modified production car top speed

[prepackagedmeat]

I got a Dodge Viper GTS 99 up to 251 mph, and I wan't to see if anyone else can top that with a production car. No nitrous, you must use medium sport tires, and all testing needs to be done on the test course.

My Cizeta v16 got to 240 flat, but I had to tweak the full customize transmission alot to find the right setting.


This is my first post, so take it easy if you think it's stupid.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

There is a 300 mph thread, but nitrous is used there, so I think the record car in that thread is a Mitsubishi 3000GT with 318.xxx mph

This sounds more in the line of my interestfield though, since I really don´t care for N2O. I´ll have a go and see what happens!

Cheers!

 

[Leonidae]

the current record with Mitsu 3000GT might be revised, if DE accepts it.. 324.50 mph, made by Rac3rX.. of course, he was and is banned again, so.. *shrugs*

 

[Mt. Lynx]

ya, I new that, but since DE hadn´t confirmed that run yet, I didn´t want to claim something that might not be true. Hmm, well, I didn´t check the confirmation on the 318 run either, so that could be a lie aswell...

 

[B_B_B]

wow that fast in a mitsu any clue if that was a 1 lap at the test track or more than 1 lap?

 

[prepackagedmeat]

Wow, I never would have thought a 3000gt could get to that speed. I was thinking like a Ford GT, Saleen S7, or maybe a Zonda would be the fastest.

 

[Dave_George]

Fully tuned Ruf CTR is mighty quick...899BHP and something like 260mph on the Sarthe straight.....might have another go when i get chance!

 

[Mt. Lynx]

The mitsu was run with N2O, laddies! WITH N2O the fastes cars I´ve seen is the Lotus Esprit 350 and the Mitsu 3000GT. And they were run at the topspeed test on test course, from where it start, to where it ends, IE no further than the test itself.
Without N2O, as this thread states as a requirement, I´d give the TVR speed 12 a dime for the top spot. Perhaps the Cadillac Cien is a contender too.

 

[orveo]

The mitsu was run with N2O, laddies! WITH N2O the fastes cars I´ve seen is the Lotus Esprit 350 and the Mitsu 3000GT. And they were run at the topspeed test on test course, from where it start, to where it ends, IE no further than the test itself.
Without N2O, as this thread states as a requirement, I´d give the TVR speed 12 a dime for the top spot. Perhaps the Cadillac Cien is a contender too.

don`t forget the vipers

 

[prepackagedmeat]

The mitsu was run with N2O, laddies! WITH N2O the fastes cars I´ve seen is the Lotus Esprit 350 and the Mitsu 3000GT. And they were run at the topspeed test on test course, from where it start, to where it ends, IE no further than the test itself.
Without N2O, as this thread states as a requirement, I´d give the TVR speed 12 a dime for the top spot. Perhaps the Cadillac Cien is a contender too.

I tested the '96 3000gt vr-4 fully tuned for top speed. I have found dropping the suspension, going with stiffer settings, and removing the downforce helps gain mph. The best I could muster without nitrous was 243, and for the heck of it I used nitrous and got 284. These were all with sport medium tires.

I hate to say it ,but I kind of doubt the legitamacy of the aformentioned 3000gt top speed.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

I tested the '96 3000gt vr-4 fully tuned for top speed. I have found dropping the suspension, going with stiffer settings, and removing the downforce helps gain mph. The best I could muster without nitrous was 243, and for the heck of it I used nitrous and got 284. These were all with sport medium tires.

I hate to say it ,but I kind of doubt the legitamacy of the aformentioned 3000gt top speed.

There are videos posted of the record runs in the three hundred miles per hour thread.
And I have no idea how they pulled it off. It is a certainty that adding downforce to the LMP/group C cars will make them go faster, but I don´t know about the roadcars. I´ll try some out and see how fast they can go.

And as for the vipers, I´d say that the Japanese turbocars (3000GT, Supra, 300ZX) outruns all of them, simply because the Vipers are to heavy.

Isn´t it time for the threadstarter to put up some rules? No N2O is already stated, but how about wings and tyres? No wheelies I assume, but those are hard to do in the roadcars, although it is possible.

 

[prepackagedmeat]

Ok, here are the rules

-No nitrous
-No "wheelie trick"
-Medium Sport (S2) tires only
-Wings allowed
-Production cars only
-All drivetrain, brake, engine, exhaust, turbo, weight, and suspension mods are allowed and encouraged.

So get to work boys and girls.
Do many girls play GT4? Maybe not.

 

[Tornado]

I tested the '96 3000gt vr-4 fully tuned for top speed. I have found dropping the suspension, going with stiffer settings, and removing the downforce helps gain mph. The best I could muster without nitrous was 243, and for the heck of it I used nitrous and got 284. These were all with sport medium tires.

