nismo gtr r tune
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- 30,008
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- JDA1982
just some general rules for 4wd cars including the Skylines. More specific settings would depend on the track and drivers preference.
Use sofer tyres on the front than the rear.
Set the front suspension harder than the rear by 1.0-2.0 have both over 15 for road use.
Set the front ride height higher than the rear by around 10-20mm.
Set the front brakes harder than the rear by between 2 and 5 set both over 10.
Get the VCD and change the power distribution to under 20% front.
Use sofer tyres on the front than the rear.
Set the front suspension harder than the rear by 1.0-2.0 have both over 15 for road use.
Set the front ride height higher than the rear by around 10-20mm.
Set the front brakes harder than the rear by between 2 and 5 set both over 10.
Get the VCD and change the power distribution to under 20% front.
- 30,008
- Cuddington, Cheshire
- JDA1982
Because the Skyline is already a RWD car with FWD only when it's needed, if you add the VCD your giving it 10% power to the front all the time which is worse than the setup it already has, I think they conflict as well beause even at 10/90 then it handles worse than other 4wd cars with the VCD at 10/90 but without the VCD it handes well.
First of all, I have no idea what sort of a awd system skyline uses. But my impression is that whatever clever diffs and electronics it has reapportion more than 10% of the torque to the front axle while taking a corner. As a result, putting in vcd and capping front-axis torque share at 10% is beneficial.
I have 7 different skylines in the game fully maxed out power-wise, all with vcd 10/90, and have seen absolutely no problems from them. They certainly handle as well as any other high-powered awd 10/90 car in the game, be it S4, EVO, WRX, 3000GT, or CTR2, if not better than all of them.
I have 7 different skylines in the game fully maxed out power-wise, all with vcd 10/90, and have seen absolutely no problems from them. They certainly handle as well as any other high-powered awd 10/90 car in the game, be it S4, EVO, WRX, 3000GT, or CTR2, if not better than all of them.
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Hi. I was just wondering whether anyone knew the best settings for the Nismo GTR-R tune. I've fully tuned mine and it still handles like a supermarket trolley.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks, James
Much better...
For future reference I would recommend avoiding semi-colons until you have a better grasp of the basics.
By the way, try GTVault for settings.
- 30,008
- Cuddington, Cheshire
- JDA1982
You clearly managed to ignor my post right above yours. The Skyline applies as much power as needed to the front, so if your going round a corner and the front needs 20% power, it will get 20% power, if you have the VCD and set it to 10% then it's not going to be at 20% like it needs to be most efective. Also your giving it power to the front all the time, so even round corners where the car would have no power sent to the front wheels, your still getting 10% power. And then theres the point about the two systems conflicting, which is what really screws the handling up.
You say you have no idfea about the Skylines awd system and then you say it IS beneficial to give it a VCD, well that proves you know nothing about the Skylines awd system, no, the VCD is not beneficial on a Skyline.
1. "As needed" means "as needed according to the sky's system" which does not necessarily mean the same thing as "as needed to have the fastest time around the track".
2. Are you telling me that the system would send NO power to the front wheels around corners? How do you know that? If anything I would expect it to send enough power to up front to cause safe understeer.
3. How do you know they conflict? I have seen absolutely nothing in the game to suggest that.
4. I might not know the particulars of the gt-r's awd system as I've never seen, let alone driven the car, but I am reasonably generalizing based on my overall knowledge of awd in real life, and what the game does with it. I have absolutely not seen anything that would support your assertion that "at 10/90 then it handles worse than other 4wd cars with the VCD at 10/90"?
What setting are you using besides vcd? And do you have some sort of empirical evidence that supports that running without vcd is faster?
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- Cuddington, Cheshire
- JDA1982
1. Power as needed in the Skylines sytem is the correct ammount of power to keep the car balanced and keep it's line round a corner, that equates to speed.
2. Yes round some corners there wouldn't need to be any power sent to the front wheels, note that it is some corners onyl. But the point I was amkin was that on some corners you will need less than 10% to be most effective and round others you will need more to be most effective, the Skylines system does that without any changes.
3. Try them yourself in the game, when you buy the VCD for the Skyline, the car handes fine withuot but as soon as you add the VCD it goes all tits up. Other 4wd cars handle better with the VCD so it's reasonable to assume that addig the VCD doesn't replace the original system in GT3, it goes along side it and that causes some odd and awful handling character.
4. Again your using your knowledge of 4wd to come to your conclusions, I've already said, that doesn't apply here, remember GT3 is a game and it has it's faults and the VCD makes the Skyline crap, and as I've already said, the standard system is better than a VCD in the first place, see point for why. And any settings screw it up, just adding the VCD screws it all up no matter what setting you give it.
Ok, I just ran it without VCD and have to say that we are both partially right.
I ran a fully modded (except Turbo4) 711bhp R34 GTR V-Spec II on T3s through Laguna with VCD and without. The setup as far as I can tell is Fumes' off GTVault with front camber upped to 3. With VCD fitted it behaves like any other high-powered awd car in the game. I ran 1.22.526.
Then I took VCD off and tried running it. Without VCD, the thing behave like a reasonably well balanced rwd car with highish LSD. You appear to be completely right in that not only doesn't it understeer more than a VCDed version, but is actually quite oversteery. Now, the times were about a second or two off VCDed times because without it the car is not as good at putting the power down, but this can partially be explained by the fact that the setup was designed with VCD in mind.
My guess at this point, and I'll play around with the car some more later, is that at lower bhp levels the car will be faster without VCD, and at higher levels (800-1000+bhp) the car will benefit more from VCD with 10/90 split.
I ran a fully modded (except Turbo4) 711bhp R34 GTR V-Spec II on T3s through Laguna with VCD and without. The setup as far as I can tell is Fumes' off GTVault with front camber upped to 3. With VCD fitted it behaves like any other high-powered awd car in the game. I ran 1.22.526.
Then I took VCD off and tried running it. Without VCD, the thing behave like a reasonably well balanced rwd car with highish LSD. You appear to be completely right in that not only doesn't it understeer more than a VCDed version, but is actually quite oversteery. Now, the times were about a second or two off VCDed times because without it the car is not as good at putting the power down, but this can partially be explained by the fact that the setup was designed with VCD in mind.
My guess at this point, and I'll play around with the car some more later, is that at lower bhp levels the car will be faster without VCD, and at higher levels (800-1000+bhp) the car will benefit more from VCD with 10/90 split.
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