New Seasonal: NR-A Roadster Cup

[N91KB]

You're a Gentleman, Thankyou

 

[N91KB]

Tried the Autumn Ring one last night. It's pretty hard to get in 1st, even with upgrades. I ended up in 4th. I probably just need a better car?

Try a new Mazda Roadster '07 from the dealer and use CyKosis1973's suspension tune with sport hards. 👍

The car does like to drift a bit on that track. A big part of it is finding a nice clean line and being smooth. Also, for many of the corners just lift off the gas for a split second then get back on the gas while turning. It helps transfer a bit of weight to front and helps you turn into the corners better without losing much speed.

If you can average between mid 44's to low 45's lap times you should be able to win it.

 

[MeToo]

Jesus Christ on a stick another Mazda miata event at Tsukuba as if 4 hours of it wasn't enough pD. Hello, anybody home McFly, I mean PD do you really think anyone wants to race this crappy track after the endurance events? NO MORE TSUKUBA SEASONALS

 

[Moot]

More Tsukuba please PD, such a great track.

 

[MeanElf]

Try a new Mazda Roadster '07 from the dealer and use CyKosis1973's suspension tune with sport hards. 👍

That is a very stable tune from CyKosis1973, though I will need to try that a few more times first (to get the flow correct.) It gave me second place on Tsukuba the first time I tried it out.

Enjoyed your own unfolding tale of gradual upgrading to tackle that course - nice work.

 

[amar212]

More Tsukuba please PD, such a great track.

I agree.

 

[robbo6]

Evo vs Subaru +1:tup:. But any of those seasonals sound good. Maybe you should send PD your Resume.

I just wish they'd give us the tools to create our own offline events, that would have been much better than a track creator IMO.

What about the sport trucks on the Nürburgring? That was a class bit of initiative.

Anyway, maybe all of these ideas and possibilities will be coming our way at some point - have faith.

I'm having a lot of fun in the meantime 👍

SUVs at the Nurbs wasn't just imagination it was full on LSD fuelled madness. SUVs/4x4s are my most disliked vehicles in ANY game. I hate the things on the real roads too, take up too many parking spaces, are driven by people who don't seem to care for the safety of others etc etc. As an ex motorcyclist I didn't just do the usual "presume car drivers trying to kill me" for SUVs/4x4s I "presumed SUV/4x4 driver trying to kill EVERYONE else"!!

Sadly my faith has all but disappeared. I didn't have high expectation and GT5 failed to meet them. It's a good game, but could and should have been better.

 

[robbo6]

More Tsukuba please PD, such a great track.

I agree.

GT5 the Real Tsukuba simulator.

C'mon....seriously don't you guys think some other tracks should be given a chance! I DO like Tsukuba but it's OVERUSED in GT5!! Seasonals are the PERFECT place to use the tracks hardly used in Aspec mode! Yet PD are not doing so.

 

[ShaneG]

I used the same Miata, that I bought for the first "Roadster Seasonal" a few months back.
Didn't have to buy any additional upgrades, and it was already tuned for Tsukuba!

Was damned happy to get another reverse track though. More of those please!!

 

[SoCal Senator]

Was damned happy to get another reverse track though. More of those please!!

I agree. Although it's a "lazy" way to add a "new" track by PD, it does make it interesting. But I've only seen it done on a few tracks so far (Tokyo, Grand Valley off the top of my head).

It's interesting to drive them in reverse because it's familiar but different and you have to find new lines (I don't always follow the blue line with my driving style).

 

[MeanElf]

...SUVs at the Nurbs wasn't just imagination it was full on LSD fuelled madness. SUVs/4x4s are my most disliked vehicles in ANY game. I hate the things on the real roads too, take up too many parking spaces, are driven by people who don't seem to care for the safety of others etc etc. As an ex motorcyclist I didn't just do the usual "presume car drivers trying to kill me" for SUVs/4x4s I "presumed SUV/4x4 driver trying to kill EVERYONE else"!!

Hey, I'm a cyclist and definitely not a lover of the 4x4 mentality either - the use of them in GT5 however was great, especially on the Nürburgring.

Top Gear TT would be fun too, but I can do those sorts of races in Aracade mode

 

[smrtb0mb]

Best thing about this series is that it introduced me to SSR5 reverse. That's a pretty fun track, especially with the mega-slingshot into the final straightaway - you can pass 4 or 5 AI's with that

 

[gthead01]

I was pleasantly surprised by this seasonal. I was thinking I was going to just hammer down and get it over with. I am like most, not Tsukuba's biggest fan. but the whole series proved to be a bit more sporty than I anticipated. all in all, not the worst seasonal to date.

