Need help in final lesson in Driving School. What is best technique?

[gtsdriver]

Need help from pro drivers. Video below shows getting gold on the final lesson in Driving School



What can be done to make this time even better? Or is it already pretty good?

 

[rono_thomas]

Turn all aids off and learn to run without them. That will get you under the gold time.

 

[MaxJP]

Shecane can be full throttle hanging more to the right and when coming out shift right away and last turn hug the inside more. You having trouble completing it?

 

[MaxJP]

Turn all aids off and learn to run without them. That will get you under the gold time.

What he said as well just keep abs default and traction off if you can but easily can be done with tcs on.

 

[gtsdriver]

Driving automatic. I thought the auto is as good as manual shift in sports cars. Sometimes the computer can shift better than manual shift right? With our without aid, is that time considered pretty good? How many more seconds can be shaved off using that same car?

 

[rono_thomas]

My fastest time is a 1:48.1, my fastest friends time is 1:47.5

So it could be down to 1:45 for world wide quickest.

I know mine was set 1st attempt.

 

[gtsdriver]

My fastest time is a 1:48.1, my fastest friends time is 1:47.5

So it could be down to 1:45 for world wide quickest.

I know mine was set 1st attempt.

Does it have to be manual shift to go faster? What is the time penalty for using automatic? Is it possible to achieve 1:47 or lower with automatic?

 

[rono_thomas]

Does it have to be manual shift to go faster? What is the time penalty for using automatic? Is it possible to achieve 1:47 or lower with automatic?

Wouldn’t be able to tell, manual real life and manual in the virtual world. Have never used auto.

As for a time penalty I would doubt there is one but somebody who uses auto would have to answer that one:tup:

 

[MaxJP]

Definitely get used to manual. Some gearing for cars on certain tracks isn't optimal. When I switched I ended up doing faster Laps

 

[gtsdriver]

Looks like no one drives automatic here! I was sure I read somewhere that the automatics were so good that real race drivers don't even use manual shift anymore. I think it was from some high visibility manufacturer stating they no longer offer sticks because only they know when is best time to shift (because of their knowledge of the engine), and can best program it into it. How does one even know when to shift? You would need to memorize which gear for each corner and even which sound pitch to do up or down? That is some dedication considering you are already memorizing all the places to start breaking and cornering. Or do faster drivers use instincts and don't need to memorize layouts? Even then maybe someone can chime in which corners were bad and can improve.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

Driving automatic. I thought the auto is as good as manual shift in sports cars. Sometimes the computer can shift better than manual shift right? With our without aid, is that time considered pretty good? How many more seconds can be shaved off using that same car?

sometimes i take long coasting turns at full throttle in the wrong gear letting the engine gradually increase the traction so that i don't have to do it with my finger. i can't do that in automatic.

the other issue is when you're going uphill and you're at the top power band of a gear, i usually wait until i clear the crest before i change gears as i can squeeze the power band for more before it peaks. if i time it right i don't even decelerate during the gear change. i don't know how the car handles that situation in automatic.

i don't know, i prefer to control the car's power since sometimes i have to do weird things that aren't entirely linear.

 

[toddstar77]

Looks like no one drives automatic here! I was sure I read somewhere that the automatics were so good that real race drivers don't even use manual shift anymore. I think it was from some high visibility manufacturer stating they no longer offer sticks because only they know when is best time to shift (because of their knowledge of the engine), and can best program it into it. How does one even know when to shift? You would need to memorize which gear for each corner and even which sound pitch to do up or down? That is some dedication considering you are already memorizing all the places to start breaking and cornering. Or do faster drivers use instincts and don't need to memorize layouts? Even then maybe someone can chime in which corners were bad and can improve.

Good points, I tend to use manual and find it more beneficial when you want to select the gear for a certain corner that the auto doesn't - for example the auto may sit in 2nd gear through a tight hairpin and you may want to shift to 1st for more acceleration out of the corner - comes down to driving styles, preferences etc. Some drivers take 3rd some take 4th through the same corner.

 

[gtsdriver]

The article I was referring to is this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-get-your-300-000-supercar-with-a-stick-shift

Maybe I was confused between paddle and stick shift, both are manual?

In any case can someone please post their best times using manual to compare with the automatic shown in the video? (Last lesson in the Driving School) How much faster can you get? If you can't shave much time, what is the point of all the memorization?

 

[ROCKET JOE]

How much faster can you get?

If memory serves me right the top 10 guys are down to low 45 laps. I don't think one of them uses auto gears.
Maybe I've got you completely wrong ( I'd apologise then ), but you seem to reduce a drivers pace mainly to his assists and settings. I'm sure there's a dozen other reasons than manual gears when someone is 4 sec faster than you.
Apart from that ...
I'm quite sure 1.47 laps are possible with auto.
To me manual is quicker leaving me more options when driving. And ...
It's more fun. You won't need much time to adapt, so why don't you just try ?

 

[turnupdaheat]

I would fully back the idea that manual is the best option and it is well worthwhile putting in the effort to learn . There are a few benefits to swapping your own cogs including shortening braking distances by downshifting while braking or sometimes it may happen that simply downshifting without braking helps you hold a better line without losing too much speed. Also, on the way up the gears, there are times when short shifting (changing up early) when accelerating out of turns can help keep the car settled if the car tends to get a bit loose at high revs. The auto setting will always wait till you reach peak revs before changing up but turbo cars, like the WRX road car for example, will actually accelerate more strongly if you shift up lower down the rev range.

I'm not a pro/alien driver but this video of my lap might give you some pointers. I run with no aids other than ABS on weak (I must try it again as, after a quick test, it appears the car brakes better with ABS on default setting).

 

[pedrocor]

Does it have to be manual shift to go faster? What is the time penalty for using automatic? Is it possible to achieve 1:47 or lower with automatic?

No idea.

Pretty sure the Cayman is one of those cases that automatic will make you a lot slower. The car has default gear ratios that are stupidly long. So, many times, you are taking the corner in the wrong gear, as in the upper gear you struggle to keep the rear in line instead of moving forward. Usually, in the Cayman you gain time even sacrificing 2-3mph and take corners a gear down, hittinh the rev limiter if needed, instead of letting the automatic control gear selection.

 

[FerrellJ]

because only they know when is best time to shift (because of their knowledge of the engine), and can best program it into it. How does one even know when to shift? You would need to memorize which gear for each corner and even which sound pitch to do up or down?

Maybe I was confused between paddle and stick shift, both are manual?

Once you get above 6 gears, it becomes a little less practical to do a traditional manual transmission because of how the H-pattern works. The 7th gear and beyond require additional "rows" so you run the risk of shifting into 7th instead of 5th (or downshifting into 3rd instead of 5th).

DSG transmissions and even some conventional automatics can indeed be faster than manuals in raw acceleration but in a race car where you are downshifting into a gear near the redline, you really want to be in control of when that happens. If you downshift at the wrong time, it can really unsettle the car. This isn't conveyed in GT Sport but is something that you absolutely have to watch out for in most other sims.

As far as how to tell when to shift and what gear, is just something you get a feel for after a while. You definitely use the engine pitch which is why it's so hard to play the older games split screen.