Nike ONE car!! So cool!

[Mr.Grandorifto]

Well, I hope you have a chance to read this, it get pretty technical at the end, but you guys can figure it out, eh?

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-Nike-ONE-Gran-Turismo.htm

I would like to know what you guys think about this, and if you think it would be a real car some day. My thoughts are that this is a little too far fetched for my liking. I know that there are ways to create electricity from presure, as well as four or five other ways, but I've never heard of a device that creates electricity using kinetic energy.

P.S. I hope this thread stays here since the main thing is about Gran Turismo 4, but just the Nike ONE car.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Ahahaha!! That was a fun read! Thanks!!

Far too far fetched, and it reminds me of an invention made in a South Park episode... Never mind..

 

[BobK]

Well, I hope you have a chance to read this, it get pretty technical at the end, but you guys can figure it out, eh?

http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/top-Nike-ONE-Gran-Turismo.htm

I would like to know what you guys think about this, and if you think it would be a real car some day. My thoughts are that this is a little too far fetched for my liking. I know that there are ways to create electricity from presure, as well as four or five other ways, but I've never heard of a device that creates electricity using kinetic energy.

P.S. I hope this thread stays here since the main thing is about Gran Turismo 4, but just the Nike ONE car.

Simply put, it's garbage.

One thing from the article in particular stands out: a population of 300 million producing 20 terawatts of power ("per day", whatever that means). So each person, on average, has to generate over 66 thousand watts. Or, if you prefer, 89 horsepower. However the average person can only generate a sustained 0.1 hp over an 8-hour period. A highly trained athlete can generate perhaps 0.4 hp sustained for eight hours.

Oh, and devices that convert kinetic energy into electricity have been around for a long time. We call them generators, dynamos and alternators.

 

[Mr.Grandorifto]

Oh, and devices that convert kinetic energy into electricity have been around for a long time. We call them generators, dynamos and alternators.

Well as far as I know, most generators, dynamos and alternators use a kinetic energy to spin a magnetic field in a coil of wire to create electricity. Spinning kinetic energy is not the same form of kinetic energy that is exerted by, say, kicking a soccer ball. So you can't very well strap a tiny alternator on you hips and start making electricity straight away. There needs to be more involved. It would make more sense to me that exercise could put pressure on certain parts of your clothing, and piezoelectric generators in those places could very well create electricity. If these hypothetical generators were sensitive enough, and if the clothing were tight enough, then the simple act of walking could conceivably create electricity. That is still not a direct translation of kinetic energy to electricity.

 

[Touring Mars]

If you haven't seen it already, you might also be interested in this thread where the Nike One designer himself, Phil Frank, makes a cameo appearance...

 

[Parnelli Bone]

All I have to say is: 500 years ago, if you told people you could make something run off of water, fire, and coal, most of them woulda laughed at you. Then the steam engine was invented. 120 years ago if you told most folks they'd soon not be using their horses as a major form of transportation half of them would have called you a fool. Then the gasoline engine was invented. I watched Star Trek when I was a kid. If you woulda told me I'd someday have my very own "handheld transmitter" that I could not only talk into, but send typed messages and photographs by I woulda said "no way!" Cell phones.

So I think it stands to reason that such an odd device as the Nike One certainly could become a reality in the future. I think it's better to have an open mind on the subject of technology cuz there's several billion of us on the planet right now, you never know which one of us will have that gateway idea that will change the way of life for the rest.

 

[Gil]

But in reality, it's just another car in GT4 that can be driven on a lot of tracks but not raced in GT mode.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

But in reality, it's just another car in GT4 that can be driven on a lot of tracks but not raced in GT mode.

Yeah I hate that. I STILL WANNA RACE MY PLYMOUTH PROWLER DAMNIT! Why can't I? All it does is sit in my garage collecting dust! How come cheaters can race an Excuso (a friggin rally car) on a road-coarse? How come you can race a Viper on a rally course in GT4? but I can't race my damn Prowler!

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Prowler=open top, visible front suspension=too many polygons. Same with the Caterham. And Tank Car. (Take a look at the suspension when that thing's moving. See why now?

 

[AOS-]

Far too far fetched, and it reminds me of an invention made in a South Park episode

Lol the "It". That thing is SO Fast but it required so many unneccesary and inappriopiate actions... hahaha

Yeah the NikeONe is pretty original looking, sounds cool, has a functional spoiler and the tires are "sleek"

 

[Gil]

Prowler=open top, visible front suspension=too many polygons. Same with the Caterham. And Tank Car. (Take a look at the suspension when that thing's moving. See why now?