 

[UrbanRedux]

I found them all quite easy, I enjoyed climbing up the grid in every race, tempted to go back and do them again.

 

[Nielsen]

No big deal but I would find it cool if they had spent more times on designing some unique logos for some of these events. The NR-A logo looks just like the Super GT logo. I liked how the Honda Civic seasonal introduced a fitting logo. You know, just to top it off.

 

[BlindZenDriver]

FFS Enough with the whining and complaining. If it's so terrible go out in the real world or at the very least stop trying to bring the rest of us down with all the doom and gloom.

 

[Nielsen]

FFS Enough with the whining and complaining. If it's so terrible go out in the real world or at the very least stop trying to bring the rest of us down with all the doom and gloom.

So it's forbidden to express personal opinion now because you don't like it?

 

[NewfieBangaa]

So it's forbidden to express personal opinion now because you don't like it?

No, every one is entitled to complain and throw rage fits about a seasonal, though its not going to change anything. True, it's not the best, but no one is forcing them to do it.

That being said, I agree on your post regarding the logos, the NR-4 does look nearly identical to the Super GT.

 

[BlindZenDriver]

So it's forbidden to express personal opinion now because you don't like it?

Of course not.

Are you saying it's not okay for me to express a personal opinion with regards to all those postings containing negative nonconstructive critique?

All I'm trying to get across is that posting the same negative views again and again gets in the way in a thread where people are enjoying talking about how to go about the challenges and debating the cars that can be used. It's like being at a nice party only to find half the people complaining the music is rubbish.


And now back to the racing.

I have been trying out the MX-5 NC setup very kindly suggested earlier in this thread by CyKosis1973 and did well with it only somehow not spot on for me (likely due to me driving that very car a lot beforehand with a different setup).

Here is where the setup I have been using before differs from the one CyKosis1973 posted:

Suspension
Ride Height: -18 / -17
Spring Rate: 15.0 / 12.5
Extension: 5 / 5
Compression: 5 / 5
Anti-Roll: 4 / 4
Camber: 1.5 / 1.0
Toe: 0.25 / 0.20

I would love to hear how the two setups compares from as many as possible. Faster/slower, perceived difference in handling and so on.

Drive safely

 

[N91KB]

All I'm trying to get across is that posting the same negative views again and again gets in the way in a thread where people are enjoying talking about how to go about the challenges and debating the cars that can be used. It's like being at a nice party only to find half the people complaining the music is rubbish.

+1 👍

 

[N91KB]

Finally finished the last three Mazda seasonals. I did Trial Mountain & SS5 with both a bone stock Roadster RS (NC) '07 and a stock Roadster RS (NC) '07 with CyKosis1973's suspension tune. Both cars running sport hard tires. The final Kart Track race I only used CyKosis1973's tune since I didn't think I'd have a chance with the stock suspension.

First, Trial Mountain:
As several have mentioned, this is a very easy race even with the stock '07. You basically take the lead on lap 3 somewhere. This race needs to be run with one of the older Miatas in the 130-140HP range to make it more competitive?? Have not tried yet. Won easily with both cars.

Stock best lap time / race time: 1:47.432 / 9:05.941
CyKosis1973's Tune: 1:46.711 / 9:00.796


Next, SS5 - Clubman Stage Route 5:
This was a fun race! 👍 I really enjoyed this one. I was not able to win this one with the stock Roadster. I did win with CyKosis1973's tune.

Stock best lap time / race time: 1:04.976 / 5:32.715
CyKosis1973's tune 1:04.868 / 5:28.815

AI winning race times varied between 5:26.911 - 5:31.905

Finally the Eifel Kart Track:
This was a fun race as well. Took me 4,5,6 or so attempts to win this one. The trouble is it's a tight track and overtaking can be challenging if you are trying to be somewhat clean. I won this race with about a 1 second lead at the finish.
CyKosis1973's Tune best lap time / race time: 59.114 / 5:02.474

If you've some previous posts where I used CyKosis1973's tune, you may notice that when comparing the fastest lap times between the two cars, it's not usually a very big time difference. The biggest difference for me is the drivability. I can drive CyKosis1973's tuned version near the limits with more control and therefore I'll consistently drive faster laps versus the occasional fast lap I'd set when I happen to nail everything right with the stock setup.

