Need advise please before i get the wheel Steering

[Nayef]

Hello guys,

I'm about to get new wheel steering this week, ( Thrustmaster T-GT ) The new model, I'd never used a wheel before. I have the money balance, but not sure i don't have any knowledge, i have few questions!

1- Whats good Seat to use for the wheel ? ( I Heard the PlaySet they have best Seats , I'm thinking of Gran Turismo Playset ).
2- Does the Seat and Wheel steering hard to build it up on your room ?
3- Do you think its best to go with T-GT Wheel Steering or i should go for another Wheel ? ( I heard T300, Logitic 29 and fanatec they are good too ).

and i play GT all the time, Need your opinions before purchasing ..

 

[Shottah072]

I use a GT Omega seat. The ART one.

https://www.gtomegaracing.com/gt-om...mulator-cockpits/art-racing-simulator-cockpit

I like it. It's sturdy, doesnt have a bar or anything in between the middle of your legs and with the added monitor stand i can mount my screen right on my rig behind my wheel for best position.

 

[DriveSpark]

From what I've read here:

T-GT is okay, but the Fanatec Elite seems to be regarded as better. Check the latest information on GTS compatibility though - it is apparently being worked on but should work with drivehub as worst case.

I've seen complaints that the Playseat Evo is uncomfortable for long periods, also people find the central bar awkward. If you don't want a permanent wheel it seems lots of people rate the playseat challenge which can be folded up and stored.

In both cases take a look at the Sim Hardware area, thread for the T-GT here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/thrustmaster-t-gt-wheel-thread.346309/

 

[Sick Cylinder]

Hello guys,

I'm about to get new wheel steering this week, ( Thrustmaster T-GT ) The new model, I'd never used a wheel before. I have the money balance, but not sure i don't have any knowledge, i have few questions!

1- Whats good Seat to use for the wheel ? ( I Heard the PlaySet they have best Seats , I'm thinking of Gran Turismo Playset ).
2- Does the Seat and Wheel steering hard to build it up on your room ?
3- Do you think its best to go with T-GT Wheel Steering or i should go for another Wheel ? ( I heard T300, Logitic 29 and fanatec they are good too ).

and i play GT all the time, Need your opinions before purchasing ..

Wheels and Rigs are expensive so if possible try a setup owned by a friend first. If that is not possible try a setup in an arcade - some towns or cities have driving arcades.

There is a risk that you will spend a lot of money and not enjoy using a wheel - a friend of mine bought a wheel, but couldn't get on with it so it was unused after a few weeks and eventually given to a charity shop by his wife! On the other hand a friend tried my setup and within an hour he was faster than he had been with a controller!

Personally, unless money is of no concern to you I would suggest starting with a cheaper wheel and using it for a year to see whether you really like it - for example a Thrustmaster T150 or Logitech G29. The more expensive wheels are more enjoyable to use, but there will be very little difference in the laptime between a budget wheel and a high end one. There have been many GT Academy Champions who used a Logitech DFGT (a budget wheel for PS3) so you do not necessarily need a high end wheel to drive fast. Don't go any cheaper / lower budget than a T150 as lower price wheels do not have FFB and are effectively rubbish - i.e. they just mimic hand controllers, but provide no driving feedback.

If you have space for a rig, they are often sold secondhand cheaply by people who have given up racing or no longer have the space. Avoid secondhand wheels however as they are more likely to be faulty. You can also think about a wheel stand instead of a rig depending on whether you need to be able to fold away for storage or need portability etc. Playseat Challenge has been suggested already and can be folded. Personally I find no problem in having a central pole and neither have my friends, but it depends on your seating position and personal preference - some people do have a problem with it.

 

[azrilnazli]

As long not T300 because of the design flaw.

Power supply for T300RS is built in in the base , unlike T500RS/T-GT where the power supply is on separate enclosure.

If me, I'll go for complete fanatec line ups.

 

[dabz343]

I went the route that Sick Cylinder suggested above. Started a few years ago with a T150 wheel on a Playseat Challenge with a 24" Asus gaming monitor.

