ORS | SEASON 2 | Lexus IS-F RM Series

[willco69]

Bonson, whatever you do mate, dont leave the series.. trust me! You can ask any of the boys how much i struggled on the hards in the S15 series.. it was not enjoyable at some stages of the series, but it was a challenge none the less. I am a better driver now than i was at the start of the last championship. Now i go to the open lobby to kick ass, then i jump in with the regulars to improve and rise up to the challenge.
Always winning doesnt make you a better driver, it probably just makes you complacent. I know i'de be at or close to the top if i was running softs while xerx, oni and lost were on hards, but that wouldnt be any fun. Its true driving style needs to be adjusted to suit different tyre compounds, but if you make it to the end, its so much more rewarding.
bare in mind that there is a 2 second difference between the softs and the mediums, and 2 seconds between the mediums and the hards. We have been doing all our testing on the mediums, havent touched the softs at all. This will mean that the drop to hards wont "hurt" as much as when we were going from softs to hards in the last series.
also, remember the slower drivers will be on mediums most of the time, so there isnt a huge difference in performance. And given your speed, you may well end up in front of them anyway!
So what im trying to say is, dont FK off, stay with it, challenge yourself and you will be a better driver by the end of the series.

 

[X3rx3s44]

I don't think there's a way I could pull out after that speech. Put JFK to shame with that one mate...

Glad you liked it! 👍
On a more serious note, I can see your point of view on this and even if you are not looking to improve yourself it should still be fun, ultimately, if your racing with someone whether it be for first or last, if you have a good close race with them it should be enjoyable anyway.
For example, Lost and I had an immense battle last night testing out the Hards, the only other person in the race was Mick_C but he said on his mini-map it appeared to be only one car indicator all race! Now it would not have mattered if we were both on Comfort tyres IMO because the enjoyment comes from battling with someone regardless of lap performance, our times were well down on what we could run in testing due to the battles but we both got to the end, saved the replay, and agreed that was one of the best races we have ever had!
I think you will find when we test it is not as bad as you anticipate, but ultimately, it is your call and I have said my piece but I guarantee everyone in this Championship would be disappointed to see you leave.
Also, as Willco said, he is improving and great pleasure is gained as a result of that, although like you, Willco is fast anyway, but again, like you, struggles with car setup.

Cheers, Xerx

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

Yeah i agree as wilco and xerx said dont pull out bonson mate i dont mind testing the hards and working a setup out with you bud. if u want to that is and yes xerxsees that was a very good battle so good of passin the the places u would never have expected it! made a good replay.. ull have put some pics up as we were swappin in and out of positions!

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

Me and xerxsees had an awsome battle last night heres some pictures of some overtaking in the same lap fighting for position on the RACING HARDS...by the way ull see how close we actualy race without contact! There were alot more like this Esp at the chicane but didnt want to upload millions i wanted to upload in sequence so u could kinda see what was happening
Hope u enjoy them

Nürburgring GP_F_1 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

Me trying the under maneuver on xerxsees at turn 2

Nürburgring GP_F_2 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

Setting the car up to take xerxsees turn 2

Nürburgring GP_F_3 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

getting closer turn 2...

Nürburgring GP_F_4 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

Just about touching xerxsees car but pulling it off tho turn 2. we race close..

Nürburgring GP_F_5 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

Me keeping tight on the inside turn 2


Nürburgring GP_F_6 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

turn 2 sweeper neck and neck heading into the 3rd turn


Nürburgring GP_F_7 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

turn 2 sweeper moving away from each other


Nürburgring GP_F_8 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr
Into turn 3 i managed to pull off the pass on xerxsees


Nürburgring GP_F_9 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

going around turn 3 xerxsees tryin to put an under move on me


Nürburgring GP_F_10 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

Still neck and neck heading into turn 4 but i have the line!


Nürburgring GP_F_11 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

going around turn 4 Xerxsees still trying those under moves!


Nürburgring GP_F_12 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

Coming out of turn 4 comes down to the drive here!


Nürburgring GP_F_13 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

heading down into 5th left hand corner its still neck and neck cant break away from each other


Nürburgring GP_F_14 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr
The Drive down the striaght to 5th left hand corner neck and neck look how close it is xerxsees would be touching my wing mirror if he wasnt JUST BEHIND ME by 5 MILS

Nürburgring GP_F_15 by Lost-on-drugz, on Flickr

Xerxsees got the drive heading into the corner at turn 5

 

[Mic_Col]

^^^ That's really cool seeing those pictures.

