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This article was published by Kyle Patrick (@SlipZtrEm) on February 28th, 2018 in the Forza Series category.
It's not an update made by developers of the original game, it's MS itself employing the heutchy method in the emulator to force higher resolution.So it's merely a resolution bump?
I'm sure there are programming reasons why they couldn't double the framerate instead, but I would have been more impressed with that.
I thought that was a typo. Okay, I haven't been paying much attention to the Xbox world for a while. I just don't think 4K is the bee's knees, but I already assumed there was very little else that could be done.It's not an update made by developers of the original game, it's MS itself employing the heutchy method in the emulator to force higher resolution.
With how engine works in Horizon its not that much of a game changer, while 4K makes blurry visuals of FH1 much more crisper. Still looks outdated, especially if you compare it to Need for speed Hot Pursuit or Most Wanted'12 with 4K resolution.but I would have been more impressed with that
Well those games didn't have the same level of physics and were below 720p and 30fps on the 360. I think Horizon still looks pretty good all things considered.With how engine works in Horizon its not that much of a game changer, while 4K makes blurry visuals of FH1 much more crisper. Still looks outdated, especially if you compare it to Need for speed Hot Pursuit or Most Wanted'12 with 4K resolution.
I think 4K isn't much of a game changer, period. I don't get the belief that it makes a game look any different, because the graphics are literally not any different, just outputted at a sharper resolution.With how engine works in Horizon its not that much of a game changer, while 4K makes blurry visuals of FH1 much more crisper. Still looks outdated, especially if you compare it to Need for speed Hot Pursuit or Most Wanted'12 with 4K resolution.
It also made it easier to spot upcoming traffic at high speeds, naturally.
While car detalis are OK, pretty much everything else is awful. Background remind me about PS1 era need for speeds sometimesI think Horizon still looks pretty good all things considered
I think 4K isn't much of a game changer, period. I don't get the belief that it makes a game look any different, because the graphics are literally not any different, just outputted at a sharper resolution.
But a sharper resolution can help nonetheless. Most of my time with FH1 was at 480i on my old CRT. After getting my HD monitor, I came back to the game and improved many of my Rivals times. It also made it easier to spot upcoming traffic at high speeds, naturally. 720p and 1080p are plenty sharp, though, in my opinion.
At the time, I praised FH1 for including more background detail than some of the appalling off-track detail of FM4. I'm not one to nitpick on something like that, but Virtua-Racing-tier surfaces, gaping voids, and floating trees you can easily spot during regular gameplay are a little harder to excuse.While car detalis are OK, pretty much everything else is awful. Background remind me about PS1 era need for speeds sometimes
Higher resolution brings out a lot of hidden detail even in old games, look at this comparison of the xbox 360 version of witcher 2 and the xbox one x 4k enhancement, the detail is there but 720p turns it into mush and you can't make out the details, 4k is clean and crisp and showcases the original developer vision and art.I think 4K isn't much of a game changer, period. I don't get the belief that it makes a game look any different, because the graphics are literally not any different, just outputted at a sharper resolution.
But a sharper resolution can help nonetheless. Most of my time with FH1 was at 480i on my old CRT. After getting my HD monitor, I came back to the game and improved many of my Rivals times. It also made it easier to spot upcoming traffic at high speeds, naturally. 720p and 1080p are plenty sharp, though, in my opinion.
If anything, its a blown up picture to match the same resolution as the new 4k image, making issues more pronounced. 720p and 1080p always looked crisp enough to me, but if you compare them side by side with 4k image, and blow the 720p to match the same dimensions in the comparison, it ends up looking like that. The one at the right is in a natural state while the left isn't, so you're right.@SimTourist -- The image on the left is not unaltered 720p. It resembles what an HDTV does to analog input. On my monitor, 720p is basically as crisp as 1080p, but with slightly larger pixels. That's it, nothing more. Even 480i through my de-interlacer box isn't like that!
4K only makes the most sense on larger TV's, I agree. If you're TV is on the smaller side of the bracket, its something that wouldn't really matter too much and the lower modes work just fine, to be honest. HDR on the other hand is great regardless, and I wonder why we don't see 1080p sets with HDR.As for 4K, it's just smaller pixels. I'm sure the clarity can be appreciated on a very large screen, but 1080p seems more than adequate in terms of utility in gameplay, and smaller pixels does utterly nothing to make videogame graphics more "convincing" to my eyes. It's the same models, textures, lighting, effects...
Correct.Am I understanding that I need to buy a 360 disk to play this on Xbox 1S since it's been removed from the Xbox store?