And that matters to me Why?
In GT1 you could race all the available cars.
In GT2 you could race all the available cars.
In GT3 you could race all the available cars.
See why I I expect to race them all?
And with that reasoning the F1 car in GT4 and cars in GT3 have open tops, visible front and rear suspensions. Yet they are raceable.
The Auto Union car is limited in where it can race, no visible suspension...

 

[1st_G3ar]

But in reality, it's just another car in GT4 that can be driven on a lot of tracks but not raced in GT mode.

lmao that was the best reply to this topic

 

[Parnelli Bone]

And that matters to me Why?
In GT1 you could race all the available cars.
In GT2 you could race all the available cars.
In GT3 you could race all the available cars.
See why I I expect to race them all?
And with that reasoning the F1 car in GT4 and cars in GT3 have open tops, visible front and rear suspensions. Yet they are raceable.
The Auto Union car is limited in where it can race, no visible suspension...

...thank you...why put a car in the game, and then you can't even use it? I mean, I'm not gonna cry or anything but dang! It just kinda sucks.

 

[Gil]

I agree, I have been conditioned to expect to take the cars in my garage to the track and run them against other cars.

It is really annoying that you can drop major game dollars upgrading these cars only to find out they can not be raced.

I also miss the "info" button in GT2, that let you get some background on the cars.

GT4 has more cars with more divers and interesting history, and we get...nothing.
I may be the only one, but I truly dig/dug the "info" button in my GT2 garage.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I agree, I have been conditioned to expect to take the cars in my garage to the track and run them against other cars.

It is really annoying that you can drop major game dollars upgrading these cars only to find out they can not be raced.

I also miss the "info" button in GT2, that let you get some background on the cars.

GT4 has more cars with more divers and interesting history, and we get...nothing.
I may be the only one, but I truly dig/dug the "info" button in my GT2 garage.

I dig/dug them too. The specs & info pages in GT1 & GT2 got me re-interested in cars on a technical level. I used to read Road & Track as a kid & teen but let my subscription go when I went to college. This is gonna sound gay but I learned a lot of little facts from those info pages and (late in life) have become a mechanic for a living. I'd like to believe a videogame actually changed my life for the better!

...and I knew nothing of the NIKE One till I read the link posted in this thread since info pages are no longer included. 👎 All I knew is you could win it, and most people think it sucks.

 

[Gil]

I dig/dug them too. The specs & info pages in GT1 & GT2 got me re-interested in cars on a technical level. I used to read Road & Track as a kid & teen but let my subscription go when i went to college. This is gonna sound gay but i learned alot of little facts from those info pages and (late in life) have become a mechanic for a living. I'd like to believe a videogame actually changed my life for the better!

...and i knew nothing of the NIKE One till i read the link posted in this thread since info pages are no longer included. 👎 All i knew is you could win it, and most people think it sucks.

It is quite fast considering the palty bit of horsepower it makes.
But the only reason it sucks is that it's not usable for anything except a nice "Sunday Drive".

 

[toyota_gt1]

it's fast for what it is but in my opinion it's hideous.

 

[Alfaholic]

Well as far as I know, most generators, dynamos and alternators use a kinetic energy to spin a magnetic field in a coil of wire to create electricity. Spinning kinetic energy is not the same form of kinetic energy that is exerted by, say, kicking a soccer ball. So you can't very well strap a tiny alternator on you hips and start making electricity straight away. There needs to be more involved. It would make more sense to me that exercise could put pressure on certain parts of your clothing, and piezoelectric generators in those places could very well create electricity. If these hypothetical generators were sensitive enough, and if the clothing were tight enough, then the simple act of walking could conceivably create electricity. That is still not a direct translation of kinetic energy to electricity.

Kinetic energy is the energy possessed by a body due to its motion. I can't see the difference between that being linear motion or radial motion, and believe that the kinetic energy possessed by a spinning magnet is no different to the kinetic energy possessed by a flying football, or indeed the foot that kicked it. The simple act of walking could conceivably generate energy from a tiny spinning alternator. All you need is a way to convert the linear motion of some part of your body to radial motion. This is exactly what reciprocating piston engines have been doing for over a hundred years, or for a more visible example, find some movie of a steam locomotive and see how the drivetrain converts the linear motion of a piston into radial motion of the wheel. The only question would be if this is more or less efficient than the piezoelectric clothing, because the law of the conservation of energy dictates that whatever energy either of these systems converts to electricity has to come out of your body, so the only difference is how much is lost to heat etc.

 

[GrumpEone]

Very cool to look at, boring to drive.

I'm sure it's possible, as soon as you work out the anti-grav thing..