I was too far behind to see the battle, but could hear the chat over the comms. Knew there was something awesome happening.

 

[X3rx3s44]

Nice photos Lost! 👍
They are great, best thing was that was just a sequence of 4 corners! It was like that for the entire 10 laps!
I was going to post some as well because I ended up taking just under 50 shots from those 10 laps! But you have beaten me to it, let me know if the instructions on how to work photobucket don't make sense mate because they would look awesome full-size like those I posted earlier!
I will also be posting a picture of the race-seat I made for GT5 because a few people have mentioned about making one themselves also. So I hope that mine can bring some inspiration or at the very least, an idea on how one could be built!

Cheers, Xerx

 

[Mic_Col]

Here's a race-seat design I found here on GTPlanet. I saved it to my funny pictures folder . . .

I imagine it's a real conversation starter having that set up in your house.

Conversation would go "Ewww, what the F*&k did you do that for??!"

And I just noticed I think that's the SBS logo on the screen there so an Australian GTP member has built it.

 

[Bennyjohnson]

As I said, I'll see how I go in testing, don't want to pull out if I can fix the issues, but haven't had a chance yet.

I won't be on until late tonight, but I'll be right for some racing then.

Cheers.

 

[X3rx3s44]

@ That picture Mick!

Well, I hope that my race seat is an improvement upon that...
You will have to forgive the mess and 🤬 around my race seat. The photo was taken almost immediately once the paint had dried and I got it in the house so as you can see from the jungle of cables it was not setup... But gives you an idea of what I did with the primary design.

This is my baby! I made it with help from my father who is magic on the welder and grinder and that sort of stuff, it was made to fit my height dimensions specifically, although the seat is on a sliding rail (same as a car) so it is adjustable to an extent.
The primary material used was RHS steel (25x50x2.5mm) to keep weight down, surprisingly, the seat weighs more than the frame!... So we achieved that mission.
Also, steel plates were used to mount the pedals, wheel and to make the heel rest. Aside from that we used a peice of tubing to support the wheel due to greater strength so no mater how much you try, the wheel will always be the weakest link (like a fuse in an electical system)!
Finally we got it all assembled then I got to paint it! I was torn between blue and orange but decided blue was the only way to go! 👍
All-in-all the various bits and pieces came to about $200 even!
Any other questions let me know! Cheers.

Now these are a few of the photos from the battle Lost and I had last night. As Lost has already posted quite a few pictures I will limit it to four photos, three of which are of my attempt on lap 8 to make a move on Lost around the outside of the chicane at the end of the back straight after he moved left to defend the position!...

This is immediately after the only significant contact we had all race when Lost got on the throttle earlier than myself and tagged the back of my car coming out of the Dunlop Curve.

This was the start of my run up the outside, I was probably a little too late on the brakes and didn't get the nose into the chicane until quite late...

...This allowed Lost to get a better run through the chicane and left me trailing coming toward the exit...

...This was taken at the same time as the previous photo from my angle, the net result was that due to being a tiny bit too late on the brakes and too late turning the nose in, I was unable to get enough drive to pass Lost on the run to the final turn, Lost retained the lead coming onto the start/finish straight!

Cheers, Xerx

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

Nice xerxsees! yeah was an intense battle all the way from the start line. i thought i moved left while u had the draft up the back straight to defend my position?

and mate jelous of your frame... ill post a picture of my "setup" if u can call it that....

 

[spinner]

Here's my temporary setup. Don't laugh , ..... nah go ahead ! It's pretty ghetto. The old coffee table was dug out of the shed and just happened to be the right height. That and some bits of scrap laying around , a few tekscrews and bam ! The seat is off the net .... first reasonably priced thing I found. $150 to the door.

Plans have been drawn up for the replacement , it will be pretty pimped. Unfortunately I still haven't started it. Maybe this weekend....💡

Great shots above guys , soooo close in some of those shots. See yez later tonight hopefully.


cp1 by spinnerpics1, on Flickr


cp2 by spinnerpics1, on Flickr


cp3 by spinnerpics1, on Flickr

 

[Mic_Col]

^^ Hey that's not too bad spinner.

