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My 1000m car
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mafia_boy
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Rule #1 in sprints: TCS is your friend. 
Rule #2: Hit the NOS from the moment you leave the line and in some cases before the green light hits.
Rule #3: Lots of downforce!!
So fit a wing!!
Rule #4: Play with your ballast and front/rear distribution.
Apart from that you seem to be doing alright. I do have to say though that LSD Decel also does play a factor sometimes as the car can move slightly during gearchanges, especially on the test course. Also, do you have a VCD fitted?? Changes in that also help shave the hundreths off.
But I can't understand 12 degrees of camber being needed and I know that ride heights don't have decimals.
After that, get a time, take a photo and put it in the 1000m challenge thread.
Rule #2: Hit the NOS from the moment you leave the line and in some cases before the green light hits.
Rule #3: Lots of downforce!!
So fit a wing!!Rule #4: Play with your ballast and front/rear distribution.
Apart from that you seem to be doing alright. I do have to say though that LSD Decel also does play a factor sometimes as the car can move slightly during gearchanges, especially on the test course. Also, do you have a VCD fitted?? Changes in that also help shave the hundreths off.
But I can't understand 12 degrees of camber being needed and I know that ride heights don't have decimals.
After that, get a time, take a photo and put it in the 1000m challenge thread.
Rotary Junkie
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As wrong as it sounds, toss traction control on it, R1s up front, jack the nose up as far as possible, and spray from the get with full throttle.
Launch may suffer, but the trap speed SHOULD increase dramatically. Also, zero out the front camber. 20 % forward bias on the VCD.
Launch may suffer, but the trap speed SHOULD increase dramatically. Also, zero out the front camber. 20 % forward bias on the VCD.
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Rule #1 in sprints: TCS is your friend.
Rule #2: Hit the NOS from the moment you leave the line and in some cases before the green light hits.
Rule #3: Lots of downforce!!
Rule #4: Play with your ballast and front/rear distribution.
Apart from that you seem to be doing alright. I do have to say though that LSD Decel also does play a factor sometimes as the car can move slightly during gearchanges, especially on the test course. Also, do you have a VCD fitted?? Changes in that also help shave the hundreths off.
But I can't understand 12 degrees of camber being needed and I know that ride heights don't have decimals.
After that, get a time, take a photo and put it in the 1000m challenge thread.
TCS is not up for discussion. LOL. It stays off. I will try to spray right out of the gate but im going to spin like a bitch but I will try to play with the throttle while I do it. I have a feeling this is going to make my 400m times worse. A rule I go buy is every tnth you knock off in your 60', you double that at the other end of the track (speaking reality drag racing at the track). I dont know if that applies to this game that well but I just got this game and have been playing with things based on knowledge upstairs from my drag racing days. I dont think downforce will help me out from a dig but I guess I will give that a try. I am not having traction problems after 2nd gear so i think the downforce will hurt me in the long run unless downforce helps from 0-70mph, which it shouldnt but this is a game. My VCD is set at 50/50 and I find it the best set at that.
I am going to check out the 1000, challenge thread right now to see my competiton.
Rotary Junkie
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Thing is, the big dogs run TCS to help launch there.
I used to stay away from it, but I promptly got left behind.
I used to stay away from it, but I promptly got left behind.
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When driving without TCS, it takes skill. Its more of a challenge. Mine as well run automatic and maybe some training wheels if your going to use TCS
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Ok WTF?
I added a wing and turned downforce all the way up. I started doing 400m pulls and my best was a 8.3. So I decided to make one pass the entire 1000m and pulled a 14.8 on a 8.4 400m . WTF? Doesnt make any sense at all. I wasnt spinning down the track at all so how would a wing get me faster down the track? The wing gave me worse start off traction but got me down the track faster. I am going to tinker with the suspesnion and get back to you guys.
I added a wing and turned downforce all the way up. I started doing 400m pulls and my best was a 8.3. So I decided to make one pass the entire 1000m and pulled a 14.8 on a 8.4 400m . WTF? Doesnt make any sense at all. I wasnt spinning down the track at all so how would a wing get me faster down the track? The wing gave me worse start off traction but got me down the track faster. I am going to tinker with the suspesnion and get back to you guys.
