New Driving Force Wheel for GT6?

[LeadFootLiam]

The Driving Force GT has been with us a long time.

I think its time for a new one!

Better flappy paddles, stiffer, more life like pedals.

1080 rotation would be cool.

Progressive force feedback, what I mean by that is having the wheel turn easily when the car is stationary, and when at speed its harder to turn, like a real car.

Also an option to have "power steering on/off" to simulate power steering and no power steering.

Leave your ideas down below!

 

[daus26]

I'd really like a cheaper option of having clutch pedal and separate stick shift. Other than that, having the steering wheel more lifelike will only add to costs and we already have the G27s and Thrustmaster for that.

 

[GTPorsche]

Won't be another Logitech GT wheel.

 

[Spagetti69]

having the wheel turn easily when the car is stationary, and when at speed its harder to turn, like a real car.

Crikey, what car you have?

 

[G219]

Crikey, what car you have?

Was thinking the same thing....

 

[JacksHerer]

a handbrake would be nice too

(e-brake)

 

[JacksHerer]

haha missed the post above, in a parrallel world?

I think 5th gears episode tiff mentioned in his GT5 review, that the ffb steering goes stiff when grip is lost instead of going loose, like in the real world

 

[LeadFootLiam]

I'd really like a cheaper option of having clutch pedal and separate stick shift. Other than that, having the steering wheel more lifelike will only add to costs and we already have the G27s and Thrustmaster for that.

True, but having a clutch and and sifter would be sick.

 

[playnthru]

Well, we already have a clutch and shifter on GT5s official wheel, the T500rs and TH8rs.. So if you are asking? Will GT6's official wheel be what we already have! Yes it will, but I doubt it will a Logitech brand.

A DFGT priced wheel, with G27 or T500 type options, will not happen! Please know there are good reasons those wheels cost more money..

 

[another_jakhole]

haha missed the post above, in a parrallel world?

I think 5th gears episode tiff mentioned in his GT5 review, that the ffb steering goes stiff when grip is lost instead of going loose, like in the real world

The recent episode when he "compared" the racing games, he mentioned the opposite of what you described. As he was braking and losing grip, he felt the steering wheel start to get loose.

 

[another_jakhole]

DOH! I keep messing up.

Well, we already have a clutch and shifter on GT5s official wheel, the T500rs and TH8rs.. So if you are asking? Will GT6's official wheel be what we already have! Yes it will, but I doubt it will a Logitech brand.

A DFGT priced wheel, with G27 or T500 type options, will not happen! Please know there are good reasons those wheels cost more money..

True, but having a clutch and and sifter would be sick.

playnthru, this is all that he's saying. It would have been awesome if my first wheel, the DFGT, had a clutch pedal AT LEAST. A reasonably priced wheel like the DFGT with those extra features would be great for the people who just won't fork over the money for a G27 (understandably).

 

[avens]

I don't get why you are asking for a new dfgt when there are so many better ones on the market that you can get right now. Good things cost money and better things cost more money.

 

[machschnel]

I sure hope they release an "official" wheel early on in GT6's life cycle and then a while later release another "official" wheel..........

 

[HOODFIELD]

The T500 is currently the official wheel, I don't see the problem? A new official wheel thats anything less would be dissapointing.

 

[Tornado]

There will most likely be a DFGT replacement when GT6 comes out, but it probably won't even be as much in terms of differences as the DFP -> DFGT was.

 

[Whistle Snap]

Won't be another Logitech GT wheel.

Yeah, with Logitech ceasing development on steering wheels Polyphony had to shack up with Thrustmaster.

The T600 will launch with GT6 so get saving those pennies...

 

[mcfizzle]

DOH! I keep messing up.




playnthru, this is all that he's saying. It would have been awesome if my first wheel, the DFGT, had a clutch pedal AT LEAST. A reasonably priced wheel like the DFGT with those extra features would be great for the people who just won't fork over the money for a G27 (understandably).

We have a DFGT with a clutch and H-Shifter, the G27. Add those features to a DFGT and it will cost more money.

 

[another_jakhole]

So the materials used can't be of cheaper quality? The DFGT is cheap in every sense of the word compared to the G25/G27. The DFGT doesn't have an h-shifter nor a clutch pedal. Make a compromise by simply adding a clutch pedal.

Anything I write from here on isn't fact, it's logic.

One would think that the h-shifter is where more of the money goes. The clutch pedal is just a pedal. Especially the coding side of it, a clutch pedal wouldn't be impossible to work with like the shifter is and always has been for any game.

 

[avens]

can't you save $50 (or whatever it is) and buy a g27 instead of the dfgt?

gt4 and gt5 official wheels were the very best at their release date.

 

[Tornado]

Yeah, with Logitech ceasing development on steering wheels Polyphony had to shack up with Thrustmaster.

The T600 will launch with GT6 so get saving those pennies...