I hate to say it ,but I kind of doubt the legitamacy of the aformentioned 3000gt top speed.

Using the '96 was the first problem. The '98 can be tuned for more power and it weighs less. The second problem was stiffening the suspension. The 3rd problem was lowering the downforce all the way. My 3000GT (though I won't go into specifics) had full downforce rear and a little up front (it wont wheelie). The 4th was dropping the suspension front and rear. I raised mine front and dropped it rear. Also, was your 3000GT a 6.2 mile one? That adds about 45 BHP to the car.

 

[prepackagedmeat]

Using the '96 was the first problem. The '98 can be tuned for more power and it weighs less. The second problem was stiffening the suspension. The 3rd problem was lowering the downforce all the way. My 3000GT (though I won't go into specifics) had full downforce rear and a little up front (it wont wheelie). The 4th was dropping the suspension front and rear. I raised mine front and dropped it rear. Also, was your 3000GT a 6.2 mile one? That adds about 45 BHP to the car.

I just tested with and without downforce. With full downforce on rear and slight front downforce my average 1st corner speed was 228 with and exit speed of 226, top speed 238. With 0 downforce, I got average 1st corner speed of 235, exit 234 , top 244. More downforce=more drag. More drag= lower speed

With the suspension I found some difference, both topped out at about 245, although I will admit your general setting did feel a little better, and left the corner faster, resulting in faster lap time but only slight mph gain. The 3000gt is heavy and less weight on the front helps corner speed. I am corrected

My thought process regarding the stance of the car has been disproven, it seems. I thought low all around would be much better than low rear high front, but I found little difference. The fact is a few millimeters dosn't make a huge difference.
Drag was the main concern for me, the air flowing under the car would be reduced by lower stance. High front/low rear would ,in theory, cause excess drag. More testing is needed indeed

This was all done with my 96 3000gt with equal tranny settings, tires, ect.
Please give spec of your setting so I can try it
Your suspension settings were better, but my downforce settings were better

Test this and reply with your findings if you have nothing else to do

Thanks for the suspension help

 

[prepackagedmeat]

the current record with Mitsu 3000GT might be revised, if DE accepts it.. 324.50 mph, made by Rac3rX.. of course, he was and is banned again, so.. *shrugs*

Why was he banned uh, again?

 

[Tornado]

I just tested with and without downforce. With full downforce on rear and slight front downforce my average 1st corner speed was 228 with and exit speed of 226, top speed 238. With 0 downforce, I got average 1st corner speed of 235, exit 234 , top 244. More downforce=more drag. More drag= lower speed

How high were your running in the turns? Like, top of the bank, or down low? Also, what tires were you using?

With the suspension I found some difference, both topped out at about 245, although I will admit your general setting did feel a little better, and left the corner faster, resulting in faster lap time but only slight mph gain. The 3000gt is heavy and less weight on the front helps corner speed. I am corrected

Again, how high were you runing in the bank? Withn a softer suspension, you want to start out at the top, go to the bottom, and end up at the top again.

My thought process regarding the stance of the car has been disproven, it seems. I thought low all around would be much better than low rear high front, but I found little difference. The fact is a few millimeters dosn't make a huge difference.
Drag was the main concern for me, the air flowing under the car would be reduced by lower stance. High front/low rear would ,in theory, cause excess drag. More testing is needed indeed

In theory, low front/low rear (or, even better, low front high rear), would be better in getting out a top speed. However, like centrifigal forces from banks, this is an area that GT4 does not do very well. When combined with high rear downforce, the lower rear end of the car (in addition to making it harder to turn) makes it so when you are going through the banks that very little air gets under the car (apparently), resulting in less drag. The problem is, that unlike the Lotus Esprit, which will only run well in the high banks, the 3000GT likes to start high, hit the apex and end high, much like the Chaparal 2D.

This was all done with my 96 3000gt with equal tranny settings, tires, ect.
Please give spec of your setting so I can try it
Your suspension settings were better, but my downforce settings were better

Test this and reply with your findings if you have nothing else to do

Thanks for the suspension help

My settings are basically this: soft front/rear susp, Highest front/lowest rear, Super-Soft front tires/Medium rears and max rear downforce. The car also only uses 5 gears, with 6th being reserved for nitrous runs.

Why was he banned uh, again?

He was an ass towards everyone who didn't believe him, and he was constantly flaming people for not agreeing with him.

 

[prepackagedmeat]

I ran the banks in the area darkened by tires so it would be equal for all setting, which is of course not ideal, but I lost speed when I got off the steep banking.

Like I said in the rules sport mediums

I did run faster with no downforce at all. Even in the turns there was a noticable difference. I could feel the engine fighting drag with the downforce at full rear light front.

