Opel/Vauxhall Astra OPC/VXR, the new king of the FF hot hatch brigade?

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The new Opel Astra OPC/Vauxhall Astra VXR has been released recently. I haven't read any in-depth tests yet, but there are a lot of initial road tests by several reporters from different magazines and websites all over Europe, and all of them think it's good. Really good. Good as in: perhaps Renault should start worrying. :D

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In this thread, we already discussed whether Opel/Vauxhall could ever be cool, and the general consensus was 'NO!'. But with Opel/Vauxhalls recent efforts (the Corsa OPC NE was also received really well 👍), is there a chance the tides for them are changing? Or are these just the last shivers of a dying company?

After watching some of the initial reviews I'm tempted. Not convinced yet, but definitely tempted. :D

 
A few of the English mags have driven it, though I've not seen any comparison tests yet. Not sure it's Renault-worryingly good* - the tests I have seen suggest Vauxhall hasn't been quite as able to handle torque steer as Renault has - but I expect it's hugely better than the last Astra VXR.

And no, they still aren't cool. Unfortunately for Vauxhall, they can continue making better and better cars, but they'll still be the car of choice for complete nobbers who think they own the roads. It's nothing to do with the cars themselves any more, so much as the general perception of their owners. And while it's unfair tarring all Vauxhall owners with the same brush, that's unfortunately indicative of just how many absolute cretins buy the things. The majority spoils it for the minority.

*And unfortunately for Opel/Vauxhall, they've hit the Megane mid-cycle (and Ford at the beginning of a model cycle). Does anyone not expect the next RenaultSport Megane (/Focus RS, if they make one...) to be anything other than class-leading once again?...
 
I think Opel/Vauxhall should make up their mind and decide where they want to be. Obviously, they can make great cars if they want to, but perhaps this is more the result of OPC GmbH, rather than Opel or GM.

Personally, I don't give a 🤬 about brand identity: a brand can make a thousand crappy models, and be generally despised, but if they make one great model, I'll still consider it. But that's definitely not the case for the other 99,99999999999% of the population.

A few of the English mags have driven it, though I've not seen any comparison tests yet. Not sure it's Renault-worryingly good* - the tests I have seen suggest Vauxhall hasn't been quite as able to handle torque steer as Renault has - but I expect it's hugely better than the last Astra VXR.
The test I read/watched said they were pretty impressed with how the Astra manages torque-steer. Then again, torque delivery of the Astra is not very lineair (unlike the Renault), with a definite spike at 4k-ish. It was more or less the same with the Corsa OPC I owned (which I had tuned out quite nicely to be linear BTW, so it's not the end of the world :D).
 
Unfortunately, the first drives of the Focus ST are also starting to come in. And apparently, it's being heralded as new all-rounder of today...which is annoying. I'd still take a GTI. But it does mean Vauxhall has been very unfortunately overshadowed with their launch of the GTC VXR.

It does look fairly nice in places and it will certainly be fast but it isn't that perfect and it is somewhat pricey supposedly. So, Megane RS still for me.
 
Haven't seen any Focus ST tests to be honest, look forward to seeing those as well. 👍 To me the GTI is starting to become one of the bottom-enders in the segment, would never consider it given the alternatives.

Can't argue about the Astra OPC price: it's damn' high! Then again, it's pretty loaded and to bring a Mégane RS to the same level would mean the price difference is negligible. (Over here at least, not sure about UK or other countries).
 
That's actually the trouble with all those cars. I'm not about to start complaining that I'm not rich enough, as ultimately that's my own doing, but I remember when the top-level hot hatchbacks were like £15k. Now they're double that, and although power has pretty much doubled too, that's still a lot to pay for a class that used to represent "affordable" performance.

Really, the class down (Clio, Corsa etc) is more realistic now. And genuinely, a class down from that (Suzuki Swift Sport, Renault Twingo Renaultsport) are the true affordable performance cars, at around £12k. They're ones you can realistically buy and insure in your early 20s (like I did with my old Panda 100HP!).
 
I can say from experience the segment down is at least as fun, especially with the turbocharged engines that respond really well to tuning, so you can get them to be as fast as their bigger brothers/sisters.

The new Clio is looking lovely, but I wonder about the RS version, which will get a 1.6 turbo (a modified version of the Nissan Juke engine) and a dual-clutch semi-auto paddle transmission. But I guess the Clio IV would deserve its own thread. ;)
 
Heh, I expect it'll get one! I dunno, I've high hopes for the next Clio RS. Not expecting Renault to suddenly lose the knack for awesome hot hatches, at any rate...
 
After driving a Corsa VXR Nurb I've become obsessed with Vauxhalls and this car looked to be the new king judging from all the stuff before people had driven it. Now it seems like it's a vert good car, but not up there with the Megane and Focus for fun/dynamics, and not up to the quality of the Golf.

I agree with HfS, though hot hatches are too expensive nowadays (as are the equivalent normal versions of the cars). Full-size hot hatches seem to be the new mid-life crisis cars in Britain from what I see everyday. Or is that just me?
 
New Astra
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GM HOLDEN’S all-important new-generation Astra hatchback has started to roll into Australian showrooms, and it is charged with clawing back sales, and credibility, for the lion brand Down Under.

The new five-door, Polish-sourced Astra hatch will be Holden’s sole contender in the super competitive small-car segment following the end of Australian Cruze sedan and hatch production last month.

As previously reported, the Astra will be offered in three grades – R, RS and RS-V – with a choice of two turbo-petrol engines and manual or automatic transmissions.

It will be pitched at a number of the big hitters in the segment, with Holden pinpointing the “aspirational” Mazda3 and Volkswagen Golf as its key rivals.

Speaking with GoAuto at the national media launch in Canberra this week, Holden executive director of sales Peter Keley said the new Astra was the embodiment of what the car-maker stands for.