Well, I've enjoyed this seasonal I must say. I want to thank CyKosis1973 one more time. A very nice suspension tune that really makes the difference between winning and not winning in the last two seasonal races. 👍

Edit: I did change the brake balance & ABS setting because of personal preference.
I use a G27 wheel with H shifter
All aids off
ABS 0
Brake Balance 4/1

 

[Christian_C]

This would only be valid if the other two names for the car weren't also in the game as separate models. Miata has only ever been used in the USDM, so any car labeled as such in the game is supposed to be a USDM car.

Not so! look closely at some cars in races that carry 'Miata' number plates (hence therefor the game calls them a miata) and you'll notice they have Eunos Roadster badges on them

True. Plus there are loads of Japanese imports in the UK badged as Eunos Roadsters. I'd say the less commonly known one in Europe is the Miata.

Indeed this is true but crossover culture promotes more use of the term 'Miata' than it does 'Eunos Roadster', I'm pretty certain I can go out into the street and find more people who know what a Miata is than they know what a Eunos Roadster is.

 

[N91KB]

I have been trying out the MX-5 NC setup very kindly suggested earlier in this thread by CyKosis1973 and did well with it only somehow not spot on for me (likely due to me driving that very car a lot beforehand with a different setup).

Here is where the setup I have been using before differs from the one CyKosis1973 posted:

Suspension
Ride Height: -18 / -17
Spring Rate: 15.0 / 12.5
Extension: 5 / 5
Compression: 5 / 5
Anti-Roll: 4 / 4
Camber: 1.5 / 1.0
Toe: 0.25 / 0.20

I would love to hear how the two setups compares from as many as possible. Faster/slower, perceived difference in handling and so on.

Drive safely

BlindZenDriver,

I'll give your set-up a try. Just to verify though, these settings are for a Mazda Roadster RS (NC) '07? Just want to be sure we are using the same car.

In addition, I went back to Trial Mountain to try and find somewhat of a challenge. So I went to the Mazda new car dealer and bought a brand spanking new Mariner Blue Eunos Roadster (NA Special Package) '89 with a whopping 118HP and 101 ft/lb of torque. Slapped some sport hards on (since the rest of the field is using them) and headed to Trial Mountain.

On the set-up screen I see the power rating only shows 114HP. Go figure.

I changed my brake bias to 4/1 and turned all aids off and set ABS to 0.

First time around I finished second to my surprise. I did not think with 114HP it would do as well.

On the second try I got stupid and crashed half way through the first lap, so I restarted.

Won it on the third try! Made the final pass on the last lap after the long tunnel going into the turn on the inside. The other mazda almost passed me back on the long uphill section because of his power advantage. But once pointed down hill again I was ok.

So I recommend giving Trial Mountain a try again with the above mentioned car. It's all about momentum conservation.

Almost forgot,

Fastest Lap 1:49.800
Race Time: 9:17.513
After the race, my power showed as 115HP and 355PP

 

[fitftw]

I own a 1.8L Miata and I know a lot of guys who tune them so I used that knowledge to net a 52.176 fast lap on Eifel kart with a '97 SR Limited (the model most closely matched my car.) I am still tweaking after every race, and I am not a great virtual driver by any means. Once I break into the 40's I'll be happy.

223hp
890kg
450pp

Suspension
Ride height -25 / -15
Spring rate 10 / 7
dampers 8 / 8
dampers 6 / 6
swaybar 6 / 3
camber 1.5 / 2.0
toe 0 / 0

LSD
30
20
25

Transmission
final gear 3.630
top speed 130mph

didn't touch the brakes yet, but I'm about to set it to 8 / 4

 

[Tornado]

Not so! look closely at some cars in races that carry 'Miata' number plates (hence therefor the game calls them a miata) and you'll notice they have Eunos Roadster badges on them

 

[Nielsen]

Of course not.

Are you saying it's not okay for me to express a personal opinion with regards to all those postings containing negative nonconstructive critique?

All I'm trying to get across is that posting the same negative views again and again gets in the way in a thread where people are enjoying talking about how to go about the challenges and debating the cars that can be used. It's like being at a nice party only to find half the people complaining the music is rubbish.

I'm not saying anything, I just asked a question. You are free to express your opinion but please don't try get the negative critisism out of the way. It's a forum and I appreaciate reading whatever people have to say about these Seasonal Events no matter how much I agree or disagree. It's not written anywhere that the debate must circle around which cars and setups to use. I'm always openminded when it comes to these Seasonal Events but I also want to know how other people respond to it.

