Need help configuring a gaming PC

[ImmalovemaGTR]

Uhhm, yeah, another gaming PC thread, I hope this is ok.

So I saved up some money and want to get myself a good PC.

At first: What the PC is supposed to do:

-) Run RaceRoom, Asseto Corsa and Grid 2 on Ultra or at least nearly Ultra settings
-) Run pCARS (well when it finally releases) and DayZ on very high settings
-) Run CATIA V5 properely

Please note that the resolution for the games will be 1360x768 (HD ready TV-screen)

My budget is somewhere around 500-650 € with an absolute maximum of 750 €.

Here are two configurations which would be inside my budget, if you think they are good or if you would change something, please comment.

1st:

CPU: AMD FX-6300
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7770 XFX Double Dissipation
RAM: 8 GB G.Skill DDR3-1600
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P (CrossFireX possible)
Power supply: Corsair 600CX
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4
Hard drive: HGST HTS541010A9E680 1 TB
Case: Sharkoon Vaya Value
DVD drive: ASUS DRW-24F1ST

- would lead to about 570 €

2nd:

CPU: AMD A8-6600K or Athlon II X4 760K (both are FM2, but run on an FM2+ board), later could be replaced with a Kaveri APU with R7 graphics core.
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7770 XFX Double Dissipation, later could be replaced with a R7-260X, which would Crossfire with the R7 core of the Kaveri APU
RAM: 8 GB G.Skill DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASRockFM2A78M-ITX+
Power supply: Corsair 600CX
CPU cooler: Thermalright AXP-100 LowProfile Cooler
Hard drive: HGST HTS541010A9E680 1 TB
Case: Cooler Master Elite 130
DVD drive: Maybe External, or ASUS DRW-24F1ST

- would lead to about 580 €; you may have noticed that this one is small form factor.


I have enough time to thing about it, maybe even until June.
If I would have to choose from the two above ATM, I would take number one, because it is easier to put better parts into the normal ATX PC, I think.

Thanks for viewing and commenting, best regards,
Stefan

 

[Tesla]

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/2MpLI

Something like this should work well. If you need to cut it down a little, there are 7850's that are 20-30 euro cheaper. Not sure how similar german prices are to Austrian prices either.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/2MpLI

Something like this should work well. If you need to cut it down a little, there are 7850's that are 20-30 euro cheaper. Not sure how similar german prices are to Austrian prices either.

I'll see how much that would cost in Austria 👍

Edit: I will order everything from ALTERNATE.de... with a 7850 that would be 580€ + shipping to Austria = about 600€
Looks good:tup:

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

What about the R9-270X? Is it worth the 40€ more compared to the 7850?

 

[TB]

What about the R9-270X? Is it worth the 40€ more compared to the 7850?

I reference this hierarchy chart on occasion, as I can't keep track of Nvidia's, anyless how they compare to AMD's. Based on that, the 270X is one tier higher than the 7850 and is also newer, sporting the latest and greatest. For me, the 40€ add makes sense.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

I reference this hierarchy chart on occasion, as I can't keep track of Nvidia's, anyless how they compare to AMD's. Based on that, the 270X is one tier higher than the 7850 and is also newer, sporting the latest and greatest. For me, the 40€ add makes sense.

Oh now that is interesting. I would never have thought that the 7850 is "only" on the tier of the 650Ti.

And I thought that the 780Ti was on the same niveau as the 690 (which is my favourite nVidia card, I don't know why maybe because it has dual graphics, as the 7990 which is my overall favourite card)

Oh, and a mobile 680M is only as strong as a 650Ti? I thought the 680M was stronger.

However, the 270X sounds good.
CPU-wise, is the Athlon X4 760K (Richland) any good?

And will such a system run the specs I listed in the OP? Maybe X4-760K on a FM2+ board plus R9-270X...

Edit: forget about the Athlon... I think AM3+ CPUs are way better...
So FX-6300 + R9-270X it is?

 

[Bram Turismo]

If you are running a 1360X768 resolution, you will not need much power out of a desktop to run any game maxed out. I think most laptops these days run games in pretty high specs. Your build looks fine. Even though the FX-6300 is getting really old and I'd say try and go for an FX-8320. In any way, you cannot beat AMD at building budget builds.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

If you are running a 1360X768 resolution, you will not need much power out of a desktop to run any game maxed out. I think most laptops these days run games in pretty high specs. Your build looks fine. Even though the FX-6300 is getting really old and I'd say try and go for an FX-8320. In any way, you cannot beat AMD at building budget builds.

Isn't the 8320 also a Richland?

However the resolution thing changed. I will play on Full-HD, so I guess I will have to lower the details a little bit.

As said in OP, my goal is to play Assetto Corsa and RaceRoom on highest settings and DayZ on very high

 

[Bram Turismo]

Isn't the 8320 also a Richland?

