Need Help!

I have had the game close to two months and haven't got 5% of the way through. What are some of the best handling cars, with or without mods...The handling is frustrating. Need Help!

Thanks,

Racing game fan 79:)
 
Most of the proper racing cars or touring cars have great handling because of the way they're designed.

But the BMW M3 GTR handles pretty nicely from stock!
 
At only 5% I doubt he has the cash for a race or touring car. But if you haven't already done so try getting at least silver in the license tests B-IA and you'll get some fun lil cars to work with.
 
The handling is very well represented once you get used to it. 👍 Though it is far from perfect in some respects. :(
An RR handles like an RR, an MR handles like an MR, and FFs handle like FFs.
It's a vast improvement over other racing games, where an 800HP FR monster will handle as predictably as a 100HP FF car. 👎

The key here, as in real life, is to learn. GT4 has a section designed to help you do that. The Licence Test center. 💡

Did you / do you expect to, learn to drive, first time out by leaping in an F1 or GT class monster?
No!
Why? Because without the acquired skills learned from previous experience you'd kill yourself in minutes, and although it's not possible (that I know of anyway :P) to kill yourself in GT4, the game bills itself as the real driving simulator, and in this respect it parallels real life quite well! Just because there's no risk of death or injury doesn't mean you should jump in the fastest car you can lay your hands on and be able to drive it like a God immediately.

Look at the way the licence tests are structured. Try a corner in something underpowered and FF to learn the racing line. Now try in a faster FR to help you memorise the line, and learn the difference between FF & FR. Now try something in an MR, see how that feels different? Try things with driving aids on and off, see the difference? They're sequentially ordered to help your knowledge of drivetrains and track conditions progress before you get into trying to race a 980HP MR LeMans monster.

You'll gain more enjoyment and racing skills by taking the time to learn the track layouts and racing lines in the licence tests and beginner stage races than you will if you take the easy route, i.e. rake in a ton of cash, buy an overpowered LMP monster and rely on straighline speed to waste all the cars in the early races. This will gain you quick % points early on, but once you come across some of the harder races, such as GT World Championship, this tactic simply will not work, and you'll end up frustrated again!

Have a look around GT Planet, there's a huge amount of information on prizecars, race requirement, used car lists, pitting information for longer races, tuning guides and more! (Most of it linked in the FAQ or stickied at the top of this board.) Make friends with the search engine. :)
Also check out the race reports forum, there's numerous walkthroughs of many championship and endurance races in there too. :drool:

Have fun here. :cheers:
 
Uhoh
At only 5% I doubt he has the cash for a race or touring car. But if you haven't already done so try getting at least silver in the license tests B-IA and you'll get some fun lil cars to work with.

He could do the Rally Di Umbria race for his money troubles, which means no car is out of reach.

EDIT: +1 rep for Smallhorses post. :cheers:
 
RICHARDO
He could do the Rally Di Umbria race for his money troubles, which means no car is out of reach.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo! :mad: This is not good advice! :yuck: Sure it works, but it harks back to taking the easy way out that I mentioned in my previous post. :indiff:

If you don't take the time to learn to drive properly and rely solely on heaps of cash, modifications and HP, you'll never get everything there is to be had out of this game. :grumpy:
 
Smallhorses
Noooooooooooooooooooooooo! :mad: This is not good advice! :yuck: Sure it works, but it harks back to taking the easy way out that I mentioned in my previous post. :indiff:

If you don't take the time to learn to drive properly and rely solely on heaps of cash, modifications and HP, you'll never get everything there is to be had out of this game. :grumpy:

I didn't say I agreed with it, but it does help when you're in a bind. I know it always pays off to learn the game instead of cheating, thats why I rally cleanly. :cheers:
 
Exactly why I suggest the license tests. Just golding the B and A licenses has GREATLY improved my racing skill over my first playthru when cash, NA tuning/turbos, and B-spec Bob was all I needed to win a race.

EDIT: Not to mention that if ya took some used to racing the 100-200hp range of cars and put them in a 900hp car they would more than likely spend more time in a sandtrap or grinding a wall.
 
