New T.V. For my Birthday....

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Well...I've been waiting for a long time to get into a HDTV monitor. I just ordered the Dish Network with a HD receiver but I had to get a HDTV to go with it. I found a great deal on a Samsung TXN3098 30" Wide Screen Tube HDTV with DVI inputs. WOW, great picture quality! I hooked up my DVD using the component progressive scan output and what a difference. I have HD A/V Kit coming for the XBox soon...no one around here had them for sale so I had to order it. My only complaint at this point is that during playback of DVD's via the component input, I cannot use the zoom feature to fill in all of the letter box. When I was running it just though the S-Video, this was not a problem.... I haven't found anything on it, but I am assuming it has to do with the 480i mode not being compatable with zooming the picture...I really have no idea. If DVD's look this good on 480i, I can't wait for HDTV in 1080i. Samsung also makes the Samsung DVD-HD931 DVD player with a DVI output which will up-convert the DVD signal to a 1080i display. HDTV from a DVD? From what I hear it's increadable...not sure how it works though, I thought that how the DVD was encoded determined it's max resolution. I guess that time will tell.

Anyhow...., happy birthday to me, just had to share my excitement with my fellow GTP'ers.

:cheers:
 
Congratulations on becoming a HDTV set owner. You gonna just love movies in 1080i, or 720p High-definition. You just missed Zorro on CBS last night, it was in 1080i, but no Dolby Digital 5.1 though.

Your DVD player needs to be adjusted for your new 16:9 aspect ratio screen size. Setting up the PS2 for 16:9 was a pain in the ass. If you need help with it, let me know.

I'll give a great link for HDTV programming for your area a little later. I can't remember the address for it right now, but I get it for ya.

Oh, don't forget, Monday Night Football is usually in 720p HD! CBS, NBC and ABC might have movies on tonight in HDTV, so check your TV guide. The TV guide will have (DVS) for HDTV movies or shows. Well, mine does.

See ya later, oh and happy birthday, again! :)

I found it! The first one has a great list of video games that are in High-definition. This should come in handy for your X Box.

HDTV Pub . Com - High Definition Video Games...
Address:http://www.hdtvpub.com/games/index.cfm


HDTVGALAXY - THE DEFINITIVE HDTV RESOURCE CENTER
Address:http://www.hdtvgalaxy.com/broad.html

I haven't seen those "HD" DVD players in action, yet. I might get one. What you need is an HD Hard Drive recorder. I have the Zenith HDR-230. It has a few problems, like you can't program a recording stop recording at 8:00PM, and then start a different at 8:00PM like with a VCR. The machine gets confused, and either doesn't record the show, or keeps recording the one it starts to record, skipping the others you might have programed after it. Oh well, other than that, it works just fine.

I would like to get the Dish Network 250GB Hard Drive Recorder- Receiver, but it's for DVI only. I only have component inputs because my HDTV is more than two years old. Sucks!
 
Well...this Samsuck was the worst investment of my life. I am extreemly happy now with this little gem, now back to the HD thread.....:
 

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oooh, Grand WEGA.

Not only you have the processing power to run Far Cry, you can even display it half way across your living room wall. I'm envious. :)
 
It's truly insane...., now I have to just wait for GT4, and hopefully 1080i support. :D
 
Awesome! :cheers:

I might pick one of these up when our current big screen takes a dump. Thank god the wife and kids aren't bugg'n me for a new one yet. Do you have many features?
 
How can you play your pc game on (is it) a TV? (or a projector)

I envy you so much now... :irked:
 
Here are the steps I took to make PC monitor viewing possible on my TV at 1304x734 resolution using a Moster DVI-400 cable from my ATI's DVI output to my TV's DVI input.

Items you will need:

- ATi Catalyst Drivers (www.ati.com)
- Powerstrip (www.entechtaiwan.net/ps.htm)
- DVI-D to DVI-D (Single or Dual) Cable (If you don't spend at least $60 on this cable, then you will regret it, I promise.)
- Patience

Steps:

