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New name for the new Ferrari
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Jordan, sauber, minardi are also on bridgestones
655? ok im NOT confused. at least the old numbering system made sense
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nothing is uglier than the williams seriously i hope it doesnt work so it disappears
Minardi switched to bridgestones last year
Minardi switched to bridgestones last year
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They aren't all that crazy, every car has them, and they've been there for a while. I figure you're not much of an F1 fan, Loud? They're there to get more downforce (as i'm sure you already figured out 
) and deflect the air around the rear tires. The black thing that protrudes between the last two winglets are the exhaust pipes. Every single detail on the car is geared towards aerodynamic efficiency.
) and deflect the air around the rear tires. The black thing that protrudes between the last two winglets are the exhaust pipes. Every single detail on the car is geared towards aerodynamic efficiency....or so numerous. Giles made the comment in conversation that Renault seemed to have gone heavily to the quantity side of the old quality vs quantity debate, in terms of side pod aerodynamic solutions.
Given that the 'new' V10 can trace its roots back to the Supertec motor of the late '80s, I'd have thought they'd have been looking for less drag, not more.
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Yea, that about sums it up. Ferrari usually used a designation like the displacement and number of cylinders in the engine, followed by an letter or number for the chassis variant.
- 156
1.5L V6 used in '61, and again in 1985, when it was the 156/85 because it was a turbo engine.
- 312xx
The venerable 3-liter flat-12. from 1969 to 1980.
- 310x
3-liter V-10 engines (1996-99)
Or, they used an F1[year] designation.
- F18x
Ferraris from 1986-88.
- F1-200x
Ferraris from 2000-03.
But then again, there's all sorts of oddball numbers used beforehand:
-Type 639-641
Used from 1988 to 1992.
655? Well, it's their car...
I think a tire company has to supply a minimum of 30% if the teams, according to old FIA rules. You can't have one team having a "special" tire custom-made for one team's car...
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It is interesting to see this season (2004) F1 cars beginning to evolve away from the standard that all cars pretty much have evolved into the past few seasons.
Racing is about speed and winning, aesthetics don't make you faster...good design and engineering do. I personally think the Williams is "interesting" looking, I can't claim to be an expert in aerodynamics but as a layman the new nose on it seems to offer advatages. Remember how people reacted in the early 90s when noses on cars started lifting.
Ferrari have recently said that the new F2004 will have a "interesting nose"...we shall see.
The renault is by far the most interesting car to come out this testing season. I doubt they will be where they were last season, not due to the aero of the car which looks amazing...but due to their new engines. Grand prix weekends could turn into a Renault vs. Honda rolling grenade game. But th e look and design of the car is amazing, they seem to be pushing and pushing, hell their car last year got them as far on mostly it's aero.
The Ferrarri F2004 remains the wildcard here. It is the only title contender not to have their new car out testing, while Williams and McLaren have. If anything I think 03 woke up the sleeping scuderia beast and knowing Ferrari they will come out fighting.
The bridgestone vs. michelin issue is the other big one. It comes down to essentially the Michelin's seem to be superior over short distances and hot laps (i.e. single lap qualifying) but over a full race distance the two tires are just about equal if anything bridgestone still has the edge (there compound seem to go off slower, but when they go off they are REALLY off). We all know about bridgestones in the wet.
Ferrari and the new "saberarri" being close to the same spec as far as tires are concerned is great. Bridgestone can focus on develping tires for ONE chassis and exploit it all. Jordan and Minardi will take and like whatever they get from ferrari, they don't even matter in the equation. Michelin has 6 teams and 6 chassis to develop for. Focus i think will win out over being all over the place.
04 should be an interesting year.
Racing is about speed and winning, aesthetics don't make you faster...good design and engineering do. I personally think the Williams is "interesting" looking, I can't claim to be an expert in aerodynamics but as a layman the new nose on it seems to offer advatages. Remember how people reacted in the early 90s when noses on cars started lifting.
Ferrari have recently said that the new F2004 will have a "interesting nose"...we shall see.
The renault is by far the most interesting car to come out this testing season. I doubt they will be where they were last season, not due to the aero of the car which looks amazing...but due to their new engines. Grand prix weekends could turn into a Renault vs. Honda rolling grenade game. But th e look and design of the car is amazing, they seem to be pushing and pushing, hell their car last year got them as far on mostly it's aero.
The Ferrarri F2004 remains the wildcard here. It is the only title contender not to have their new car out testing, while Williams and McLaren have. If anything I think 03 woke up the sleeping scuderia beast and knowing Ferrari they will come out fighting.
The bridgestone vs. michelin issue is the other big one. It comes down to essentially the Michelin's seem to be superior over short distances and hot laps (i.e. single lap qualifying) but over a full race distance the two tires are just about equal if anything bridgestone still has the edge (there compound seem to go off slower, but when they go off they are REALLY off). We all know about bridgestones in the wet.
Ferrari and the new "saberarri" being close to the same spec as far as tires are concerned is great. Bridgestone can focus on develping tires for ONE chassis and exploit it all. Jordan and Minardi will take and like whatever they get from ferrari, they don't even matter in the equation. Michelin has 6 teams and 6 chassis to develop for. Focus i think will win out over being all over the place.
04 should be an interesting year.
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Renault has always been one of the leading contenders in the aerodynamics of F1. I'm sure this new design will work well.
I think Williams car looks fine too. It's different but I wouldn't say it looks bad. I'm sure it'll work well too. Companies don't just spend millions developing a certain part just to slow them down..
I think Williams car looks fine too. It's different but I wouldn't say it looks bad. I'm sure it'll work well too. Companies don't just spend millions developing a certain part just to slow them down..
