Online Endurance races?

[Peissi]

I just started wondering, that will we see online endurance races in GT5? I don't know how many are interested but I wouldn't mind driving a 100 laps around Daytona or 72 in Monaco. I guess the only problem would be punters and penalties - how to make it enjoyable?

Open for ideas!

 

[JohnBM01]

It's a great possibility. Online adds all kinds of elements and ideas to the forefront. I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of them. I'm not sure if, for example, there's a LAN race at a mall or someplace lasting about an hour. The possibility of online endurances is pretty possible.

 

[Daniel_Elessar]

it's possible and a great enjoyment. if after all the drivers take it more serious than just being punters. i would love to race a 30-60 laps on well most of the circuits.

Also i would like to see championships over well.. 4/9 diffrent tracks?
it would be really exciting.

 

[Ardius]

Being able to do the Le Mans 24 Hours online with driver changes would be ace 👍

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

I'd love online enduros, it would make my planned V8 Supercars International Series that much more interesting, with the pinnacle enduros of the season.

It's a great possibility. Online adds all kinds of elements and ideas to the forefront. I wouldn't be surprised if this was one of them. I'm not sure if, for example, there's a LAN race at a mall or someplace lasting about an hour. The possibility of online endurances is pretty possible.

That's the shortest post I've ever seen you do.

Being able to do the Le Mans 24 Hours online with driver changes would be ace 👍

Maybe if we had 8 drivers/car. (Still 3hrs each)

 

[Ardius]

Maybe if we had 8 drivers/car. (Still 3hrs each)

Nonsense, 3 or 4 drivers, each take turns doing 2 hour or 3 hour stints and rotate.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Nonsense, 3 or 4 drivers, each take turns doing 2 hour or 3 hour stints and rotate.

Are you going to wake up at 7 in the morning, do your stint, stay up until 4pm and do another stint, then go to sleep and wake up at 1am to do another stint?

 

[Ardius]

Are you going to wake up at 7 in the morning, do your stint, stay up until 4pm and do another stint, then go to sleep and wake up at 1am to do another stint?

Hell yes. Didn't you notice? We're hardcore drivers here! Obviously, it would have to be planned well in advance.

 

[amar212]

Being able to do the Le Mans 24 Hours online with driver changes would be ace 👍

Will happen 99%.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Must ... resist .. urge ... to ... turn off ... ps3 ... on .. last ... lap ...

 

[CyborgGT]

Nonsense, 3 or 4 drivers, each take turns doing 2 hour or 3 hour stints and rotate.

Are you going to wake up at 7 in the morning, do your stint, stay up until 4pm and do another stint, then go to sleep and wake up at 1am to do another stint?

Hell yes. Didn't you notice? We're hardcore drivers here! Obviously, it would have to be planned well in advance.

Not to mention it would have to be in the summer, when hopefully everyone's out of school. And run on days when everyone's simultaneously off of work, which could present a slight problem if all the racers aren't in the same part of the world. Whether or not this could actually be pulled off, I really hope the option is still there. If a group of people were to pull it off, that would be an amazing feat, imo.

 

[Ardius]

Not to mention it would have to be in the summer, when hopefully everyone's out of school. And run on days when everyone's simultaneously off of work, which could present a slight problem if all the racers aren't in the same part of the world. Whether or not this could actually be pulled off, I really hope the option is still there. If a group of people were to pull it off, that would be an amazing feat, imo.

Easy - Saturday, starting at 12:00 and finishing at 12:00 Sunday. But I agree it would take quite some organising, and we would probably have to make it only an annual or occasional event. (perhaps we could run it along side the real race, like the weekend before or after?). Or maybe hold several 24 hour races over the year as a series? Spa 24 hours, Nurburgring 24 hours, Daytona 24 hours, Silverstone 24 hours, etc.
We'd most certainly have to get several people to film it as well, it would be epic.

 

[JohnBM01]

It's the shortest because I didn't have anything really detailed to say. By the way, THIS was the shortest post I ever made in my 4 years, [going on] 9 months on GTPlanet:

"Oh." -me from 200?

Think about it like this. I've heard of people playing first-person shooters and such all night long. So why not racing all night long? Imagine three people at different places all compete in a long online race. Three people times 16 cars to a track means a total of 48 people all part of an endurance race. Can you imagine this? I say teams because not everybody is hardcore to the point where they drink Bawls all day long trying to complete a long race. It's still very possible.

 

[homeforsummer]

I'd have no problems doing a 2 hour endurance online, I'd be sure that many on this forum have spent that amount of time in a row (or more) racing online anyway so doing it in one race would be fine!

 

[Ardius]

It's the shortest because I didn't have anything really detailed to say. By the way, THIS was the shortest post I ever made in my 4 years, [going on] 9 months on GTPlanet:

"Oh." -me from 200?