Rotary Junkie
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Most definitely, and that's why none of my circuit cars have traction control at all.
However, no matter how skilled you are, you'll never be as good at finding traction as the computer. I used to go by the rules of no TCS ever on a drag car, it's for wussies, blah blah blah. Then I promptly got eaten a good few times.
So while I commend you on having the balls to not use traction control, you'll never be able to take a record on the 1000m without it.
EDIT: Oh, and winging AWD cars tends to have strange effects sometimes.
mafia_boy
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If you're obsessed with running it without TCS, then try the SUV category in the 1/4 mile thread, all cars have to be without TCS.
It's nothing about needing training wheels, it's about getting the lowest times possible, and the best way to do it is with a combo of TCS/Downforce/Ballast. I've got the proof in my pudding with times in both the 1000m & 400m leaderboards. And this game has a good feel for drag takeoffs.....I know in GT4 for every tenth saved in 60ft., it usually increases more after the 400m mark, so I focus a lot on my 0-100km/h times.
Try using no TCS with an FF car. With no TCS and 500hp through the fronts, there is no way you'd get close to an 11sec pass, let alone the 11.7 cutoff for 15th!! While not running TCS is a good helper to teach you how to takeoff properly, you will never get the quickest times without it in the major categories.
On the 1000m front, I know I run a moderate amount of TCS just so I know my launch absolutely rips off the line. Rotary Junkie however has got the top end sorted. On the 400m front, depending on the car, the TCS gets increased a bit more. But too much TCS slows the car down worse than if it doesn't have TCS at all!!
*added bit* The reason you got a 14.8 instead of 15.0 is because you ARE getting more traction from the downforce slamming the ass end onto the tarmac a lot better at top end. So you're getting the full 850+hp through your wheels, not around 700hp and having the wheelspeed going too fast for the actual pace of the car.
It's nothing about needing training wheels, it's about getting the lowest times possible, and the best way to do it is with a combo of TCS/Downforce/Ballast. I've got the proof in my pudding with times in both the 1000m & 400m leaderboards. And this game has a good feel for drag takeoffs.....I know in GT4 for every tenth saved in 60ft., it usually increases more after the 400m mark, so I focus a lot on my 0-100km/h times.
Try using no TCS with an FF car. With no TCS and 500hp through the fronts, there is no way you'd get close to an 11sec pass, let alone the 11.7 cutoff for 15th!! While not running TCS is a good helper to teach you how to takeoff properly, you will never get the quickest times without it in the major categories.
On the 1000m front, I know I run a moderate amount of TCS just so I know my launch absolutely rips off the line. Rotary Junkie however has got the top end sorted. On the 400m front, depending on the car, the TCS gets increased a bit more. But too much TCS slows the car down worse than if it doesn't have TCS at all!!
*added bit* The reason you got a 14.8 instead of 15.0 is because you ARE getting more traction from the downforce slamming the ass end onto the tarmac a lot better at top end. So you're getting the full 850+hp through your wheels, not around 700hp and having the wheelspeed going too fast for the actual pace of the car.
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My times now puts me up on the 1000m leader board. I guess I will have to post a video of a few runs. I have to go tweak the gears because of this damn wing now. Who would of ever thought...
mafia_boy
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@ that last comment.I knew.
Like I said to RJ in the 400m thread, it's the same thing when you're running a car on the sprints WITHOUT any nitrous. The gearing needs to be tweaked a hell of a lot more than normal. It's not just slapping a wing on and going 100% faster.- 20
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8.4 400m w/ 14.802 1000m Gotta tweak the final drive a little and make 3rd a tad bit longer. I can probably squeez out a 14.7.
I am going to put some brakes on the car. Maybe it will give me better traction (in theory with the wing)
I am going to put some brakes on the car. Maybe it will give me better traction (in theory with the wing)
Rotary Junkie
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Hey, I'm going to build a Viper shortly, and I do plan on going quickly with it.