I didn't say I agreed with it, but it does help when you're in a bind


Agree with that, I struggled through the game myself (despite having the 100K kick start) when it came to cash, yet it never clicked to be doing the Rally di Credits to get myself out of a squeeze. So I wished I'd known that little path earlier...but at the same time...knowing me...I would've taken advantage of it and gone nuts to get everything I could.
 
<_Spike_>
Agree with that, I struggled through the game myself (despite having the 100K kick start) when it came to cash, yet it never clicked to be doing the Rally di Credits to get myself out of a squeeze. So I wished I'd known that little path earlier...but at the same time...knowing me...I would've taken advantage of it and gone nuts to get everything I could.

You were better than me in that respect, I used ARMax for my money the first time. :lol:
 
Ok, so I was a little quick to jump on you there RICHARDO, :guilty: but giving someone that hint who is already struggling to get 5% is only going to encourage him to go down that road. And then next thing you know we'll have yet another "I can't beat GTWC" or "How do I beat GTWC in my Stage 4 turboed Minolta?" thread to go with the other eleventy one million that're already kicking around here.
Hopefully he'll take the advice about licence tests and progress that way.
I fully understand that there's an urgency about some folks to get to those :drool:-some race cars, but until you've learnt to handle a car in the first place, they're not a good place to start! I know pootling around at 30mph in a Daihatsu Midget for all eternity isn't going to keep folks entertained, but it does teach you about conservation of momentum and optimal lines, all of which is useful when you do get those faster cars later on. ;)
 
Smallhorses
Ok, so I was a little quick to jump on you there RICHARDO, :guilty: but giving someone that hint who is already struggling to get 5% is only going to encourage him to go down that road. And then next thing you know we'll have yet another "I can't beat GTWC" or "How do I beat GTWC in my Stage 4 turboed Minolta?" thread to go with the other eleventy one million that're already kicking around here.
Hopefully he'll take the advice about licence tests and progress that way.
I fully understand that there's an urgency about some folks to get to those :drool:-some race cars, but until you've learnt to handle a car in the first place, they're not a good place to start! I know pootling around at 30mph in a Daihatsu Midget for all eternity isn't going to keep folks entertained, but it does teach you about conservation of momentum and optimal lines, all of which is useful when you do get those faster cars later on. ;)

Very true wise sir, to make the bills you got to have the skills. Sorry, I couldn't resist. :lol:
 
Hey! Don't you have any licenses yet? Why don't you try doing some of the license tests until you get silvers or golds and maybe that will help you drive better. I'm fairly certain that the PS2 dual-shock controller is not the most controllable input device for driving, but it is up to the task in most cases. You just need to buckle down and practice. You may not end up the fastest in the world, but you should easily beat most of the races after you get your licenses. Plus you get a chance to test a wide variety of cars in various states of tune.
 
If you have Cr.200,000 to spend, get the Mines Skyline. In stock form it can out-perform many, if not all cars in its' price range.
 
racinggamefan79
I have had the game close to two months and haven't got 5% of the way through. What are some of the best handling cars, with or without mods...The handling is frustrating. Need Help!

Thanks,

Racing game fan 79:)
How far have you gone on the game? Are you close to 5%? If so you've already won 50 some odd different races. What car(s) are you driving now?

If you're looking for a specific recommendation for a good handling car, might I suggest a Mazda MX-5 Miata. Best is a new 1800 RS version from the Mazda dealer, but there are several available in the used car lots. That car in various states of tune can easily win at least half a dozen different race series. And in my opinion at least it's one of the more fun cars to drive.

If you're coming to GT4 from GT3 or earlier, the physics engine is vastly different and takes quite a bit of getting used to. I know it took me a while to adapt but once I did I realized it's much more like driving a real car especially after I got a Driving Force Pro (DFP) steering wheel, highly recommended if you're serious about the game.

Anyway, welcome to GT Planet and enjoy both the game and the boards.

Oh, and pay heed to Smallhorse's posts, he speaks truth.
 
Remember this game is not the same as NFS, pushing the analog stick or directional buttons all the way will not cause the car to turn well. If you use controller, push the analog stick only slightly and you will notice that the car turns better then having the stick pushed all the way.
 