Think about it like this. I've heard of people playing first-person shooters and such all night long. So why not racing all night long? Imagine three people at different places all compete in a long online race. Three people times 16 cars to a track means a total of 48 people all part of an endurance race. Can you imagine this? I say teams because not everybody is hardcore to the point where they drink Bawls all day long trying to complete a long race. It's still very possible.

Exactly, thats what I was thinking, 16 teams, with 3 or 4 drivers and one or two classes (maybe have two races, one running LMP1 + LMP2 and the other running GT1 + GT2, or 4 races, one for each class).
I think quite a few people would be up for it, not everyone obviously, but the interest is definitely there I think. Would be interesting to see how each team goes about practicing for the event, going through tactics, strategies, etc. Voice comms might be crucial, so people know when to pit for the driver swap.
Maybe if GT added some kind of team principal ability, so someone could oversee the race and give advice to the driver and give important info like split times to various cars and overall pace and performance.

A lot of potential here. This all depends on whether GT5 gives us the option for driver swaps when pitting. I'm not sure as many people would be as keen to do the whole 24 hours without breaks.

 

[Tobias123]

Exactly, thats what I was thinking, 16 teams, with 3 or 4 drivers and one or two classes (maybe have two races, one running LMP1 + LMP2 and the other running GT1 + GT2, or 4 races, one for each class).
I think quite a few people would be up for it, not everyone obviously, but the interest is definitely there I think. Would be interesting to see how each team goes about practicing for the event, going through tactics, strategies, etc. Voice comms might be crucial, so people know when to pit for the driver swap.
Maybe if GT added some kind of team principal ability, so someone could oversee the race and give advice to the driver and give important info like split times to various cars and overall pace and performance.

A lot of potential here. This all depends on whether GT5 gives us the option for driver swaps when pitting. I'm not sure as many people would be as keen to do the whole 24 hours without breaks.

I'm thinking a 24 hour online race with driver swaps might be far too much to hope for from Polyphony, unfortunately. However they did say that they are planning on adding features like team building and stuff, so we'll most likely be able to have team races and championships and stuff. Personally, I would love 2 hour endurance races online, especially around a track like El Capitan(driving a Lotus Elise around that track = driving Heaven in my opinion.)

 

[Ardius]

I'm thinking a 24 hour online race with driver swaps might be far too much to hope for from Polyphony, unfortunately. However they did say that they are planning on adding features like team building and stuff, so we'll most likely be able to have team races and championships and stuff. Personally, I would love 2 hour endurance races online, especially around a track like El Capitan(driving a Lotus Elise around that track = driving Heaven in my opinion.)

I dont think they actually said anything, at least not in interview, but it did appear on that slideshow presentation photo, along with private rooms and all that.
I have a bit of faith in Polyphony to take their online feature as far as they can go, clearly they've left it till GT5/GT5 Prologue because they felt they couldn't do it justice before and now they feel they can create a unique experience. I am willing to bet we will see some very interesting online features somewhere along the line.
We shall see, but we can always discuss how they would go about it, can't we?

 

[Tobias123]

I dont think they actually said anything, at least not in interview, but it did appear on that slideshow presentation photo, along with private rooms and all that.
I have a bit of faith in Polyphony to take their online feature as far as they can go, clearly they've left it till GT5/GT5 Prologue because they felt they couldn't do it justice before and now they feel they can create a unique experience. I am willing to bet we will see some very interesting online features somewhere along the line.
We shall see, but we can always discuss how they would go about it, can't we?

Yes we can, I enjoy discussing it though, and I don't let my hopes get up too far, so I'm rarely disappointed. The way I see it, anything they add after damage and pit stops is a bonus(though I would LOVE to be able to buy Aero Kits for my cars). Polyphony has never disappointed me before, and I doubt they will start now.

 

[BlackBullet]

IMO it could be really great! 👍

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Easy - Saturday, starting at 12:00 and finishing at 12:00 Sunday. But I agree it would take quite some organising, and we would probably have to make it only an annual or occasional event. (perhaps we could run it along side the real race, like the weekend before or after?). Or maybe hold several 24 hour races over the year as a series? Spa 24 hours, Nurburgring 24 hours, Daytona 24 hours, Silverstone 24 hours, etc.
We'd most certainly have to get several people to film it as well, it would be epic.

Sunday 12:00 for you is 22:00 for me, and I work on Monday, so unless you did that stint, it aint happening. You'd also have to tell me how we finished.

 

[Ardius]

Sunday 12:00 for you is 22:00 for me, and I work on Monday, so unless you did that stint, it aint happening. You'd also have to tell me how we finished.

It could arranged either way, time differences would also be quite handy for driver changes actually, maybe you could have 2 drivers tackle the day 2 tackle the night. There are lots of possibilities and strategies, its what makes endurance racing so interesting!