I would bet money that PD wouldn't allow the only GT-branded wheel on the market when GT6 comes out to cost as much as the console the game is on. There will be another entry level wheel that PD pushes towards medium range players. And as far as "how much can they do to it and keep it entry level," the Driving Force GT only costs $30 more than the original Driving Force did when it first came out in 2001, and it does so much more in comparison that it might as well not be comparable. For that matter, the Driving Force GT is (with one exception) better than the Driving Force Pro across the board, and it costs basically the same as that did when it came out. A design similar to the current DFGT but with a clutch could be justified from a design perspective if there is enough demand for it.



I don't think it it would happen, because that would cannibalize a lot of T500RS and other top level wheel sales, but it could happen and still be mid-range from a cost perspective. I think far more likely will be something with a similar design to the DFGT with slightly better FFB. The DFGT is still a pretty decent wheel, so something built to a similar principle would be fine when GT6 comes out as the "face" of GT-branded wheels.

 

[LeadFootLiam]

I don't get why you are asking for a new dfgt when there are so many better ones on the market that you can get right now. Good things cost money and better things cost more money.

I think you misunderstood, they should make a new one for GT6 not a new one GT5. I'm planning on buying a G27

 

[LeadFootLiam]

The T500 is currently the official wheel, I don't see the problem? A new official wheel thats anything less would be dissapointing.

The problem is, that, the T500 costs 600 bucks. I'm not spending that money for a wheel when I can save that money for real track days.

 

[HOODFIELD]

The problem is, that, the T500 costs 600 bucks. I'm not spending that money for a wheel when I can save that money for real track days.

I'm sure if you can afford to race your car as a hobby your not hurting that bad you can't budget $600 for a wheel. You just don't want too. I understand it's a lot for a video game accessory but it will get you many more hours of use than $600 at the real track will. Of course everyone wants more for less, I understand, but Logitec is out of the equation. If another official wheel is made it will probably be Thrustmaster and they wouldn't put a clutch on a cheaper wheel than the T500 because that wouldn't make sense from a business perspective. Since the T500 they did introduce a new budget wheel for Xbox 360 and it didn't have a clutch. T500 was as low as $330 on Black Friday btw.

 

[occasionalracer]

It's entirely possible for Thrustmaster to design a cheaper wheel and pedal set with manual shifter, it's a massive and growing market for sure. The T500 though is a pretty good piece of equipment even for GT6, I don't think it's worth a replacement anytime soon, but one thing that would be the next logical step would be a load cell FFB brake pedal and perhaps even FFB clutch (or a tactile feel)... it could sell as a standalone unit as an upgrade, plus Thrustmaster could design a few more wheel rims.

I don't think Logitech will have an official GT branded wheel but they certainly would be giving up on a massive market if they decide not to drop anything new as a DFGT replacement. The DFGT sells like crazy and easily paid off the R&D costs years ago.

 

[nascarfn]

UMMM OH GOD THERES THIS THING CALLED A Thrustmaster t500 and a Thrustmaster TH8 RS shifter

 

[Samus]

UMMM OH GOD THERES THIS THING CALLED A Thrustmaster t500 and a Thrustmaster TH8 RS shifter

Umm oh god there is this thing called money and that costs a lot of it.

 

[hennessey86]

Ummmmm...................fanatec FTW

 

[Bhowe83]

You said alot of things in your OP that did not have anything to do with hardware, but software.

Progressive force feedback cannot be effected at all by the wheel itself, but the game controlling it.

Also a power steering on off feature would have nothing to do with hardware, but the settings in the game for the wheel, again software.

If there was a brand new million dollar state of the art wheel that blew you away released for GT6, it could do none of the things you asked unless PD made the software accordingly

 

[occasionalracer]

If there was a brand new million dollar state of the art wheel that blew you away released for GT6, it could do none of the things you asked unless PD made the software accordingly

True, but the reverse is even more important.. the $600 T500RS absolutely puts the heavily supported $120 DFGT to shame. I just don't get how PD weren't able to remove the annoying "dead-zone" from the DFGT/G27, cause apparently these wheels do not behave like that on some PC games... just what I've read, but that dead-zone is non existent within GT5 when using the T500

 

[avens]

True, but the reverse is even more important.. the $600 T500RS absolutely puts the heavily supported $120 DFGT to shame. I just don't get how PD weren't able to remove the annoying "dead-zone" from the DFGT/G27, cause apparently these wheels do not behave like that on some PC games... just what I've read, but that dead-zone is non existent within GT5 when using the T500

Most probably GT5 has different setups for each wheel or brand, though it has to be said GT5 has by far the best ffb I've felt on consoles.

Umm oh god there is this thing called money and that costs a lot of it.

Right now there are lots of better alternatives to the dfgt that are cheaper than the T500, for example a used g27. If he does not have money for those bad luck then.