I had this problem too, finding it hard to get some cars to handle properly. I found out that the main problem(s) are:

1. Compounds - different tyres have different effects on the car. I used my Cizena (spelling?) in the Italian race in the European Hall on normal sports tyres which made the car very hard to handle. So I changed to a softer compound and decided to break alot harder and I found that the car coukd handle slightly better.

2. - Types - Check the tyre regulations. If there are no regulations on tyres, always go for the racing super hard compound. I've found that you can get alot of speed out of these tyres also the handling is fantastic.

Give it a go mate. You'll soon get going through the game, I was in your situation and after a few days of solid playing I went up 30%. I'm at ~60% now and I'm kind of stuck myself :).
 
If you want a good, cheap, and new 4WD car, go with the EVO VIII or a STi. Uber handiling and healthy power should make those races easy, but fun nonetheless. :) They are also very responsive to power upgrades, so they're cheap to tune aswell, they also makes great rally sluts..er beasts. :D
 
Thanks for all the advice. And not a single post making fun of me..lol I must confess, I used a cheat code to get max cash, but it really doesn't help if you don't know what cars are best suited for which races/tracks.

Thanks again

racinggamefan79
 
For all of the races with the Group C/LMP 900 cars (ie. the Audi R8 and Toyota 88 C-V), the Chaparall 2J will be a great car to try. But be forewarned: DO NOT take the car to the Nurburgring, Circuit de la Sarthe or any other exceptionally bumpy tracks (including but not limited to Trial Mountain). It is nearly impossible to control at places like that. If you build up your skill, you can even win the races not at the bumpy tracks with the car stock (the 2J loves Fuji in all incarnations), but early on a stage 3 turbo will win you most races rather easily.
 
Toronado
.....the Chaparall 2J will be a great car to try. But be forewarned: DO NOT take the car ..... Circuit de la Sarthe ......

Hmm, I don't agree with that one. The Chap needs suspension tuning for bumpy tracks and then its fine.:sly:

AMG.
 
It still doesn't like it, and a couple of the bigger bumps on the left can still send the car into a wall. And Hunadaires? Forgedaboutit. Of course, in B-Spec it will beat all of the A.I. completely stock and be happy about it.
 
I suppose the best way is to avoid and resist the urge to master quick and become a racing legend. Thus will he be able to avoid the boredom some of us suffer every now and then.

For example I was so bored and frustrated due to a problem with the disk (the all too famous red gauge spinning) :ouch: I gave up on the game for about two months.

I bought the platinum edition when I saw it with a very funny price tag. :dunce: (Something around 10 Dollars, guess it was tagged wrong or the guy wanted his stock to liquidate???) I grabbed it nd went on to race again.

It solved all my problems and I unlocked lots of feautures once again. I also overcame the weird problem of not being able to unlock the final races of the pro league. It was a red gauge thing obviously.

Hafta admit though, the extreme hall is sort of frustrating and you hardly resist the urge to pick up your max machine out of your garage... :scared:

So to make it short, I would suggest to go slowly and savour all the fun slowly and little by little. I went for all gold in the license tests (which I bluntly and promptly failed) and am still trying to get the Ford Model T.

Seems like it will take a year, a new PS2, steering wheel a new GT4 disk and to get that car. :crazy:

So follow me brother... Have fun...
 
I would recommend practicing in arcade mode. I can't remember how many cars will be available at only 5%, but I'm sure there are some you can practice with. I would get a good handling car (like others said STis and Evos are great), and just run laps trying to improve your time at a course with lots of good turns like Grand Valley. This made the biggest difference for me.
 
When I was learning gran turismo 1 years and years ago I first learnt how to drive front wheel drive cars then all wheel drive then finally rear wheel drive cars.

The fwd and awd cars can be more forgiving to a new driver because instead of oversteering(spinning out) from too much gas they understeer(just don't turn enough) usually.
 
When starting GT4 after having played GT3 for a few years I found myself yelling at the game because of the cr#$%ppy handling. It turned out I just had to turn off all the driving aids on every car I won/bought.

Of course this only is the case for former GT3 players, if you're new to the series the ONLY way to appreciate a cars spirit is to learn to drive by getting your licenses, and whenever you feel like you can, get them with all gold medals.
 
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