 

[CyKosis1973]

Finally finished the last three Mazda seasonals. I did Trial Mountain & SS5 with both a bone stock Roadster RS (NC) '07 and a stock Roadster RS (NC) '07 with CyKosis1973's suspension tune. Both cars running sport hard tires. The final Kart Track race I only used CyKosis1973's tune since I didn't think I'd have a chance with the stock suspension.

First, Trial Mountain:
As several have mentioned, this is a very easy race even with the stock '07. You basically take the lead on lap 3 somewhere. This race needs to be run with one of the older Miatas in the 130-140HP range to make it more competitive?? Have not tried yet. Won easily with both cars.

Stock best lap time / race time: 1:47.432 / 9:05.941
CyKosis1973's Tune: 1:46.711 / 9:00.796


Next, SS5 - Clubman Stage Route 5:
This was a fun race! 👍 I really enjoyed this one. I was not able to win this one with the stock Roadster. I did win with CyKosis1973's tune.

Stock best lap time / race time: 1:04.976 / 5:32.715
CyKosis1973's tune 1:04.868 / 5:28.815

AI winning race times varied between 5:26.911 - 5:31.905

Finally the Eifel Kart Track:
This was a fun race as well. Took me 4,5,6 or so attempts to win this one. The trouble is it's a tight track and overtaking can be challenging if you are trying to be somewhat clean. I won this race with about a 1 second lead at the finish.
CyKosis1973's Tune best lap time / race time: 59.114 / 5:02.474

If you've some previous posts where I used CyKosis1973's tune, you may notice that when comparing the fastest lap times between the two cars, it's not usually a very big time difference. The biggest difference for me is the drivability. I can drive CyKosis1973's tuned version near the limits with more control and therefore I'll consistently drive faster laps versus the occasional fast lap I'd set when I happen to nail everything right with the stock setup.

Well, I've enjoyed this seasonal I must say. I want to thank CyKosis1973 one more time. A very nice suspension tune that really makes the difference between winning and not winning in the last two seasonal races. 👍

Edit: I did change the brake balance & ABS setting because of personal preference.
I use a G27 wheel with H shifter
All aids off
ABS 0
Brake Balance 4/1

Wow, awesome stuff N91, glad you enjoyed the car and that it helped with some of the races. Nice to see laptimes against the stock
car :-)

Thanks for your time and efforts, properly good stuff...

{Cy}
EDIT - Crossed some wires, deleted some text that should have gone to Zen. Thanks once again N91...

 

[Lambob]

I regress having thought this was a questionable seasonal, I am having a good time with it afterall.

My personal Challenge:

I took a stock Roadster 1600 NA = one of the least powerful of em all, (upgraded it to pp of 390:
using Default Suspension,
using Default Engine, no ECU
a fixed close ratio tranny,
only sport exhausts, manifold, filter (look for 390 pp , 160hp)
custom LSD, settings below, clutch and flywheel upgrade (not sure if needed)
sport hards

won Autumn mini by 3s. (1st place AI has the same car)

try my LSD setting: IT 10, Acc 17 , Decel 13, Brake Bias 2/3, Manual Shift.

Aim for Lap times: 44.5s - 44.9s , passing an AI in Turn1 (start wide outside on rumble)
best lap 43.80 ==> rare, don't know how really.

great event afterall, and collecting em all.

 

[N91KB]

Aim for Lap times: 44.5s - 44.9s , passing an AI in Turn1 (start wide outside on rumble)
best lap 43.80 ==> rare, don't know how really.

great event afterall, and collecting em all.

Wow, nice. I never posted my best/average lap times but we are close. When I did that race I used the '07 Roadster stock with CyKosis1973's suspension tune. I think it was up to 170HP & 395PP (it fluctuates as everyone here knows) and I was in same lap time range. My best lap was 44.391. Awesome job breaking into the 43's at 390PP! 👍

If you have not tried the SS5 and the Kart track yet, I recommend them. They are a hoot in that 390PP range.

 

[N91KB]

Wow, awesome stuff N91, glad you enjoyed the car and that it helped with some of the races. Nice to see laptimes against the stock
car :-)

Thanks for your time and efforts, properly good stuff...

{Cy}
EDIT - Crossed some wires, deleted some text that should have gone to Zen. Thanks once again N91...

Thanks CyKosis1973. I checked out your "the hill" link since I enjoyed your set-up so much. Let me know if you come up with a good tune for a car at 500PP that will run well on sport hards at the Nurburgring. I'd like to do some on-line racing with it.