The only major grip about this setup was the pedals, especially the brake. Though functional, miles behind Fanatec.

 

[FerrellJ]

I might hold off on buying an expensive wheel until they fix the pedal linearity problem in Sport. Or at least until they acknowledge it.

 

[Nayef]

I think I should wait. How about G29 ?

 

[PocketZeven]

I think I should wait. How about G29 ?

I’m in a different position then you but I’m also thinking about T-GT. But I have experience with DFGT and G29. If you have the money and play a lot of racing games on ps4 the best atm are CSL elite and thrustmaster T-GT.

If you only play casually you should look at t300 and G29.

But if you really want the best for console money can buy (without modding) just wait till the first reviews comparing the 2 come out. Afterwards you can make a better decision.

 

[LordHernan]

Dude, if you have the cash, just go for what you feel is best. From the reviews I've seen, I'd go for the Fanatec.

I personally have a G29 for my PS4 and Thrustmaster TX for my Xbone. The G29 is great, especially for me as I don't have the time play for long. However the Thrustmaster is a superior piece of kit. Additionally, I own a Next Level Racing wheel stand for the G29 and Wheelstand Pro for the TX. I would highly recommend the Next Level Racing stand as it's incredibly sturdy and also foldable if you wish to store it.

 

[nib95]

Will you be using the wheel on PC as well, or predominantly PS4 with GT Sport?

If you're a mostly PS4 gamer who will be using the wheel mainly for GTS, the T-GT is probably the best pick up, since it is the only wheel with an inbuilt butt kicker vibration system that adds additional nuance and feedback in addition to the regular force feedback. The butt kicker acts much like the rumble in your pad to better replicate the granularity of surfaces, engines etc, adding an extra smidgen of realism. Currently this feature only works with GTS.

If you do decide on the T-GT, the other day I saw a 30% off code direct from the Thrustmaster shop which was applicable to the T-GT, so you can still get some deals for this new wheel.

Now if you plan to use your wheel predominantly on PC, with other PC sims like iRacing, Assetto Corsa, RaceRoom etc, then the ClubSport Wheelbase V2 with load cell pedals is probably your best bet, since it is regarded as the superior system, though from what I've read its compatibility with GT Sport is a bit ropey at present.

The T-GT is like an improved TS-PC Racer, and here's a good comparison between the TS-PC Racer, CSL Elite and the ClubSport V2.

 

[PocketZeven]

Will you be using the wheel on PC as well, or predominantly PS4 with GT Sport?

If you're a mostly PS4 gamer who will be using the wheel mainly for GTS, the T-GT is probably the best pick up, since it is the only wheel with an inbuilt butt kicker vibration system that adds additional nuance and feedback in addition to the regular force feedback. The butt kicker acts much like the rumble in your pad to better replicate the granularity of surfaces, engines etc, adding an extra smidgen of realism. Currently this feature only works with GTS.

If you do decide on the T-GT, the other day I saw a 30% off code direct from the Thrustmaster shop which was applicable to the T-GT, so you can still get some deals for this new wheel.

Now if you plan to use your wheel predominantly on PC, with other PC sims like iRacing, Assetto Corsa, RaceRoom etc, then the ClubSport Wheelbase V2 with load cell pedals is probably your best bet, since it is regarded as the superior system, though from what I've read its compatibility with GT Sport is a bit ropey at present.

The T-GT is like an improved TS-PC Racer, and here's a good comparison between the TS-PC Racer, CSL Elite and the ClubSport V2.

Its 25% off. At €600 a good deal, but I’d still recommend the CSL. Look at the website. The ecosystem is far superior, but more expensive.

 

[Nayef]

Will you be using the wheel on PC as well, or predominantly PS4 with GT Sport?

If you're a mostly PS4 gamer who will be using the wheel mainly for GTS, the T-GT is probably the best pick up, since it is the only wheel with an inbuilt butt kicker vibration system that adds additional nuance and feedback in addition to the regular force feedback. The butt kicker acts much like the rumble in your pad to better replicate the granularity of surfaces, engines etc, adding an extra smidgen of realism. Currently this feature only works with GTS.