1. First, hook up your PC to the TV using the S-Video connection method. Verify that the DVI (or other monitor) cable is not connected to the ATI card.
2. When your PC boots up, uninstall all instances of ATI software on your machine (including drivers). ATI has a utility that will allow you to do this easily (http://www2.ati.com/drivers/cat-uninstaller.exe)
3. After the uninstallation is complete, reboot your machine WHILE LEAVING the s-video connection plugged in.
4. When the system boots up, it will of course see all of the new hardware and attempt to locate drivers. Cancel out of all the windows that pop-up (quite a few will pop-up if you are using an All in Wonder series).
5. After that is all done, install the ATi Catalyst drivers that you downloaded from ATI.
6. Reboot the machine WHILE LEAVING the s-video connection plugged in.
7. When windows comes back up, install powerstrip. (don"t bother rebooting the machine if it asks)
8. After the installtion of powerstrip is completed, right click on your desktop and select Properties.
9. Click the Settings Tab > Advanced > Monitor > Properties > Driver > Update Driver
10. Select the 2nd bullet (Install from a list or specific location). Click Next.
11. Select "Don't Search, I will chose a driver to install"
12. Uncheck the box that states "Show compatible hardware"
13. On the left side, select "SONY Corporation"
14. On the right side, select "Sony GDM-FW900"
15. Click Next, Finish, Close, OK.
16. Verify that Powerstrip is running by looking in your taskbar for the icon.
17. Right click on the powerstrip icon in the taskbar - Select Display Properties - Configure...
18. Click the "Advanced Timings.." button
19. Click the "Custom Resolutions" button
20. Select the "User defined" radio button
21. Open Notepad (Start > Run > notepad > enter) and type the following: 1304x734=1304,64,40,240,734,11,5,23,74160,6
22. Highlight the line you just typed and copy it to the clipboard (Edit > Copy)
23. Back in powerstrip, on the right-hand side you'll see an icon that has a clipboard and says "Paste" when you roll over it. Click that button.
24. Click the "Add New Resolution" button
25. From here you will get one of two options,

A) Your display driver has successfully recognized the new resolution
or
B) Something about needing to reboot to try it out.

26. In either case, shut down the machine completely.
27. Unplug your s-video connection
28. Hook your PC directly up to the GWIII by using the DVI cable (expensive one remember)
29. Boot up the machine. It should put you in an ugly 640x480 resolution.
30. Right click on your desktop, select "Properties" and then advanced.
31. See if the new resolution appears (1304x734). If it is, select it and hit apply and wait for the screen to attempt to sync up.
If the new resolution does not show up, Right click on the powerstrip icon, Select Display Properties and then Configure...
Attempt to change the reolution in the upper right corner (you might have to uncheck the box on the left that says "Hide modes not supported by monitor"
Click Apply
32. If the resolution changes, then you are all set to begin getting everything lined up.

---- CAUTION ----
The steps below require the use of the service menu, please make sure that you note each value before attempting to make a change, in case you need to go back for some reason.

33. Turn off your Grand Wega III and wait 5 minutes (for it to do a proper shutdown of sorts)
34. On your remote, press the following keys in the order in which I state and then hit the power button:
DISPLAY > 5 > VOL+ (Remember, these don't need to be held down, just pushed and released in that order)
35. TV should turn on with a bunch of green crap in the top half of the screen.
36. You will need to set the following: MID4:1 (horizontal size) to 171 and set MID4:3 (vertical size) to 192. Then center the image using MID4:0 and MID4:2

The following is an excerpt from raymod2 describing the use of the service menu, please use it wisely:
To enter the service menu first turn off the TV. Then press "DISPLAY" - "5" - "VOL+" - "POWER" on the remote. The TV should come back on in service mode. Each setting is called an "item" and they are grouped in "categories". You use the 1 and 4 keys to scroll through the items. You use the 2 and 5 keys to scroll through the categories. You'll notice that each item in a category has both a number and a 4-letter name associated with it. So when I refer to MID4:0(DHPL) I am referring to item 0 (which is named DHPL) in the MID4 category. When you find the correct item you adjust it with the 3 and 6 keys. When you are satisfied with your change you must press "MUTING" - "ENT" on the remote to save it.

The layout of the screen in service mode is as follows:

CATEGORY....................ITEM NUMBER....................VALUE
ITEM NAME

Note that there may be multiple values associated with a single item. For example, switch to your DVI input and then go to MID4:0(DHPL) and look at the value stored there. Now press "TV/VIDEO" on your remote and switch to your ANT input. It looks like the value stays the same but that is just because the service mode software is too stupid to refresh the value. Scroll up one item and then back down to force a refresh. You will notice there is a new value there. So make sure you are on the correct input and in the correct mode when making your changes.

Credits go out to the avsforum and it's members for making this all happen.
 
Not exactly plug-and-play, now is it?

Holy crap, Pako! Can't believe you had to do all that inorder to use your PC DVI ouput on your HDTV DVI input. Respect, brother. It's crap like this that makes me say F-it!