The looser (high front, low rear) suspension was superior, resulting in higher exit speed.

I will try your settings and check it out, I do not want to sound like I doubt you. You seem to have a great understanding for GT4
Thanks, Tornado

 

[Tornado]

I ran the banks in the area darkened by tires so it would be equal for all setting, which is of course not ideal, but I lost speed when I got off the steep banking.

Like I said in the rules sport mediums

I did run faster with no downforce at all. Even in the turns there was a noticable difference. I could feel the engine fighting drag with the downforce at full rear light front.

The looser (high front, low rear) suspension was superior, resulting in higher exit speed.

I will try your settings and check it out, I do not want to sound like I doubt you. You seem to have a great understanding for GT4
Thanks, Tornado

When you were going into the turns, what gear were you in? What about on turn exit? My transmission is probably set up vastly different than yours (as I said, I basically only have a 5 speed and only use 6th gear for nitrous runs.) I'll try it sometimes with no rear downforce.

 

[prepackagedmeat]

I entered and exited the turns in 6th gear. I found a point where the engine doesn't have enough power to over come wind resistance even with the gear change in the perfect area of the powerband. That was 245mph.

 

[Tornado]

I entered and exited the turns in 6th gear. I found a point where the engine doesn't have enough power to over come wind resistance even with the gear change in the perfect area of the powerband. That was 245mph.

Mines different in that it goes into the turn with a smidgen of 4th gear left and exits the turn at around 6250 RPM in 5th. Try doing it in a lower gear. In some cases, less gear actually is better. Does your car stop accelerating right after the gear change?

 

[kursplat]

Here are my top Speeds all with posted videos.

Race Car LSR
368.74mph - GT-One

Race Car No NoS LSR
320.79mph - GT-One

Production Car LSR
324.55mph - GTO VR4 '95 6.2 mile edition

Production Car No NoS S2 LSR
260.05mph - Viper SRT-10

Official/Unoficial or or not, they are the fastes speeds recorded in GT4 for each class.

My lates is the Production Car No NoS S2 LSR

R series tires only add 1 or 2 mph.

Here is the Video.

Click Here to Watch the PCNN S2 260.05mph LSR

 

[Tornado]

I see no reason to spam 2 topics with your sooned to be banned again theatricals, as I'm sure no-one in this thread cares either.

 

[kursplat]

Well he wanted the fastes Production car on S2 tires, I gave it!

You just dont like me because I hold all the REAL LSR's and can take any of your precious ones away (Hell ALL of them) in one afternoon. (All the LSR's that Dont mean Quat [faster inline 6 and Cien, ect]) Whoop te doo, they aint even LSR's.

 

[Eche1on]

Mph, i thought this was the Europea.....Nvm

 

[Tornado]

Well he wanted the fastes Production car on S2 tires, I gave it!

You just dont like me because I hold all the REAL LSR's and can take any of your precious ones away (Hell ALL of them) in one afternoon. (All the LSR's that Dont mean Quat [faster inline 6 and Cien, ect]) Whoop te doo, they aint even LSR's.

No, I don't like you because you remind me of what I used to be: a shovanistic, arrogant a-hole who doesn't know when to quit. I'm sorry you take this game so damned seriously, and even more so that you think everyone else does too. I'm in 10th grade, preparing for college. The last thing that I care about is achievements in a came, much less ones that no-one will remember in 3 years, or even 1 year. I'm going to bed now, and by the time I wake up tommorow, you'll be banned again, so I won't even have to continue this conversation. Good night.

 

[prepackagedmeat]

Mines different in that it goes into the turn with a smidgen of 4th gear left and exits the turn at around 6250 RPM in 5th. Try doing it in a lower gear. In some cases, less gear actually is better. Does your car stop accelerating right after the gear change?

No it will pull through 6th. When it shifts, it starts 6 at about 5500 rpm, which is where the torque/ horsepower spike is. In the end of fifth I'm at 217 When my engine reaches the point where it can't defeat the drag force I'm at 245.

Remember this is not a 6.2 mile car, and its a 96. People say the 98 is faster. I'm still waiting for a 6.2 mile, '98 vr-4. Then I'll try tuning that for top speed.

 

[fast_cars202120]

MLML

I got a Dodge Viper GTS 99 up to 251 mph, and I wan't to see if anyone else can top that with a production car. No nitrous, you must use medium sport tires, and all testing needs to be done on the test course.

My Cizeta v16 got to 240 flat, but I had to tweak the full customize transmission alot to find the right setting.


This is my first post, so take it easy if you think it's stupid.

TRYING OUT MY VIPER RIGHT NOW....sounds like a honda lol.
249.23 first run!not even messed with it much...
210 n 5th gear...252.1 yeeehaaa lol im using the concept car 👍