If you do decide on the T-GT, the other day I saw a 30% off code direct from the Thrustmaster shop which was applicable to the T-GT, so you can still get some deals for this new wheel.

Now if you plan to use your wheel predominantly on PC, with other PC sims like iRacing, Assetto Corsa, RaceRoom etc, then the ClubSport Wheelbase V2 with load cell pedals is probably your best bet, since it is regarded as the superior system, though from what I've read its compatibility with GT Sport is a bit ropey at present.

The T-GT is like an improved TS-PC Racer, and here's a good comparison between the TS-PC Racer, CSL Elite and the ClubSport V2.

I’m going for Ps4 only, Specially on GT Sport. I play a lot like 5 hours a day. I have the money balance. But not sure what’s the best wheel and seat for me.

Also I need a very comfortable seat for the wheel if you know a very good seat please let me know, What’s you think is better wheel for me?, looking for your opinion. Thanks

 

[nib95]

I’m going for Ps4 only, Specially on GT Sport. I play a lot like 5 hours a day. I have the money balance. But not sure what’s the best wheel and seat for me.

Also I need a very comfortable seat for the wheel if you know a very good seat please let me know, What’s you think is better wheel for me?, looking for your opinion. Thanks

If it's PS4 only and mostly GTS, I'd go for the T-GT.

 

[Nayef]

If it's PS4 only and mostly GTS, I'd go for the T-GT.

how about the seat ?

 

[PocketZeven]

If it's PS4 only and mostly GTS, I'd go for the T-GT.

If you have a large budget I recommend replacing the pedals with loadcell pedals if you can afford it.

how about the seat ?

Depends on your budget and how much space.

 

[KoldStrejke]

as far as Wheels and pedals go get the T3PA-PRO pedals With the T150 Wheel. thats all youll need. you Dont need any high priced wheels. the FFB in this wheel is good enough. I have tried alot of wheels but realy T150 is all anyone needs. (read my signature)

 

[98cwitr]

Love my G29...only complaint is the flimsy D-pad controls.

 

[Nayef]

Thanks guys, ill go with G29 at the end of this month.

T-GT not available in our country. and for the seat ill fo for playset GT version.

 

[Shottah072]

Thanks guys, ill go with G29 at the end of this month.

T-GT not available in our country. and for the seat ill fo for playset GT version.

I really recomend the t300 or 500 over the G29 if u could get one.

The G29 is basicaly a g27 wich is basicaly a g25. Its super old tech for that price, plus logitech kinda screwed everyone with a g25 or g27 by not supporting it on ps4. Its gear driven instead of belt driven like a t300 wich makes it way smoother in delivering FFB. The Logitech wheels are kinda notchy if u know what i mean.

I had a G27 for years. It are not bad wheels, very durable as well. But the T300 just a better wheel.

 

[PocketZeven]

I really recomend the t300 or 500 over the G29 if u could get one.

The G29 is basicaly a g27 wich is basicaly a g25. Its super old tech for that price, plus logitech kinda screwed everyone with a g25 or g27 by not supporting it on ps4. Its gear driven instead of belt driven like a t300 wich makes it way smoother in delivering FFB. The Logitech wheel are kinda notchy if u know what i mean.

I had a G27 for years. It are not bad wheels, very durable as well. But the T300 just a better wheel.

If he wants reliability he should go g29. The t300 is notorious for its failure rate. Mostly because of it’s built in power supply.

 

[Shottah072]

If he wants reliability he should go g29. The t300 is notorious for its failure rate. Mostly because of it’s built in power supply.

I wont argue that, like i said they are very durable wheels.

I have my T300 for a while now never had any problems yet, and i put allot of miles on it. But dont know allot about the problems so cant comment on that. In EU you get 2 years waranty anyway so im not to concerned.

 

[Nayef]

If he wants reliability he should go g29. The t300 is notorious for its failure rate. Mostly because of it’s built in power supply.

I really recomend the t300 or 500 over the G29 if u could get one.