I've been to the avsforum before. Those guys know so much it's scary. I've tried to look around there, to help me out with my quest for a HDTV PC, and most of it goes right over my head. They have computer systems that go for $4,000 a pop. Insane.

Thanks for the post, and update! 👍
 
:lol: No, not quite pnp. Sony actually states that this TV is NOT compatible with computer signals. If pnp is what your after, certainly a TV with compatable connections is manditory. Originally, computer hookup was a secondary task. Now, however, I am finding that I am using it more and more as a computer monitor. I have DVD playback now that's superior to my stand alone DVD player, great graphics for games, ect. Lookin into a HD Capture card for recording HD broadcasts on the computer. I have about $2K into my computer, but could easily build a HomeTheater PC for under $700 that would be superior to most stand alone player.

I would be more than happy to help filter though the information on the AVS forum as well as help recommend a price conscience PC for HDTV playback, capture, and encoding. Keep in mind, in the most of the threads I have read on the subject, it is suggested to have a seperate computer for playback, and another computer for encoding. This way you have leave a computer running 24/7 for encoding and not effect your playback times. :) (You cannot playback and encode at the same because encoding takes too much system resources, your playback would be choppy at best)
 
Originally posted by Pako
:lol: No, not quite pnp. Sony actually states that this TV is NOT compatible with computer signals. If pnp is what your after, certainly a TV with compatable connections is manditory. Originally, computer hookup was a secondary task. Now, however, I am finding that I am using it more and more as a computer monitor. I have DVD playback now that's superior to my stand alone DVD player, great graphics for games, ect. Lookin into a HD Capture card for recording HD broadcasts on the computer. I have about $2K into my computer, but could easily build a HomeTheater PC for under $700 that would be superior to most stand alone player.

I would be more than happy to help filter though the information on the AVS forum as well as help recommend a price conscience PC for HDTV playback, capture, and encoding. Keep in mind, in the most of the threads I have read on the subject, it is suggested to have a seperate computer for playback, and another computer for encoding. This way you have leave a computer running 24/7 for encoding and not effect your playback times. :) (You cannot playback and encode at the same because encoding takes too much system resources, your playback would be choppy at best)

Awesome to know! Thanks!

I went there last night, and it wasn't as bad as the last time. Some things are starting to click, since I looked into builbing my own PC a few months back.

OK, how long for encoding a two hour HDTV movie? I want to transfer a stored HDTV movie from my Zenith H-d PVR, to my future PC for archiving. How does this work? Can I do this? What is encoding actually?

See, don't know a damn thing. :D

Oh, I forgot to ask, how do "computer things" look on your HDTV set? It's great for games, and DVDs, but how about that?
 
Originally posted by Solid Lifters
Awesome to know! Thanks!

I went there last night, and it wasn't as bad as the last time. Some things are starting to click, since I looked into builbing my own PC a few months back.

OK, how long for encoding a two hour HDTV movie? I want to transfer a stored HDTV movie from my Zenith H-d PVR, to my future PC for archiving. How does this work? Can I do this? What is encoding actually?

See, don't know a damn thing. :D

Oh, I forgot to ask, how do "computer things" look on your HDTV set? It's great for games, and DVDs, but how about that?

From what I have read, Windows Media Player has a codec (a video compression format) that has very low quality loss but can save huge amounts of disk space. Encoding time will greatly vary on your processor. From what I've read, the encoding process is appears to be optimized for intel based processors. Also read this post, it appears to take 5-8 hours per movie ( http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=1913460#post1913460 ).

Basically, you have to get your programming into the computer first. What I am seeing a lot of guys do is use a capture card capable of HD resolutions. Once the video is captured into the capture card's native codec, you would then encode it into windows media player HD format. The link to the AVS forum in the other thread will explain step by step procedures for doing this. I haven't personally done this yet, so I can't comment on the complexity in doing it, but I have encoded other formats for DVD so I imagine it's not much different. Once you have the procedure in place, it should be rather easy....more time consuming then anything else.

My TV's performance for "computer" things is beyond my expectations! Just great! I would compare it to a standard LCD display. I have a couple of 15" LCD's and find the picture very comparable. Once I finish calibrating it, it should be just right! As it sits today, there is a little horizontal shadowing. Not enough to make it bothersome, but never the less, it's still there. It's very usable and doesn't fatigue my eyes during extended use.

DVD performance form the computer is better than any of my stand-alone components. I have tried the XBox, PS2, and my Samsung DVD player......I have much better video from the computer. I have decided to use my computer from ALL DVD playback. I have 5.1 DD encoded from the sound card so I have my full sound! All is good!

