Obutto Cockpit On The Way!!

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Well, I finally came off the cash and placed my order yesterday for an Obutto......clicky if you haven't seen one yet: www.obutto.com

I bought the Logitech G25 wheel last month and was immediately disappointed to that my coffee table would not serve as a decent mounting surface. Rather than fabricating one, I decided to just take the plunge and purchase one that's received some decent reviews here.

I'm so pumped about having a real chassis/wheel setup! I may have to take a day off once the Obutto arrives just to enjoy it!
 
Where did you order it from, and how much was it with the shipping included. I have a playseat, but would rather have an obutto if I can find someone to buy my playseat.
 
The link I posted didn't work. I suck at inserting links. Here's the Obutto address www.obutto.com/home.html.

The total order with shipping cost me 339USD. I corresponded with Chris Dunagan (chris@obutto.com) to place the order and sent the money via PayPal to his email address. Order was placed Monday morning. According to the Fedex tracking info he gave me, I'll receive the chair either Monday July 28th or the next day latest.

Chris gave timely responses to my questions and furnished the tracking number the day after I placed the order.

Hope this helps.
 
The link I posted didn't work. I suck at inserting links. Here's the Obutto address www.obutto.com/home.html.

The total order with shipping cost me 339USD. I corresponded with Chris Dunagan (chris@obutto.com) to place the order and sent the money via PayPal to his email address. Order was placed Monday morning. According to the Fedex tracking info he gave me, I'll receive the chair either Monday July 28th or the next day latest.

Chris gave timely responses to my questions and furnished the tracking number the day after I placed the order.

Hope this helps.
I edited your link, take a look at how it's done.
 
Thank you!

I just checked Fedex for an update. I placed the order Monday morning. The chair was delivered to Fedex Tuesday afternoon in ISSAQUAH, WA. As of this update, it's in Nashville, TN.

I'll update as this progresses. Fedex estimates delivery will take place this Monday some time.

I'm posting this information for the benefit of those who might be considering buying one of these chairs. In addition to a product review, I always like to know how the vendor performed overall.
 
Welcome to the club. You will enjoy your purchase more than you expected once you open that big ass box! The quality and stability is amazing along with the additional options (platform for monitor & keyboard if needed) is a nice touch.
 
I hope you're right. I'm a big guy weighing in at roughly 230#. That along with the negative comments I read on the Playseat is why I went with this chassis. On road courses I get pretty physical with the steering wheel and the shifter.

The box is in Birmingham, AL and set for delivery some time today. I almost called in sick this morning. But, I can't do that. I'll just have to wait until this evening to try out the new ride.

More to follow.....
 
Got the chassis set up with the Logitech G25 components last night and I have to say I am fairly pleased with the results. My observations:

- The box had taken a bit of abuse enroute from Washington state to Alabama, courtesy Fedex Ground Freight. Otherwise, all components were in fine shape upon arrival in spite of a couple of half-fist sized holes in the shipping box.

- Assembly: I might have spent 45 minutes assembling the chassis from start to finish. The most time consuming part was removing the plastic wrap from each component. The only difficulty I encountered was mounting the steering wheel mount which means the two pipes that support the steering wheel mount have to be inserted into and slid inside the chassis base risers. I recommend having a can of WD-40 on hand to make this easier. Some rusty dust was forced out of a couple of tubes as I pieced components together. It's steel. It's normal. But, just be aware that you might not want to perform assembly on your wife's new carpet. And, keep an old towel handy to wipe grease/grime from your hands and to wipe down the completed assembly. This is not a complaint. Just be prepared for a bit of grime and some lubricant on your hands during assembly. The chassis is safe for use on a carpeted surface once assembled. I almost forgot to add this next part. Mounting the seat isn't very difficult. But, there is potential for interference between the heads of the mounting bolts and the heads of the fasteners holding the seat to the seat slide components. When you get to this part of the assembly, just put the mounting bolts in per the instructions and get the spring washers and nuts started. Then, roll the whole assembly on its side and begin tightening the fasteners. The process of tighening the fasteners should pull the bolt heads down enough to resolve the bolt head interference allowing for free adjustment of the seat position. Overall assembly was a breeze.

- Overall stability/feel: The chassis is very sturdy. The tube and pipe construction works well. In my opinion, this is due to the way the parts go together but more so to the wall thickness chosen for use. Wall thickness is critical to structural soundnesss - nicely done.

- The seat is very comfortable and holds my 230# frame well. It adjusts forward and backward nicely.

- The mount for the shifter is an easy reach as it falls close to my elbow to wrist length so it's comfortable. I have it mounted on the right side of the chassis.