Another element that would be necessary is damage, that is to say mechanical damage. A large part of endurance racing is keeping the car and engine going for the whole length, not driving the engine too hard and keeping the tyres in good condition for as long as possible. A whole different driving style to hotlapping or sprint racing.
Even if we don't get exterior damage to the cars in GT5, it would be great to have mechanical damage at the very least.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Even if we don't get exterior damage to the cars in GT5, it would be great to have mechanical damage at the very least.

This prospect keeps me awake at night, filled with THE FEAR

My clutch will last approximately 2 corners

 

[Ardius]

This prospect keeps me awake at night, filled with THE FEAR

My clutch will last approximately 2 corners

Excellent, another position gained by me and I don't even have to drive fast
I would like to point out that I wouldn't want random mechanical failures though, it has to be from how the driver handles the car. F1:CE's "random" mechanical failures are very annoying especially because it seems to increase the chances if you dominate the AI.

 

[MC CAULEY]

I would be up for endurance races, of any lenght. PD would have to bring in Day and Night changes during the races, or it would take away for the realism. Someone talked about mancanical damage on cars. This could be done by having a setting for the engien were you can pick the % of engien reves for any given race. 98%/100% reves for a 3 lap race. 95%/97% for any race up to 15 laps. 92%/94% for races up to 35 laps and then -85%/91% for any race over 35 laps. This setting would have to run along with a engien cooling setting. The higher the settings %, the less air cooling the engien and less drag (better top end). The lower the % the more air cooling the engien but more drag (lower top end). The cars would have to be given a maximum temperature and time that they can run at that temperature. It would be intresting finding the balancing point between the two. Maybe even a temperature gauge to let you know that things are getting too hot and so have to start short shiftting to regulate the temperature.

But as long as there are pit stops, tyre changes, refuling and a pitlane speedlimiter botton that you have to press then I will be the happiest man in the world. Bloody brillant.

 

[Lemminkainen]

Hell yes. Didn't you notice? We're hardcore drivers here! Obviously, it would have to be planned well in advance.

I'm with you Ardius! I'll wake up at 2am to do my stint...

On kind of a side note though, it's this idea of a 24-hour race that always makes me wonder about damage. How are we going to like real damage if after 22 hours into the race at Le Mans, you get into Tetre Rouge a little too hot, clout the front of the car against the armco, and your race is done? Would your race partners ever speak to you again?

How about real mechanical failures too? Maybe your crash at Tetre Rouge would happen because of a flat from the sharp gravel, or because that same gravel just tore through a brake line as you crested the hill at the dunlop bridge...

Then again, it would truly bring a realism to the race to have to experience the pain of a DNF after 22 hours...

Sorry, didn't mean to digress so much there. I am totally ready for running 24h online!

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Excellent, another position gained by me and I don't even have to drive fast

Racing against me is already like that, even without the damage

 

[Ardius]

^You'll have to work on your endurance driving skills then, eh, Pent? I'll remember not to take you on as a teammate then

I'm with you Ardius! I'll wake up at 2am to do my stint...

On kind of a side note though, it's this idea of a 24-hour race that always makes me wonder about damage. How are we going to like real damage if after 22 hours into the race at Le Mans, you get into Tetre Rouge a little too hot, clout the front of the car against the armco, and your race is done? Would your race partners ever speak to you again?

How about real mechanical failures too? Maybe your crash at Tetre Rouge would happen because of a flat from the sharp gravel, or because that same gravel just tore through a brake line as you crested the hill at the dunlop bridge...

Then again, it would truly bring a realism to the race to have to experience the pain of a DNF after 22 hours...

Sorry, didn't mean to digress so much there. I am totally ready for running 24h online!

I think its pretty likely we would turn off certain types of damage for a 24 hour race or at least allow people to respawn on the track and be forced to make a pit or something like that.
I'm all up for racing 100% realisitic race, but, yeah, it would be pretty evil to have a DNF 22 hours in.

 

[Lemminkainen]

I think its pretty likely we would turn off certain types of damage for a 24 hour race or at least allow people to respawn on the track and be forced to make a pit or something like that.
I'm all up for racing 100% realisitic race, but, yeah, it would be pretty evil to have a DNF 22 hours in.

hmmm... not a bad idea actually. Just like in real life, maybe you would have to poke all the way around the rest of the track at 10mph until you got back to the pit for repairs. At least you could keep going that way.

 

[NapoleonMikey]

this would be an awesome feature to add. i know i could get a few friends together one weekend and we would have fun doing a few stints each all weekend. mater of fact we just did something like this a few weekends ago where we all gathered at a freinds house and pulled all nighters playing racing games. by far turning this into a full blown competion like that i would definatly have to coach my friends on how to drive in an endurance race because im sure they would destroy the car after 20 mins into there stint.

but if PD could pull this off i would be all for it and i know several friends of mine that would be too.