and the box office predictions for that have it as a top ten movie in revenue for the year. Which MI doesn't even make the list of on most places. So take that as you wish. I think this will be a great box office smash and fun to watch, but how fun compared to others is yet to be seen.
I'm surprised how they moved this forward since it wasn't on the radar I'm guessing for a lot of movie fanatics into this genre but @prisonermonkeys has a point about avoiding clashes. I see it winning the month of July at the box office, I think Ant-Man will be strong but not MI strong.
Too bad a few other movies prior to it will have either be billion dollar box office smashes or close to it. (Looking at you F7, Avengers, and Mad Max)
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Though I recall Minions will be out at that time (which I am for sure seeing thanks to my kids) and the box office predictions for that have it as a top ten movie in revenue for the year. Which MI doesn't even make the list of on most places. So take that as you wish. I think this will be a great box office smash and fun to watch, but how fun compared to others is yet to be seen.
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I doubt Mad Max 4 or Furious 7 can break the one billion mark. They might be able to, but they are by no means certain to the way Spectre, Age of Ultron and The Force Awakens are.
I think Paramount know Rogue Nation can't compete on that level, and I doubt they will try and position it to. One billion in box office takings might be out of the question, but I don't think that five hundred million is, so they will no doubt aim for as much. Depending on whether Tom Cruise wants to do another and on how well Rogue Nation fares, one billion might not be out of the question for Mission: Impossible 6 or a seventh film. Right now, I would say their fiercest competition will come from The Bourne Verb-Subject Disagreement (I'm assuming that will be the title), which is slated for a 2016 release.
I think Paramount know Rogue Nation can't compete on that level, and I doubt they will try and position it to. One billion in box office takings might be out of the question, but I don't think that five hundred million is, so they will no doubt aim for as much. Depending on whether Tom Cruise wants to do another and on how well Rogue Nation fares, one billion might not be out of the question for Mission: Impossible 6 or a seventh film. Right now, I would say their fiercest competition will come from The Bourne Verb-Subject Disagreement (I'm assuming that will be the title), which is slated for a 2016 release.
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I think it's still possible for F7 to hit 1 billion. The Paul Walker factor has a strong influence on this one. Mad Max i'm not so sure, it's release is close to Age of Ultron.
I think this MI will do just fine. I find myself being surprised on how well Ghost Protocol did when it came out. I thought it's gonna fail because there was no hype for it (at least from what i remember back then).
I think this MI will do just fine. I find myself being surprised on how well Ghost Protocol did when it came out. I thought it's gonna fail because there was no hype for it (at least from what i remember back then).
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Looking at recent trends in box office takings between both franchises, Rogue Nation stands to make a better chance of making one billion dollars than Fast 7.
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Disappointed by 3 and 4, at worst I'll enjoy 5 because it appears to be a two hour long BMW commercial.
For me it will never get better than "This isn't Mission: Difficult Mr. Hunt, It's Mission: Imposssible, difficult should be a walk in the park."
For me it will never get better than "This isn't Mission: Difficult Mr. Hunt, It's Mission: Imposssible, difficult should be a walk in the park."
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Well could be, i just think Fast 7 and only Fast 7 could make one billion due to Paul Walker's final film and his death. If he's still alive i don't think it'll reach one billion.
I found 4 to be surprisingly fun to watch. I was never fond of MI franchise though i love the first one. Dislike 2 and didn't watch 3. Gave 4 a chance and i'm surprised of how much i like it. The dust storm car chase was great, the humor was good, the final fight in the car park was cool.
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The box office takings have been growing at a rate of about $100 million per film. But in order to make one billion, Fast 7 needs to make $220 million on Fast 6, and the series hasn't seen that growth since Fast 5. I don't think that Walker's death will be enough to drive it past one billion dollars because the domestic takings aren't growing at a fast enough rate, and the international marketing campaign has been very subdued. And it would be pretty cynical to count on Walker's death to get a bigger box office taking.