I'd look at it as being 2/3rds done. You just need a permanent steel mount for the wheel instead of the coffee table and it's complete

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

Hey Mick_c_1080 nice to see last night during the practise that you were doing consistant laps good stuff bud. good to see you and xerxsees getting involved with your setups 👍

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

4ll y0ur b4s3 b3l0ng t0 m3

 

[Mic_Col]

Yeah last night's session went well.

I am getting somewhat better with the right stick for throttle & brake.

The last 10 lap practice race was good, I was able to race it start to finish clean with only minor errors.

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

Yeah agreed mic! good stuff ull improve your times when u adjust properly to it

and bonson mate ive been doing testing and setting up my car for racing hards to be honest mate now i dont even notice the difference between the hards and softs.. except the time

when i first jumped on them i was like BEEP this but i defualted my setup and set it up around the racing hards if u want i can do a session with you and help you work out a setup your comfortable with

i dont mind sharing my stuff i didnt really like the silvia competition much as everyone was so uptight about everyone and practicing alone it just wasnt as fun as when we were doing the gt300 gt500 were everyone was practising at same time sharing tips which helped all the other stay on par

 

[waynz]

i dont mind sharing my stuff i didnt really like the silvia competition much as everyone was so uptight about everyone and practicing alone it just wasnt as fun as when we were doing the gt300 gt500 were everyone was practising at same time sharing tips which helped all the other stay on par

I guess it doesn't help that everyone is on at different times due to.. "real world" shenanigans

 

[Oniichan]

I am hosting a practice race tonight at 9pm sydney time in my lounge. If one hasnt already been done.

To ensure a smooth race i want EVERYONE to do the following.

- In your PS3's XMB settings disable the PS3 media server
- Check your internet test to see if a NAT shows up
- Clear Cache in GT5 network menu screen

Then join the lounge.

 

[X3rx3s44]

I am hosting a practice race tonight at 9pm sydney time in my lounge. If one hasnt already been done.

To ensure a smooth race i want EVERYONE to do the following.

- In your PS3's XMB settings disable the PS3 media server
- Check your internet test to see if a NAT shows up
- Clear Cache in GT5 network menu screen

Then join the lounge.

I will be there mate! 👍
But I will only be on for the first half an hour as F1 Qually starts at 9:30pm. I will then be on straight after and back into it!

Cheers, Xerx

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

i will be there mate! 👍
But i will only be on for the first half an hour as f1 qually starts at 9:30pm. I will then be on straight after and back into it! :d

cheers, xerx

all your base belong to me

 

[Oniichan]

Here you go lost. This is what i use to play GT5.

i dont mind sharing my stuff i didnt really like the silvia competition much as everyone was so uptight about everyone and practicing alone it just wasnt as fun as when we were doing the gt300 gt500 were everyone was practising at same time sharing tips which helped all the other stay on par

I have to agree with you on this. People hiding their setups have ruined the fun a bit as people test alone now and no longer help each other. The GT500 & 300 series was the most fun in my opinion even though it was a bit uneven with the racing.

So in the spirit of keeping things fun.. here is my setup for the IS-F RM. Give it a go and provide any feedback. It works for me. Though it isn't as fast as Lost & Xerk setups as i cant get anywhere near their times.

Aero: Max
Ballast: 0/0

Ride Height: -18/ -20

Spring Rate: 13.8/12.8
Extension: 8/4
Compression: 6/3
Anti-roll bars: 4/2

Camber: 2.6/0.9
Toe: 0.0/0.0

Brake Balance 5/7

LSD: 12/19/5

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

Thats awsome oni looks sick as! very jelous of u right now . . .
LOL
yeah mate it has taken abit of the fun out of it and i agree i think the gt300 and gt500 was the most fun

thats nice of you to post your setup oni
similar to mine in some of the settings, and yeah mines fast but when im going that fast its wearing the tyres hardcore...

 

[GTevan1080]

It really is a fine art setting up these cars. Mick and I share setups all the time, but what works for him doesn't always work for me. I have gone back to default suspension four time and retuned the whole setup, changed the diff and ballast, and even with completely different settings pull similar lap times. I push this car to the point of crashing every lap and I just can't match the lap times of lost and xerx . Mick and I are similar in lap times but even on mediums or even softs we are not matching these guys running hards.

