Alright guys, it's not really a dilemma, but I'm planning on getting another steering wheel, and I need help on choosing which one. I am an owner of both a G25 and DFP, and I'm looking to get another wheel and playseat evo so I could play 2 players with my bro or with friends of mine when they come over. I'm very happy with the G25, it feels smooth, pedals feel solid, a big upgrade from the DFP, although I was still happy with the DFP when I had it. But the thing was, I went to Best Buy today and I saw a DFGT with a price selling for $100.00, which is quite the bargain. It is a pretty neat wheel with the controls at the tip of your fingers, and I've heard it's as smooth, if not smoother than the G25. But now that I've felt really solid pedals with the G25, the DFGT pedals are sort of questionable to me now. Now should I play it safe, but with a hefty price and go with the G25, or should I go with variety and get the DFGT? Or if anything, is there any other wheels out there that are good with a decent price I havent heard of? G25 and DFGT owners, please give me some advice! Thank you!
My steering wheel dilemma, sort of....
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Smallhorses
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Yes, they can be made to do this.
I've not done it myself, but I've seen it done.
Send a PM to Strop as I know he's done it, and I've driven his setup with the DFGT wheel & G25 pedals.
Link to his conversion with pictures.
I've not done it myself, but I've seen it done.
Send a PM to Strop as I know he's done it, and I've driven his setup with the DFGT wheel & G25 pedals.
Link to his conversion with pictures.
Fanatec is also producing wheels a tier above the G25 
IMO IMO IMO runs for cover.
thing is you already have a G25 and like it´s pedals? If you have a PC or PS 3 you could just get the GT 3 RS wheel without pedals and use the G25 pedals for it. Or you could of course try out a carrera which is supposed to do to the DFP GT what the GT 3 RS do to the G25... With club sport pedals anyway. However be warned I suspect that may not sit well on a playseat for example. It´s not stable enough for nixim modded G25 pedals but it´s okay for stock G25 or Fanatec pedals of course
the cheaper Carrera wheel has clutch and H-shifter like the G25 and the higher end wheels but no belt drive for example and no back plate for the pedals. But if you get a playseat you should be able to mount them more permanently without much problems. But then I suspect you will run the G25 pedals on that one anyway since it has bolts and holes made for it already. for me the Fanatec pedals have a much better feeling for each pedal but the G25 pedals have higher precision and can take more punishment for sure. I expect the life time on them to be longer then the Fanatec pedals for sure. There is also no deadzones on the G25 where the Fanatec pedals ships with some.
nixim mod the G25 pedals and there is no question which pedal set give better feel but a playseat evo for example can´t really take the brake pressure the nixim brake mod requires suppose you need an obutto ozone or something more stable for that.
But well if you want something new definiatly try some of the Fanatec products. DFP GT will feel quite similar to the G25. Surely did from the little I tested it. surely the GT is cheaper then the Carrera and the G25 is cheaper then the GT 3 RS but as they say you get what you pay for
IMO IMO IMO runs for cover.
thing is you already have a G25 and like it´s pedals? If you have a PC or PS 3 you could just get the GT 3 RS wheel without pedals and use the G25 pedals for it. Or you could of course try out a carrera which is supposed to do to the DFP GT what the GT 3 RS do to the G25... With club sport pedals anyway
. However be warned I suspect that may not sit well on a playseat for example. It´s not stable enough for nixim modded G25 pedals but it´s okay for stock G25 or Fanatec pedals of course the cheaper Carrera wheel has clutch and H-shifter like the G25 and the higher end wheels but no belt drive for example and no back plate for the pedals. But if you get a playseat you should be able to mount them more permanently without much problems. But then I suspect you will run the G25 pedals on that one anyway since it has bolts and holes made for it already. for me the Fanatec pedals have a much better feeling for each pedal but the G25 pedals have higher precision and can take more punishment for sure. I expect the life time on them to be longer then the Fanatec pedals for sure. There is also no deadzones on the G25 where the Fanatec pedals ships with some.
nixim mod the G25 pedals and there is no question which pedal set give better feel but a playseat evo for example can´t really take the brake pressure the nixim brake mod requires suppose you need an obutto ozone or something more stable for that.
