need help!! Chervolete camaro Z28 302

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Chervolete Camaro Z28 302 Hp:439

Parts to buy:
Racing Brakes
Brake Controller
Port Polish
Engine Balancing
Full Customize Transmission
Tripe-Plate Clutch
Racing Flywheel
2-Way Limited-Slip
Carbon Driveshaft
SuperCharger
Racing Suspension
Tires: N2
Stage 3 Weight Reduction
Increase Rigidity

Settings:
Brake Balance :5F/15R
Spring Rate:6.5F/6.0R
Ride Height:102F/108R
Damper Bound:8F/8R
Damper Rebound:8F/8R
Camber Angle:2.5F/1.0R
Toe Angle:0F/0R
Stabilizers:3F/4R

Tranny Auto Settings:6
1gear:3.674
2gear:2.229
3gear:1.579
4gear:1.252
5gear:1.017
Final Gear:3.890

I drive Autumn Ring. Prodrifters I need help with dampers, spring rate,stabilizers... I dont anderstend this things.
 
It appears to me, that he has settings, and is having issues with them. His point in posting this was to look for help in what he's done wrong.

Yes, he likely could have searched the Drift Settings Depot and might have fond what he was looking for. Asking for direct input on why his layout isn't working could be considered another topic entirely.
 
@riverfiver: I doubt if anybody is likely to give much feedback until you tell us what is wrong, in your opinion, with the car's behaviour.
 
Fine tuning it won't work wonders... The only thing that drastically alters a car's attitude is ballast. I'll have a go with that car later today and give some feedback.

Damper tuning is a mystery to most of us still.. 8/8 seems to work fine in most cases, unless the car bounces and/or skips a lot. Higher spring rates will tend to make that end harder to break loose but easier to control once sliding. Stabilizers is for me just a way to alter the feedback I get from the car.. but the same points as for springs seem to apply.

Some basic troubleshooting that works for me:

- The car is understeery off power, but oversteers easily on power: raise front rate/lower rear
- The car oversteers off power (liftoff) but understeers on power: raise rear rate/lower front
- Rear end seems to slide/spin out of control: raise rear stabilizer
- Front end is soggy and slow to respond: raise front stabilizer
- The whole car seems jerky and snappy with poor response: set a full custom LSD to 10/25/10.. then adjust the initial value up until it feels tight enough.
- Car just seems to go wide in every corner, hard to control: use softer tires
- Car doesn't drift wide enough: use harder tires
- Rear wheels dig in easily and there's major understeer off power: add rear ballast
- Car spins easily off power and is hard to power over: add front ballast
 
damper tuning affects the drift entry and exit the most. They're pretty tough to tune while you're drifting though.

I usually just do a few grip laps, bouncing off as many curbs as possible. I'll soften the damper bound as necessary to get the car to ride the curbs comfortably. (ie - without launching off of them and losing wheel to road contact). For light FR cars of maybe 1000 to 1200kg, damper bounds of 4 or 5 usually work pretty good.

Then, after setting the bound, I'll adjust the rebound to be 1 or 2 ticks higher than the bound setting. This generally makes for a stable, well behaved drift car...
Sometimes though, it can be helpful to increase rear rebound to assist lift-off.
 
I did some test runs with this car and I was quite amazed... Now, I like super loose cars with a bit of power but this one was simply over the top. Waaaay too oversteery even for me, and it kept digging like no tomorrow... So I had to go the opposite way of what's the norm for me ;)

Here's what I came up with (only what differs from the original post is listed):
- Removed the supercharger
- Added racing exhaust
- Switched tires to N3 (!)
- Swapped front/back ride height (just for looks, but it also made it a bit tighter)
- Set both damper bound and rebound to 5 in the front, 4 in the back
- Camber is now 2.0/1.4.. not a big effect at all
- Stabilizers at 1/4 for lighter steering

Right now, the car is much steadier.. and swapping the supercharger with a racing exhaust made the power delivery A LOT smoother. The suspension tuning was minor but softer dampers made clipping curbs a breeze, and the lower front stabilizer made the steering lighter and less jerky.

I really liked this car, especially since I had to tune it againts my usual principles... (made a short little vid of the result, check my vid thread for it)
 
you gayz helpt me alot. I dont understend this:(ske)

Swapped front/back ride height(just for looks, but it also made it a bit tighter)
I dont speak english very good. this givs me alot of problems.
 
riverfiver
you gayz helpt me alot. I dont understend this:(ske)

Swapped front/back ride height(just for looks, but it also made it a bit tighter)
I dont speak english very good. this givs me alot of problems.
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It's not important.. Ride Height: 108/102
 

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