Now don't think I'm having a whinge or a cry, I think it is a absolute credit to the guys who can do these times, I wish I knew how they do it. I'm really looking forward to racing this race series and am hoping to pick some tips on setups.

As I said before Mick and I share our setups all the time and we still prefer our own, what works for him feels wrong to me. We are probably 2 to 3 seconds a lap off the pace, but I'm more than happy to give you my setup!!!!!

Good luck tonight guys

Evan

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

As I said before Mick and I share our setups all the time and we still prefer our own, what works for him feels wrong to me. We are probably 2 to 3 seconds a lap off the pace, but I'm more than happy to give you my setup!!!!!

Good luck tonight guys

Evan

Hey evan illd like to try what your running mate, if thats cool with you
And as u said you would like to pick up some tips for setups as exactly what i was talking about before how everyone all seceret

My setup

Aero full front / 54 rear

-17 / -13
15.0 / 13.0
7 / 3
5 / 3
4 / 1

1.0 / 0.5
0.04 / 0.01

7
18
5

Brakes 5 - 4

Feedback would be welcome

 

[Bennyjohnson]

I've had no time to do setup work, been completely swamped over the weekend out the back.

I have a very big feeling that the LSD settings I was running was responsible for the crap feeling in the car, so I'll get home tonight and do some laps and get a feel for what the LSD settings will do and go from there.

I'm definetly running in the series, so cheers for all the help and encouragement. 👍

 

[GTevan1080]

I'm just at work Lost, but I'll post my setting later today
Thanks Evan

 

[X3rx3s44]

I've had no time to do setup work, been completely swamped over the weekend out the back.

I have a very big feeling that the LSD settings I was running was responsible for the crap feeling in the car, so I'll get home tonight and do some laps and get a feel for what the LSD settings will do and go from there.

I'm definetly running in the series, so cheers for all the help and encouragement. 👍

Glad to hear that Bonson! 👍
I will be having My Lounge open right up until the start of Qually tonight if you need somewhere to test, I may not be about all afternoon/evening but the room will still be open!

As for my setup, I will post my setup from Fuji F as I set a time with that setup around Nurburgring GP/F which I have as yet not been able to improve upon, matched but not improved, so I may very well run this setup tonight anyway...

Aero: Max
Ballast: 0/0

Ride Height: -9/ -23

Spring Rate: 11.7/8.5
Extension: 3/6
Compression: 2/5
Anti-roll bars: 7/1

Camber: 1.5/0.5
Toe: 0.0/0.0

Brake Balance 4/3

LSD: 15/30/5

It should also be noted that I am now running a different LSD and Camber as per the team-testing efforts of Oni & myself on Saturday night and Sunday morning...

New Camber: 3.1/0.9

New LSD: 15/20/5

 

[Mic_Col]

Everyone's putting their cards on the table. You wouldn't see this in most of the other series here on GTPlanet.

My setup is in a transition mode. It might helps others if I explain what I'm doing and how it's helping me: This is all due to the fact I'm just now learning to drive using right stick for throttle & brake. Initially I was running Xerxes setup but struggling with keeping the back end under control.

So I got an idea, I retained only the spring setting, but leveled the car out. Everything in the left side of suspension screen I now set in parallel, all figures the same left and right (set about mid-point): ride height, dampers, and anti-rolls. But the springs were kept as per Xerxes, which we'd worked out together.

With all the rest in parallel I had a much softer, easier to control car and was able to drive the car without errors. Making it easier to train myself with using right stick for throttle & brake. In truth it was kind of an understeering set-up, but it was what I needed.

Now that I'm getting used to it, I am starting to progress my setup closer to Xerxes's one. Make a step in that direction and drive a bunch of laps and get used to the sharper handling, so I'm basically a third of the way there. After a few more rounds and me getting used to the new throttle/brake use, I figure I'll be running the same as Xerxes.

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

wasnt that the spring rate i gave u sam abit back? when i was going on about that spring rate working it out to make it balanced?

 

[Lost-on-drugz]

I'm just at work Lost, but I'll post my setting later today
Thanks Evan

Cheers mate