But well if you want something new definiatly try some of the Fanatec products. DFP GT will feel quite similar to the G25. Surely did from the little I tested it. surely the GT is cheaper then the Carrera and the G25 is cheaper then the GT 3 RS but as they say you get what you pay for
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that was at least partly some driver issue... I don´t know since I sold my G25 but I have read that it was better with some later drivers.
But should be easilly felt with Race 07. Brake in a relatively straight line you should be able to feel when the tires looses grip for example
I am about to ask you a very noob question. Where would I download the drivers for the g25, and would they only apply to the g25 on pc games, or would the drivers help with ps3 games too.
I have never hooked my g25 up to a computer, I have Mac computers. I will be getting a windows based pc around income tax time though, for racing games. I have invested to much money into my setup, not to try out the pc scene. It sounds like if you haven't tried out the pc racing games, you haven't really tried out sim racing and all it has to offer.
logitechs homepage. If it affects PS 3 games as well I don´t know...
As for sim racing you are absolutely right in getting a PC. Be ware though they are quite a bit behind graphically using game engines from early 2000 but in most other areas I get much more out of my simracing on PC. The main reason are the different club/leagues that does it for me
As for sim racing you are absolutely right in getting a PC. Be ware though they are quite a bit behind graphically using game engines from early 2000 but in most other areas I get much more out of my simracing on PC. The main reason are the different club/leagues that does it for me
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they've actually got 7 wheels available for preorder between 127$ and 450$. Turbo, did you actually check the website? it looks like only the 350$ is available to buy and have shipped within a few days... the others look to be months away. Maybe i am reading through the shopping page wrong heh.
Smallhorses
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How would he be able to use the G25 pedals? Surely he would be using them with the G25?
Was there any point in me posting the link to his thread, with pictures?
The full description and review and pictures are in there. That's why I posted the link. It was preferable to quoting his whole post into this thread and taking it off-topic!
As I said, I speak from first-hand experience having used that exact setup when it was here for SFGTP3. It can be done. It does work.
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Not sure what your point is? My understanding of the OP was that he was looking for a SECOND wheel to use when he has a friend over. Taking the pedals from his existing G25 isn't going to help him with that at all.
I think your aim was off target.
He was only trying to answer this question - 
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I would definetely say go with the G25 so you and your friend are matched when racing. I just got my G25 and upgraded from the DFGT, and wow what a difference. The DFGT is a great wheel, but lacking in the pedals especially after using the G25 for sure. My only issue with the G25 and could be an issue for your friends coming over is the buttons not being marked. The DFGT has all the buttons at your finger tips as where the G25 you have to be familiar with how you set it up. The Drive unit in the G25 is nice and quiet compared to the DFGT which rumbles rather loudly during force feedback.
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I'd say go with the DFGT. Yes, the G25 is better, but for $100, you can't go wrong. Plus, owner of the wheels gets the better one by default, and your buddies can "suffer" to use the DFGT.
I say this because I've been considering getting a second wheel. I have a G25 already, but wanna get a good wheel for my friends and the DFGT is the best bang for the buck in my opinon.
I say this because I've been considering getting a second wheel. I have a G25 already, but wanna get a good wheel for my friends and the DFGT is the best bang for the buck in my opinon.
Fanatec is also producing wheels a tier above the G25
IMO IMO IMO runs for cover.
thing is you already have a G25 and like it´s pedals? If you have a PC or PS 3 you could just get the GT 3 RS wheel without pedals and use the G25 pedals for it. Or you could of course try out a carrera which is supposed to do to the DFP GT what the GT 3 RS do to the G25... With club sport pedals anyway
the cheaper Carrera wheel has clutch and H-shifter like the G25 and the higher end wheels but no belt drive for example and no back plate for the pedals. But if you get a playseat you should be able to mount them more permanently without much problems. But then I suspect you will run the G25 pedals on that one anyway since it has bolts and holes made for it already. for me the Fanatec pedals have a much better feeling for each pedal but the G25 pedals have higher precision and can take more punishment for sure. I expect the life time on them to be longer then the Fanatec pedals for sure. There is also no deadzones on the G25 where the Fanatec pedals ships with some.
nixim mod the G25 pedals and there is no question which pedal set give better feel but a playseat evo for example can´t really take the brake pressure the nixim brake mod requires suppose you need an obutto ozone or something more stable for that.