The G29 is basicaly a g27 wich is basicaly a g25. Its super old tech for that price, plus logitech kinda screwed everyone with a g25 or g27 by not supporting it on ps4. Its gear driven instead of belt driven like a t300 wich makes it way smoother in delivering FFB. The Logitech wheels are kinda notchy if u know what i mean.

I had a G27 for years. It are not bad wheels, very durable as well. But the T300 just a better wheel.

im cinfused now lol, should i go with G29 or T300 RS

 

[PocketZeven]

im cinfused now lol, should i go with G29 or T300 RS

Answer if your in a location with good warranty (Europe 2 years). Get the T300, if not get G29.

 

[Dhoyle89]

I'm in a similar position myself. Not having a place to test them all out makes it worse. Sounds to me the g29 is the better all round package - pedals and wheel are both ok. Thrustmaster have a higher quality wheel with possibly the need for a pedal upgrade and also might break pretty soon!?

These wheels are expensive whoever we choose. Does anyone know of plans for any new wheels to be released soon by either thrustmaster or Logitech? (Just thinking if Logitech release the g30 with a better wheel I may hold out!)

 

[nib95]

I switched from a G29 to a T300RS GT, and the upgrade is easily worth it. At the end of the day you have a warranty, so just buy from a place with a good return policy.

Regarding the differences between the two, reasons why I prefer the T300RS GT.

1. It is a much smoother wheel. You feel less grinding or gear friction, which in turn makes it feel closer to a real wheel.

2. The force feedback is stronger.

3. The force feedback is more accurate. When you're on the edge of grip with the G29, often the way the gears function, the feedback drowns out a touch of the finer detail and nuance, whereas the T300RS is better at informing you when you've pushed too hard. The way the belts tug to one side, replicates a tire slipping or losing traction more accurately than the knocking about or gear grinning inside the G29.

4. The wheel is quieter with the FFB, though the fans can be a nuisance.

5. I prefer using the T300RS rim, as it feels larger and your hands have more room to manoeuvre due to less thick handles. The G29 however has premium leather whereas the T300RS uses simple rubber grips.

6. The paddle shifts have a nicer more chunky feedback.

7. The T300RS GT brake pedal is nicer to use with the conical mod it comes with. It's still stiff, but not too stiff like the G29 brake can sometimes be. The modulation seems just a touch more accurate, and the pedals themselves are wider too.

There are things I prefer with the G29, like the button mapping on the rim, the look and materials of the pedals, the reliability and the leather on the grips etc, but overall the T300RS GT is well worth the upgrade and just a more realistic, satisfying wheel to use.

 

[Dhoyle89]

Thanks for detail nib95.

Do you have any advice regarding the rigs - playseat etc. Are there any cheaper alternatives?

 

[PocketZeven]

Thanks for detail nib95.

Do you have any advice regarding the rigs - playseat etc. Are there any cheaper alternatives?

I recommend a playseat challenge! Looks cheap but is good quality. Lots of customization and wheel plate takes about any wheel. Comes with a seat and folds up really small if you don’t have much room.

I'm in a similar position myself. Not having a place to test them all out makes it worse. Sounds to me the g29 is the better all round package - pedals and wheel are both ok. Thrustmaster have a higher quality wheel with possibly the need for a pedal upgrade and also might break pretty soon!?

These wheels are expensive whoever we choose. Does anyone know of plans for any new wheels to be released soon by either thrustmaster or Logitech? (Just thinking if Logitech release the g30 with a better wheel I may hold out!)

Logitech announced a while ago they were pulling out the console market and probably out of the wheel market too. Without going to direct drive, only thrustmaster and fanatec have future support for the ecosystem.

 

[Nayef]

I recommend a playseat challenge! Looks cheap but is good quality. Lots of customization and wheel plate takes about any wheel. Comes with a seat and folds up really small if you don’t have much room.

how about Playset Gran turismo if i have the space ?

 

[PocketZeven]

how about Playset Gran turismo if i have the space ?

Don’t recommend playseat because of the centerpost. I recommend the next level f1gt or raceroom gameseat. If you have more money I like the fanatec rennsport and Vesaro gamer. But those are €1000+