Video games are awesome (if I can play them in my custom resident resolution). It's not as friendly as a computer monitor because of the limitations is refresh rates and resolutions. I can run games in 640x480 or 1304x734. It certainly looks better in the 1304x734 resolution. That's in full screen mode, in window mode, I can make those other games look quite good at their default resolutions, 1024x768 (max). I have only played Far Cry, Day Of Defeat, Splinter Cell, and UT2004. Far Cry is by far the best looking, and most supported game with my custom resolution. DOD I have to run in window mode. Haven't messed enough with UT2004 to make a recommendation, and Splinter Cell I have to run in 640x480. It still looks better than XBox, but the lines are pretty jagged, which it kind of did anyways at higher resolutions (which I contribute to being a game console port to PC).
 
Holy ****! I thought you were using a TV card like I am...I think I can't get it to work cause my TV is either
a) too old
or
b) the cord is too short

Must be quite an ultimate gaming experience playing on a bloody 60 inch tv!
 
Originally posted by DODGE the VIPER
Holy ****! I thought you were using a TV card like I am...I think I can't get it to work cause my TV is either
a) too old
or
b) the cord is too short

Must be quite an ultimate gaming experience playing on a bloody 60 inch tv!

That would be a 60 inch *cough* LCD Monitor *cough*

;)

Yeah, it is pretty increadable. If I can get a good picture of it with windows desktop, and maybe GTPlanet to show what the text looks like, I'll upload it.

:cheers:
 
Awesome info Pako, thanks!

I'm still going to wait for Blu-ray, or something else, for saving HD movies onto disc. Right now, if I build the system, I would need a lot of hard drive space, with multiple hard drives. Something like 750GB. I don't want to do that, since a HD disc drive will soon hit the market.

Maybe in a few months, I'll ask more help at choosing what hardware I should select for my PC. Oh, lucky you! :D

So, computer things look great. Cool. This piece of crap MSNTV box is terrible. I cant read half the stuff that it pukes out. I had it connected to the HDTV set with component cables, but now it's S-video.

I recorded Harry Potter last night in HDTV and it's stored on the Zenith. Looked great; did you watch it with your boy? Don't worry if you missed it, it will be on Saturday, but you'll miss Swordfish which will be in HDTV too. Now, I have a dilemma. Do I get rid of Toy Story 2, my youngest son's favorite, or Armaggedon, my oldest son's favorite movie? I can't have both, and still record my regular shows. So many great HDTV movies, and so little storage space. :(
 
So do you have to use windows in 16:9 (widescreen)?
or is it possible to shrink it down to the 4:3 (standard setting)? I know on our hd widescreen we can use different formats, like zoom, stretched, widescreen, and standard. Just curious.

Those things aren't as expensive as I thought, but they still run a good price.

http://www.epinions.com/Sony_KF_60X...on_Television_Televisions/display_~full_specs

on that page, it says, "The lowest base price is $4,195.00" That's pretty cheap for such a TV with that quality, it's only $900 more than our Receiver costs, and $2000 more than our HDTV.
 
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Originally posted by OmicroN
So do you have to use windows in 16:9 (widescreen)?
or is it possible to shrink it down to the 4:3 (standard setting)? I know on our hd widescreen we can use different formats, like zoom, stretched, widescreen, and standard. Just curious.

Those things aren't as expensive as I thought, but they still run a good price.

http://www.epinions.com/Sony_KF_60X...on_Television_Televisions/display_~full_specs

on that page, it says, "The lowest base price is $4,195.00" That's pretty cheap for such a TV with that quality, it's only $900 more than our Receiver costs, and $2000 more than our HDTV.

Since I am running the TV from the DVI output on my video card, I have very little screen control at the TV. I am running windows in a 16:9 aspect, which just means that I have more horizontal desktop space, it doesn't stretch the icons. The link you specified is for the XBR series, which is a step up from the TV I purchased! The XBR's from a authorized Sony dealer were just outside my budget. Some people have complained about bulbs burning out quickly, within a month of use. I haven't experienced that yet, lets hope I don't. From my understanding, Sony has isolated the problem with their ballist and have correct the problem.
 
Originally posted by Pako
That would be a 60 inch *cough* LCD Monitor *cough*

;)

Yeah, it is pretty increadable. If I can get a good picture of it with windows desktop, and maybe GTPlanet to show what the text looks like, I'll upload it.

:cheers:

I'll just take myself to the corner and sob then. :(

:P

Wish we had a Sony 60" lcd here in Aus, I believe there's a LG model, but that's the only one. :(
 
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