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[RS4DRIFTER]

Hey evoryone im new here. I just wanted to ask how do i set up a car for drifting. can drift with my evo6 prety well but al i do is tuurn off the tcs. what elese do yoy guys do to the cars to get theme sideways. any advice would be aprecieate, thanks





(old) Metallica kiks as$

 

[Bbandit]

well the most basic drift tuning i can think of is

to set the rear suspension stiffer than the fronts

after that, start messing around with camber and toe
i usually use 0.5 toe for the rears, 0 toe for the fronts
but then again, i only drift FRs and im not that good

 

[pRaHjeC]

welcome to the forums =]

turn off tcs and asm, put on sims, use an FR car like a silvia or an RX7, get around 300-400 horsepower, mess around with the camber, and youll be good to go =D

 

[XzifT]

pRaHjeC, I'd seriously suggest cutting your Signiture down to 8 lines.

 

[battle_stage]

well the most basic drift tuning i can think of is

to set the rear suspension stiffer than the fronts

He got it backwards.


Rear spring rate should be softer than the front in a front wheel drive car.
More camber on the front.
Simulation tires.
ASM and TCS turned off.


A misconception about drift setups is that you actually need them. There's nothing magical or unique about a drift setup. In fact, alot of drift cars are setup to grip. You need a well handling car to drift well and some wacky tricked out setup won't give you that. You may be able to drift something like that but it's not really worth it.

My suggestion for you is to ditch the 4WD drive car for now. It's alot easier but it's a crutch when beginning. Buy yourself a nice lightweight RWD coupe to learn on. Here's some cars I'd suggest:
S13
S14
S14
FC3S
FD3S
AE86
etc...

Keep your mods to a minimum. I'd say if anything keep it to drivetrain mods and suspension parts. There's no need to power. YOU DO NOT NEED POWER TO DRIFT. It would be most beneficial to learn to do more with less than to just smack on a fat turbo and let the power do all the work.

 

[XzifT]

There is also a good thread about drift cars. Its at the top of this forum, I belvie it says "Read this before posting", it has a list of good tracks, cars, and drift guides. And Welcome to GTP!

 

[moshter11]

imo...i dont think u should use simulation tires...they slide too much...if ur just starting, i think u should use supersoft in front and medium in back

 

[XzifT]

No. Never mix tires.
Its not drifting, its just sliding. Use Sims, they teach you alot.

 

[battle_stage]

Yeh, not like sliding and drifting go hand in hand or anything.... ****that was sarcasm****

Whether you'd like to believe it or not, simulation tires do replicate real life tires the best, so that would be ideal for the most realism when drifting. If you want a "Real Driving Simulator" just like the box says, use the sims. I honostly think you'll develope more skills using sim tires as well. I've suggest that to guys on my team who used higher hp and sticky tires and they improved greatly in skill level overall after using sims for a while.

 

[XzifT]

Oh..Ha..Ha..ok. Mixing tyres is 'uncontrolled sliding.' Drifting is 'controlled sliding'..Happy..?

 

[moshter11]

uhhh...a lot of professional drifters put grippy tires in front and less grippy ones in the back...

 

[battle_stage]

uhhh...a lot of professional drifters put grippy tires in front and less grippy ones in the back...

Or not... keep in mind, THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS. This guy is a n00b. To start off, sims would be best. Also, don't think a good setup will save you from spinning out or crashing either. Practice is the only thing that can do that. Practice alot and get consistant. After you're pretty good, consistant, and have a good understanding of tuning, then you can explore different setups and tire combinations. You gotta crawl before you can walk.

 

[moshter11]

thanks battle_stage for a good advice..learned a lot from you

 

[moshter11]

you are my takahashi ryosuke !!

 

[XzifT]

Dont talk about Initial D..

 

[Bbandit]

sorry for giving you all false info...
let me correct that..

i always use stiffer settings for the rear if im using SS tires

if im using sims, i'll copy the exact real-life coilover spring rate for that particular car. sims tires loves real-life coilovers spring rate prolly because simulation tires project real-life tires

but then again its all come down to personal preference

 

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by battle_stage

Here's some cars I'd suggest:
S13
S14
S14
FC3S
FD3S
AE86
etc...

You must really like the S14, you put it down twice. I agree with that list of cars, and your also right about the spring rates.

No. Never mix tires.

I also agree with this statement. Mixing tires can make it easier for some cars, but it is a crutch, and will ultimately slow your progress, and deminish your skill.

 

[Delphic Reason]

Originally posted by battle_stage
After you're pretty good, consistant, and have a good understanding of tuning, then you can explore different setups and tire combinations. You gotta crawl before you can walk.

Good advice battle, it looks like you've been reading some of my posts.

 

[battle_stage]

My mistake, didn't mean to mention S14 twice. Obviously it was supposed to say S14, then S15.

 

[Thio]

Originally posted by RS4DRIFTER
Hey evoryone im new here. I just wanted to ask how do i set up a car for drifting. can drift with my evo6 prety well but al i do is tuurn off the tcs. what elese do yoy guys do to the cars to get theme sideways. any advice would be aprecieate, thanks





(old) Metallica kiks as$

What are your settings for your Lan Evo VI?

Usually most cars can be driften (lol) stock, but the car needs simulation tires in order to slide around more.

By the way, welcome to GTPlanet.net

 

[Ethix101]

Originally posted by moshter11
uhhh...a lot of professional drifters put grippy tires in front and less grippy ones in the back...

Name one. More often then not, professional drifters actually have grippier (nice word) tires in the back than in the front (at least for the first few minutes until all the tread is gone). A perfect example would be the Signal Auto twins. They're running 17x9 215/40/17 wheels and tires in the front and 18x10 235/35/18 wheels and tires in the back.

The only time you really see cheaper/less grippy tires in the back are on cars owned by amateurs who don't have the money to be spending $150 per tire that only lasts a few runs before it's shreaded.


-Mark

 

[layzeeboi]

Originally posted by Ethix101
A perfect example would be the Signal Auto twins. They're running 17x9 215/40/17 wheels and tires in the front and 18x10 235/35/18 wheels and tires in the back.

damn.. a 235/35 on a 18x10.. thats crazy..