Mixing tires is bad?

[ismejks]

For the all drifter in GT5, WHY so many ppl using both hard tyre for front and rear, since it will lean to understeer.
but as i recognize that real drifter always put a mixing tire which has more grip in front and hard on rear.

Here are some reference from wiki (drag to tires section)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)

 

[articzap]

More grip the better! =]

 

[Rovered78]

i find it mostly oversteers to bad. I go for the faster 4 wheel slide (not awd)

 

[AussieStig117]

I only go with more front grip when car needs it. Sometimes it gives you to much grip and it can ruin a well balanced car like my M3

 

[WeeblBull]

Radial and cross-ply on your car has bad news written all over it.

 

[TwinturboCH]

For the all drifter in GT5, WHY so many ppl using both hard tyre for front and rear, since it will lean to understeer.
but as i recognize that real drifter always put a mixing tire which has more grip in front and hard on rear.

Here are some reference from wiki (drag to tires section)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)

That Wiki article is total rubbish. Any pro drifter knows that in order to have a car which can be driven at the absolute limit, you need BALANCE, to get balance, you need the same type of tyres on the front AND the rear. The only people who put grippy tyres on the fronts are people who are just starting out.

It really gets my goat how people think drifting is just about making a car oversteer ALL the time. The best type of drift car is in fact one with a slight bias towards understeer, that way the oversteer balance is created by the driver, who can be more aggresive with style as the car does not want to swap ends every chance it gets.

Put simply, if you are using grippy front and crap rear tyres, stop it, you are only teaching yourself bad habits.

Edit: that article is actually clearly talking about noobs as it then starts talking about using 15's etc. I never use anything less than 18's because I want more grip.

 

[StangBanger302]

That is the skill of drfting: being able to keep all tires the same and slide around however you feel is good

 

[speedthrill]

That Wiki article is total rubbish. Any pro drifter knows that in order to have a car which can be driven at the absolute limit, you need BALANCE, to get balance, you need the same type of tyres on the front AND the rear. The only people who put grippy tyres on the fronts are people who are just starting out.

It really gets my goat how people think drifting is just about making a car oversteer ALL the time. The best type of drift car is in fact one with a slight bias towards understeer, that way the oversteer balance is created by the driver, who can be more aggresive with style as the car does not want to swap ends every chance it gets.

Put simply, if you are using grippy front and crap rear tyres, stop it, you are only teaching yourself bad habits.

Edit: that article is actually clearly talking about noobs as it then starts talking about using 15's etc. I never use anything less than 18's because I want more grip.

This is very well said.
It's shows too that alot of noobs in the drift world of GT choose 4WD and do the tyre thing described just above. Offcourse that car will slide (yes read: slide)...

I drift RWD with comfort hards only, front and rear. And boy if i put more grippy tyres on the front, i could'nt drift and keep my car in an angle for more then several seconds.

 

[Heath_1]

Sometimes I mix tyres sometimes not. Usually my tyre of choice is Sports Hard front and rear. Ocasionally I'll have Sports Hard at the front and Comfort Soft at the rear, which gives me a bit better control during long drifts but it can be a bit difficult to get straight again on that tyre setup.

 

[ismejks]

That Wiki article is total rubbish. Any pro drifter knows that in order to have a car which can be driven at the absolute limit, you need BALANCE, to get balance, you need the same type of tyres on the front AND the rear. The only people who put grippy tyres on the fronts are people who are just starting out.

It really gets my goat how people think drifting is just about making a car oversteer ALL the time. The best type of drift car is in fact one with a slight bias towards understeer, that way the oversteer balance is created by the driver, who can be more aggresive with style as the car does not want to swap ends every chance it gets.

Put simply, if you are using grippy front and crap rear tyres, stop it, you are only teaching yourself bad habits.

Edit: that article is actually clearly talking about noobs as it then starts talking about using 15's etc. I never use anything less than 18's because I want more grip.

But wouldn't that with both hard tires setup and without using Handbreak is impossible to make oversteer.

 

[DaveM-sport]

Real drift cars have much better lock so you can get far more opposite lock on than you can in the game on most cars so you need to rely on the front end to wash out a little bit in the game when pulling off big angles and good entries.

But the more balanced the car is the better obviously as the best drifts will always have 4 wheels slipping together. With all the stories of how drifting started with "drift racing" down the mountains, drivers would have been intially using slight 4 wheel drifts as it would have been fastest way around the corner.

Then drifting started as they got the rear stepping out even further to show off.

 

[Nismo34]

That is the skill of drfting: being able to keep all tires the same and slide around however you feel is good

Precisly why my '10 Camaro has Comfort mediums front and back and sometimes (depending on track) I'll have comfort hards on front and back.