But well if you want something new definiatly try some of the Fanatec products. DFP GT will feel quite similar to the G25. Surely did from the little I tested it. surely the GT is cheaper then the Carrera and the G25 is cheaper then the GT 3 RS but as they say you get what you pay for
Thanks for all the helpful information. Just had some questions about the Porsche wheels since you are an owner. For the H shifter, does it seperate from the wheel itself or does it stay attached? Just wondering because on the playseat, i would like to place the shifter onto the shifter holder. And would the wheel mount without any problem? For example, i know that the XBOX wheel doesnt mount right on. And also not to sound like a noob, but how does not having a belt drive become a disadvantage? I don't know much of the tech specs about the wheels. The Porsche wheels do look awesome though!
Hmm, never thought about the whole matched racing thing. And it's good to hear from a previous DFGT owner to a now G25 owner. I will surely keep that in mind when it comes to deciding soon! Thanks for the info about the force feedback. Which wheel is smoother? Or would you say they feel equally as smooth?
Yes, $100 is a great bang for the buck! my buddies should "suffer" hahaha... The only problem is, everytime i look at the box and I see those pedals, I just think in my head, "CHEAP!!!" but overall, price might be the ultimate factor.
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It´s more fun having different wheels to play with... Of course you will probably preferr one of the other but since it´s your wheel you decide which one you race on right .
As for times I haven´t spotted a difference really.
As for playseat you have the newer Evolution? I have had both but I sold it prior to getting my 911 wheel. I remember the shift holder not really being good placed for me. I had G25 with my Evolution but I had my shifter on a separate flower stand or what it´s called to get it where I wanted it. the Fanatec shifters attaches to the wheel directly so no you can´t attach it to the shifter holder without making your own casing. But I would preferr that for playseat racing as well.
I also got that awful MS FFB wheel but with velcro it did fit good enough though it was a bit annoying with it´s bulky table clamp taking space away.
Now the only thing that may be a problem is the wheel plate on the EVO. With the G25 I had to tighten it maximum for it not getting a bit loose and change the angle of the wheel. You can wield it of course permanently and solve that problem. I don´t know how well the 911 Turbo would mount on it but it should work quite well I suspect since i´s clamping mechanism is not all that different to the G25 after all. But can´t answer that. It does have stronger force feedback but the Evolution was reasonable stable with my G25 anyway. But as mentioned the 911 have much higher force feedback capabilities but you can turn them down of course. For me it´s not realistic to run with 100 % force feedback often I get to much fatigue
As for belt drive vs gear driven. Belt drives feels smoother where you can feel the cogs more in the gear driven wheels. Reason Logitech and also Fanatec on their budget wheel uses gear driven wheels is to save costs.
As for sound the 911 is quiter as pretty much all belt driven wheels are but really when you race you generally have engine and environment sounds that covers it up so for me that really doesn´t matter more then when dry simming
.As for times I haven´t spotted a difference really.
As for playseat you have the newer Evolution? I have had both but I sold it prior to getting my 911 wheel. I remember the shift holder not really being good placed for me. I had G25 with my Evolution but I had my shifter on a separate flower stand or what it´s called to get it where I wanted it. the Fanatec shifters attaches to the wheel directly so no you can´t attach it to the shifter holder without making your own casing. But I would preferr that for playseat racing as well.
I also got that awful MS FFB wheel but with velcro it did fit good enough though it was a bit annoying with it´s bulky table clamp taking space away.
Now the only thing that may be a problem is the wheel plate on the EVO. With the G25 I had to tighten it maximum for it not getting a bit loose and change the angle of the wheel. You can wield it of course permanently and solve that problem. I don´t know how well the 911 Turbo would mount on it but it should work quite well I suspect since i´s clamping mechanism is not all that different to the G25 after all. But can´t answer that. It does have stronger force feedback but the Evolution was reasonable stable with my G25 anyway. But as mentioned the 911 have much higher force feedback capabilities but you can turn them down of course. For me it´s not realistic to run with 100 % force feedback often I get to much fatigue
As for belt drive vs gear driven. Belt drives feels smoother where you can feel the cogs more in the gear driven wheels. Reason Logitech and also Fanatec on their budget wheel uses gear driven wheels is to save costs.
As for sound the 911 is quiter as pretty much all belt driven wheels are but really when you race you generally have engine and environment sounds that covers it up so for me that really doesn´t matter more then when dry simming
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