Oh, and I know damn right about the gearing differences. Suspension changes may also be needed for no-nitrous as well, but seeing as I'm working from the ground up...
Oh, and I know damn right about the gearing differences. Suspension changes may also be needed for no-nitrous as well, but seeing as I'm working from the ground up...
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And who ever brought up the FWD TCS thing... I just let the poor little honda make less horsepower. I dont put turbos on the hondas. Almost impossible to control without TCS. Power peaks to fast and there is no suspension/ballast/lsd, etc that can help you get traction with those things. All in feathering the gas
mafia_boy
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Inspired by my comment earlier today RJ??
I didn't change the suspension settings one bit. The suspension setting I had already set-up were done as a drag set-up so there was no real need to soften or harden the suspenion for the nitrous being taken off.
*added bit*
My quickest Honda is the Spoon Civic and that is NA and only has around 310hp, and so is my V6 Accord but with 430hp. Also add my Alfa 147 in there, 420hp N/A and 11.7's. The Integra DC5 and Civic EP3 however in the Top 10 are both running snails and they're both in the 11.6-11.7 range.
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There are 2 cars in this game that react to nitrous like night and day and get sick traction. The EVO MR and one of the Pugeout (not saying)
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Try the STi Spec-C. You'll never mention the word Evo again after it.
Thing is sick at the 400m. When I built that sti, I said, I wonder how the EVO would react to this and it was a sad day for mitsubishi. Just saying, the EVO reacts to the bottle pretty good in stock form.
I havent built an STI for the 1000m yet but I have for the 400m. Thing is sick. My brother has his own garage and he hates the 400m races we do when i pick the STI. He has cars that can beat it but it keeps getting faster and faster.
You know what car I wanna get going in the 1000m, the\at old buick. Thing is balls!!!
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The buick would be alright, getting it into the 14s wouldn't be too far out of the realm of possibility. I've got some other beasts that would scare the holy heck out of the road car 1000m record. That Spec-C will be trembling with my next entry and a new bandwagon will be created. 
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The buick would be alright, getting it into the 14s wouldn't be too far out of the realm of possibility. I've got some other beasts that would scare the holy heck out of the road car 1000m record. That Spec-C will be trembling with my next entry and a new bandwagon will be created.
Do I smell a Spec C war? Im game
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Rotary Junkie
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The buick would be alright, getting it into the 14s wouldn't be too far out of the realm of possibility. I've got some other beasts that would scare the holy heck out of the road car 1000m record. That Spec-C will be trembling with my next entry and a new bandwagon will be created.
Riiight, 'cause instead of trying to take over the Spec C on the leaderboard, you'll just jump ship onto the next big thing and try and take that category.
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Ahem, no, I started that one.
With a 13.998 pass.
im pulling a 14.1 with the spec C after 30 minutes of tuning. 7.9 400m
mafia_boy
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Ahem, no, I started that one.
With a 13.998 pass.
You most certainly did not!! Post #128 in 1000m thread. I WAS THE FIRST TO USE THE SPEC-C!! You were the first to get into the 13's that's all which was post #133.
And the 1st to join onto my Spec-C bandwagon.
Rotary Junkie
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Bugger off.
I hold the record there, so whatever bandwagon you start WILL be jumped on by me, as I don't have anything to rectify save the FD battle, but I know I do 8.20X.
I hold the record there, so whatever bandwagon you start WILL be jumped on by me, as I don't have anything to rectify save the FD battle, but I know I do 8.20X.
mafia_boy
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Don't get testy because I just proved myself right. Your FD is without photo so your 8.2 is invalid and until I see otherwise I am the rotor king.
Your Spec-C is still untouchable at the moment (and will be for a while since I-R hasn't been around in ages!!) and you get full props for that. 👍And you will jump to this ship I reckon, it's something I already mentioned in the 1000m thread.
*added bit* This GT-R is a bit of a pain to tune right. I'm only in the 14.9's so far.
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