However the resolution thing changed. I will play on Full-HD, so I guess I will have to lower the details a little bit.

As said in OP, my goal is to play Assetto Corsa and RaceRoom on highest settings and DayZ on very high

In terms of price-to-performance, an FX-8320 is lightyears ahead of anything else on the market. With a slight overclock, you basically have an i5. Some people even managed to overclock their FX-8320 as fast as an overclocked FX-8350. And those are barely behind an overclocked i5 4670k.

If you are going to play 1080p as you mentioned, might I suggest bumping up your budget and look at a GTX760 GPU. I think those are 220-225 euros right now. With that card, you should easily be able to max out Assetto Corsa at 1080p resolution. And although I cannot guarantee it, it should also run pCars at maxed out pre-sets at that resolution.

I also stretched my budget. Originally the GTX770 and GTX780 cards were so expensive, I wanted to limit myself to a GTX760 or an AMD 7950. Now that nVidia's prices have dropped, I'm purchasing a GTX780 next month knowing that that card will max out anything at 1080p, and it will continue to do so for a good period of time to come.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

In terms of price-to-performance, an FX-8320 is lightyears ahead of anything else on the market. With a slight overclock, you basically have an i5. Some people even managed to overclock their FX-8320 as fast as an overclocked FX-8350. And those are barely behind an overclocked i5 4670k.

If you are going to play 1080p as you mentioned, might I suggest bumping up your budget and look at a GTX760 GPU. I think those are 220-225 euros right now. With that card, you should easily be able to max out Assetto Corsa at 1080p resolution. And although I cannot guarantee it, it should also run pCars at maxed out pre-sets at that resolution.

I also stretched my budget. Originally the GTX770 and GTX780 cards were so expensive, I wanted to limit myself to a GTX760 or an AMD 7950. Now that nVidia's prices have dropped, I'm purchasing a GTX780 next month knowing that that card will max out anything at 1080p, and it will continue to do so for a good period of time to come.

Well, as I am a student my budget is VERY limited and I have this beuatiful Mazda 626 Station Wagon in my garage who waits for a repair

Isn't the 270X on the same level as the 760? With that it could only be a problem with drivers and/or compatibility, or not?

Or do you think I should wait?

And it's not only a question of budget, I just don't want to spend too much money on a computer. If "only" nearly-highest settings are possible with the 270X, come on

That really would not matter. Plus I can upgrade in the future

 

[Bram Turismo]

A 270X is below a 760 as it is a rebranded 7870. The 280 card is a rebranded 7950 card, which is on par with a 760.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

A 270X is below a 760 as it is a rebranded 7870. The 280 card is a rebranded 7950 card, which is on par with a 760.

Huh? I thought the 280X was on par with the 770... However, thank you very much for the help. I will definately take my time to Think about the 760 (Or 7950...)👍

 

[Bram Turismo]

Huh? I thought the 280X was on par with the 770... However, thank you very much for the help. I will definately take my time to Think about the 760 (Or 7950...)👍

Yes, the 280X is the 770 rival. But AMD's new cards have two models in each segment, the better one being the "X" model. As in, 270 and 270X, 280 and 280X, and 290 and 290X.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

Yes, the 280X is the 770 rival. But AMD's new cards have two models in each segment, the better one being the "X" model. As in, 270 and 270X, 280 and 280X, and 290 and 290X.

Ah, now I get it

 

[Icarus25]

Except there is no plain 280.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

Except there is no plain 280.

That's why I asked twice

 

[Bram Turismo]

Except there is no plain 280.

There is as of since today.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

There is as of since today.

Would it be an option for me? I mean the plain 280?

 

[Bram Turismo]

Would it be an option for me? I mean the plain 280?

They have not yet reveiled prices for the 280 so I don't know. If the difference is very little, than yes. But either way a 270X will handle everything you listed just fine.

 

[starknight97]

When it comes choosing a CPU I recommend an Intel I series such as an I5 because they support gaming more and are better supported/optimized when it comes to games.

 

[Bram Turismo]

GPU impact is far greater. He would be better off saving $60 on the CPU and putting that into a GPU.

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

Yeah + Intels are very expensive...

I will use the computer 90% for gaming and 10% for other things (eg CATIA V5, which runs ery well on my Laptop (8Gigs RAM, i5-3210M, GT630M))

From what I know the FX-6300 is very balanced between power and price... And the Hexa-Core could be better in the Future, when more games support more than 4 cores...

 

[ImmalovemaGTR]

Update: I decided to go even lower on the budget because car.

So what about the new 750 Ti? Is it enough to play AC and pCARS at least at high settings?

Is the older Phenom II X6 1090T/1100T any good? And where could I get it if so?