- The keyboard/mouse table is a very convenient surface to lay a drink, my cell phone, the PS3 controller, and the remote for my surround system. I'm very glad it's there.

- I have not used the monitor stand. So, it's pushed all the way down in position. As of this writing, my Obutto is nosed up to my 40" LCD crowding what little walking space I have in my living room. Single guys can get away with this. You married fellas might wanna consider space requirements before ordering.

- While the chassis is both comfortable and sturdy, I am working on finding the right distances and heights for the pedals versus the seat and the steering wheel height. I would prefer to have the steering wheel as low as possible. However, in doing this, it is necessary for me to back the seat up a bit putting me a little too far from the pedals. So, I'm working on this.

- The pedal platform is nice and sturdy. But, even with the carpet grabber locked into position I still manage to move the pedals around to the point that I have to stop and reposition the pedals. Otherwise, my clutch foot hits the left side of the chassis frame after a few laps causing me to miss gears. I am going to install 3 wooden blocks (at the left, right, and front of the pedal component) on the pedal mount to stop the movement so that the pedal component is locked into place. This idea requires drilling a few holes through the pedal mount. But, it'll be a worthwhile modification. Once the blocks are in place, pedal problems will cease to be a factor.

- Wearing an old pair of house shoes (slippers if you will), keeping my right foot half on the brake and half on the accelerator works well making downshifting for corners a big thrill. Once the pedal movement is resolved, this will get even better. I climbed into one of my favorite cars, my 2004 Integra, and went online for a free run at Suzuka Circuit. That was the most fun I've had with GT5P since getting the game. The Obutto is definately worth the money spent. I plan to spend a whole lot of time turning laps in this new toy of mine.

That's it for now, I'll come back and add more as I have time or new thoughts. Feel free to ask about things I overlooked. I'll be glad to answer questions.
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I've had some correspondence with Chris at Obutto today and shared my write up with him. Part of his response included this:

"To help you with the pedal slippage, a pal of mine in beijing gets this too, even though I never do. Anyhow, the G25 pedals have hard mounting holes on the bottom so it might be best to just drill some holes and run some bolts up through the bottom of the pedal tray and into the mounting holes on the underside of the G25 pedal assembly. I believe there are 6 holes for this.

Regarding your driving position, I know it's a big change but you might think about trying the steering wheel height in a higher position like in a real race car (Touring, DTM, WRC or F1). The reason race car drivers have the steering wheel so high is so they can use the big muscles in their back and have more leverage on the wheel. I know this is just a game and the forces are nothing like in a real race car, but it is proven that using the big muscles give better control, and during long races you will not fatigue so easily. The proper race driving position is explained on my site, but in short the center of the steering wheel should be near the bottom of your collar bone, and the distance of your body to the steering wheel should set your arms at appx 90-100 degree bends at the elbows when holding the steering wheel at 10 & 2 or 9 & 3."

It's nice to get responses so quickly and in-depth as Chris'. It's rather refreshing.

I strongly recommend this chassis if you don't feel inclined to fabricate your own. I cannot offer an opinion about other models. But, I am very happy with the Obutto so far. I'll see about taking a couple of pics and posting them here later.
 
I know I'm posting on top of posts here. Forgive me.

If anyone knows I would appreciate a response to this question: Are the holes on the bottom of the G25 pedal assembly blank mounting holes or are they threaded already? If you've mounted using them, what size fastener did you use? Thread type/count/length would be helpful and save me a trip home to find out before going to the hardware store. Thanks!

I'm guessing they are blank holes in which a self-tapping machine screw would be fine as long as the screw is sized to match.
 
I myself have the pedals bolted down on my Obutto. Here is a link for some templates you can print out and use http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/logitech_en_amr.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5475 the bolt/screw size is 6mm with 1.0 mm pitch a 35mm length should do fine

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Dude you stole my ride!!

Thanks Oner, I went to Lowe's last night and got the hardware. Now, everything is bolted in place (steering wheel too). Got all the cables secured in place to cut down on the mess. Time to race.

I raised the steering wheel up a bit and moved my seat up a nudge to get closer to the settings Chris had suggested. It does seem to work better once I adjusted to the new settings.

I'm off to the races!
 
I found out after investigating the components a bit more that the wheel has 2 mounting points toward the front - same size fastener that works for the pedal component works with it. So, now that everything is bolted on securely and all the wires are cleanly afixed it's time to really enjoy the new setup.

Last night was my first full night of wheel time with the new cockpit. One word comes to mind when I compare this experience to how playing GT5P was before - Control. At least now I have more opportunity to learn what control means. The excuses about an inadequate setup are no longer available to me. So, any failures are simply a product of my lack of skill.

And, sadly, I found out last night that I have a lot to learn about racing. Game on.
 
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