“What does Holden stand for from a product point of view? Great design, great to drive and appropriate technology. This car has that,” he said. “It’s definitely great to drive and while it is subjective, it has been very positively received from a looks point of view. The technology is right up there. It is what a Holden is supposed to be.”

Pricing starts at $21,990 plus on-road costs for the base R manual, before stepping up to the RS manual at $26,490 and hitting $30,990 for the top-spec RS-V. Opting for an auto in any of the variants adds $2200 to the price.

Mr Keley said the Astra would not play in the sub-$20,000 small-car market, adding that the price point for the new-gen model was more profitable.

“$19,990 used to be the sweet spot and that has dissipated some time ago and occasionally our competitors are there. We are there with Cruze obviously. But, going forward, you are going to see that this plus-$20,000 is where the market is.”

Mr Keley’s comments reflect similar moves by other car-makers to position their small-car offerings away from the sub-$20,000 brigade, including Ford, which upped the price of its base Focus last year to $23,390.

Other rivals in the starting price range include the new Honda Civic ($22,390), the new Renault Megane ($22,490) and the VW Golf ($22,840).

Holden executives said that the R will be the most popular variant and is expected to capture 45-50 per cent of all Astra five-door sales, followed by the RS-V on 30-35 per cent and the mid-spec RS on 10-15 per cent.

The Astra is smaller in almost all exterior dimensions when compared with the five-door model it replaces – 1809mm wide (-5mm), 4386mm long (-33mm), 1485mm high (-25mm) and 2662mm wheelbase (-23mm) – but the interior space has increased.

A new lightweight architecture using an ultra high-strength steel safety cage, and lightweight suspension components has meant a weight saving of up to 140kg over the old Astra hatch. The models range in weight from 1283kg for the base R manual up to 1363kg for the auto RS-V.

Like some other competing brands’ models, the Astra underwent engineering and testing in Australia to ensure its ride and handling characteristics matched local consumer expectations.

A new electronic power steering system was tuned by Holden engineers at its Lang Lang proving ground, with the on-centre steering ratio increased for “crisper steering response”, while the speed-sensitive steering was tweaked to ensure “low-speed agility and high-speed stability”.

The Astra features a MacPherson strut with torsion bar front suspension setup and a Watts link rear end. This was a European suspension tune developed at Opel HQ in Russelsheim.

As well as offering a torque vectoring system – similar to the system Mazda is offering on its Mazda3 – the Astra features and Electronic Stability Control program that was co-developed by engineers in Australia and in Idiada, Spain.

The all-new, all-aluminium 1.4-litre four-cylinder turbo-petrol Ecotec engine is only offered in base R spec, and pumps out 110kW/245Nm in six-speed manual guise, while the six-speed torque-converter auto is also 110kW but drops 5Nm of torque to 240Nm.

Holden says this variant sips just 5.8 litres of 91 RON petrol per 100km on the combined cycle and emits 133-135g/km of CO2.

The 1.6-litre Ecotec four-pot delivers 147kW of power and 300Nm with an overboost function and is offered with the same six-speed manual or auto, however the automatic versions will not be available in dealerships until March.

Fuel use for this powertrain is 6.3L/100k on 95 RON, while CO2 emissions are rated between 146-149g/km.

Standard gear in the base R includes idle-stop (for the auto), multi-spoke 17-inch alloy wheels, reversing camera, rear parking sensors, LED daytime running lights, cruise control with a speed limiter, six airbags, the MyLink infotainment system with a 7.0-inch high-res colour touchscreen, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, DAB+ digital radio, Siri Eyes Free, Bluetooth audio streaming, an auxiliary and USB jack.

The RS adds sports five-spoke 17-inch alloys, keyless entry and start, leather steering wheel, heated exterior mirrors, automatic park assist, front parking sensors, a blind spot alert, rain-sensing wipers and the Holden Eye forward facing camera safety system with autonomous emergency braking, lane-keeping assist, a forward distance indicator and forward collision alert with a head-up warning.

In RS-V guise, the Astra gains LED tail-lights, two-tone 18-inch alloy wheels, remote start, an electric park brake, heated leather-appointed sports seats, heated steering wheel, power lumbar adjustment, dual-zone climate control, an 8.0-inch screen, sat-nav with full colour mapping and live traffic updates, and a colour instrument display showing vehicle information, fuel economy and warnings.

A $1000 Driver Assistance Pack will be available from April 2017 for the R and adds leather steering wheel, auto-dimming rearview mirror, rain-sensing wipers and the Holden Eye safety system.

A Touring Pack is a $1900 option for the RS-V and includes an electric sunroof and adaptive cruise control.

Finally an Innovations Pack is offered to RS-V customers for $3990 which adds the electric sunroof, adaptive cruise and the high-tech IntelliLux adaptive LED matrix headlights.

The Astra RS and RS-V were recently awarded a five-star ANCAP crash safety rating.

Eight colours are available. Mineral Black, Nitrate silver, Coconut, Deep sky blue, Carragreen green, Cosmic Grey all attract a premium of $550 as ‘prestige paint’.

2016 Holden Astra pricing*
R 1.4 $21,990
R 1.4 (a) $24,190
RS 1.6 $26,490
RS 1.6 (a) $28,690
RS-V 1.6 $30,990
RS-V 1.6 (a) $33,190
*Excludes on-road costs
 
I'm given to understand there is/was a corporate link between Renault and Nissan, but the 'floating roof' of that new Astra is terribly Murano-esque. I know it's a popular feature these days, but everything about that region of the Astra's roof screams Murano.
 
They were in development at the same time, so it's an unfortunate coincidence. I think it looks pants on the Astra, with the chrome pramline on the wagon even worse.
 
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