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Looks good actually, intrigued now.
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Yeah i guess you're right. What do you think it will reach ? My guess around 600-700 million.
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Trailer two:
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...It looks good, but some of it...meh.
Oh and by the way, I seem to remember you saying something about Fast 7 not hitting a billion dollar mark...
Is it time for a "foot in mouth"?
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And a sad day for cinema it was.
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Another new poster:
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There's only so much that you can fit on a film poster.
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io9's exclusive look at Mission Impossible
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Saw it tonight. It wasn't as stylish as Ghost Protocol, but it did address some of its flaws. There was only one bit of silliness, mostly because the film doesn't explain itself too well, but there's one scene that feels like a rip-off from Quantum of Solace, which is odd because it feels like a light version of Spectre.
The only real problem is the ending. It's revealed that a lot of the set-up with the IMF being disbanded was an elaborate ploy to infiltrate the Syndicate, which undoes a lot of the sub-plot involving Alec Baldwin. If he knew all along, why is he hamming it up? It's one thing to call it a ruse to misdirect the Syndicate, but there's a few scenes where it's not needed because the only other people in the room are the people who know it's a ruse. The only person he's fooling is the audience, which makes him look inept and undermines the idea that he can orchestrate this elaborate scheme in the first place.
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Just got back from it. Very well done, and it's a shame it's likely to fly under the radar for a lot of people - and unlikely to make the massive pile of money that the the last one did - because I think it sets the bar very high for a certain upcoming spy film.
This year has been a surprisingly good one for films I've seen in theatres; Ultron ranks near the very bottom, while this and Inside Out have been two early favourites.
This year has been a surprisingly good one for films I've seen in theatres; Ultron ranks near the very bottom, while this and Inside Out have been two early favourites.
I definitely took that final scene to mean that Baldwin's character was not in on the ruse. I actually don't even think it was a ruse, I took it to mean the CIA was serious about wanting it disbanded, and the only reason he has the change of heart that he does is because he witnessed Hunt and Co's work first-hand. He's now decided he wants in, and thus, new secretary.
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I don't think Spectre has much to worry about - Sam Mendes is one of the best directors to have taken the reins of the franchise, and Rogue Nation shares a lot on common with the Bond films:
- The opera scene mirrors the Tosca scene in Quantum of Solace, and a scene from The Living Daylights where Bond stages the assassination of a senior KGB figure before the actual assassin can.
- There's an imposing white-blond henchman who towers over the hero and is impervious to pain, a trope established with Red Grant in From Russia with Love.
- The villain is a strategic mastermind who manipulates global events and plays intelligence services off each other, which mirror's the literary Blofeld's backstory.
- There is a political "villain" trying to shut the IMF down, just as Dowar tried to shut MI6 down in Skyfall.
- There's an imposing white-blond henchman who towers over the hero and is impervious to pain, a trope established with Red Grant in From Russia with Love.
- The villain is a strategic mastermind who manipulates global events and plays intelligence services off each other, which mirror's the literary Blofeld's backstory.
- There is a political "villain" trying to shut the IMF down, just as Dowar tried to shut MI6 down in Skyfall.
I think that's certainly what they want the committee to believe - covering up an embarrassing oversight by claiming that it was all a ruse, and Alec Baldwin is one of the few actors who can get the balance between smarmy self-confidence and flattering denial right to sell it.
But if Hunley is the new Secretary, and has been since Tom Wilkinson's character was killed off, then he was the one who told Brandt to keep quiet in the first place. He had to pursue Hunt to give him deniability and to help sell the idea that the IMF was dead and buried. But I think he's taking it too far, and it's only really there to fool the audience.
But if Hunley is the new Secretary, and has been since Tom Wilkinson's character was killed off, then he was the one who told Brandt to keep quiet in the first place. He had to pursue Hunt to give him deniability and to help sell the idea that the IMF was dead and buried. But I think he's taking it too far, and it's only really there to fool the audience.
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