Nose-diving MiTo

[GBO Possum]

Does "MiTo" mean "Maybe I Turn Over"? (Just kidding)

This video is on Alsace, the car was better behaved elsewhere

Very short video follows. The tires are RH front and rear. Any ideas as to the cause? No other car has behaved this way, so I don't think it's a wheel/pedal hardware issue

 

[Alpha Cipher]

I think it's soft suspension and high ride height + elevation changes of Alsace village

 

[Johnnypenso]

Does "MiTo" mean "Maybe I Turn Over"? (Just kidding)

This video is on Alsace, the car was better behaved elsewhere

Very short video follows. The tires are RH front and rear. Any ideas as to the cause? No other car has behaved this way, so I don't think it's a wheel/pedal hardware issue

You have a street car with soft suspension heading downhill equipped with tires that are far stickier than it was designed to handle. Not much of a mystery really. You should try it with soft racing tires, maybe you can make it flip right over.

 

[DriftMethod]

You have a street car with soft suspension heading downhill equipped with tires that are far stickier than it was designed to handle. Not much of a mystery really. You should try it with soft racing tires, maybe you can make it flip right over.

There needs to be a trophy for a forward roll!

 

[Johnnypenso]

There needs to be a trophy for a forward roll!

I remember it being a thing in Forza, stoppies that is:

 

[VXR]

Pretty sure the 500 did this in GT6, too. So we have three games on three different consoles doing similar things. A physics limitation often overlooked?

 

[KingFrog]

I was just thinking about this last night. If a small car theoretically had super grippy tires and great breaks would if flip like a bike? Now I'm curious! I think in real life something would break.

 

[GBO Possum]

Thank you all for your helpful insights.

I've owned a number of FWD cars, and never had both rear wheels off the ground at the same time, let alone two feet off the tarmac! However, I am thinking it's a combination of FWD and downslope braking with some maybe over-aggressive simulation algorithms.

The MiTo behaved normally on Monza (with chicane) with RH tires. In fact, it was quite nice to drive and felt distinctly like a real FWD car.

I had to give up on Alsace, the MiTo was just too unstable, so I moved on to...

...the Toyota GRMN, which behaved normally under braking on Alsace with RH tires

I think I'll experiment with other FWD cars in the same weight/power range on tracks with downhill corners.

 

[iamjajo]

It's fun to watch. Maybe weight distribution and spring rate have something to do with it. Or, maybe it's showing a developer's sense of humor.

 

[spidermonkey]

That is hilarious...gonna have to try this now.

 

[GBO Possum]

That is hilarious...gonna have to try this now.

As I recall, the only “tuning” I did was to slide the weight down and maybe play with the power slider. And RH tires. Good luck!

 

[Lebowski]

I was just thinking about this last night. If a small car theoretically had super grippy tires and great breaks would if flip like a bike? Now I'm curious! I think in real life something would break.

Many years back our company had a couple of Sooty Mobiles, aka the Bedford Rascal. These death traps had the engine under the front seats, a large capacity of air in the back and a windscreen so close it was like wearing glasses. We messed about in one one day to see if we could get air over a speed bump near the sea front in my home town and damn that thing flew and when we landed I stamped on the brakes and, well, it did a full barrel roll!

 

[oinksnork]

This might not have grippy tires and great brakes, but is in other ways modified to attend on its front wheels: De RollGolf.