Panther - From the Trip to the Apple Store to Daily Use

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On October 30th, I bought Panther (aka OS X 10.3) from the Apple Store in Northridge, California. What follows is my unnecessarily long write-up of everything pertaining to getting and using Panther (with some random thoughts that have nothing to do with Panther).

So, we get ready... it's 2:30 on the 30th, and I'm backing up some of my important documents from Jaguar onto a USB pocket drive thingie, because I plan on doing a clean install (read: wiping my HD). My mom and I get in the car, and we're off first to the Facey clinic in Mission Hills to get my flu shot. The fire in the Newhall pass was still going at that time though, so we were stuck in traffic for about a half hour while smoke engulfed the freeway. We eventually get to Mission Hills though and I get my flu shot without much wait.

And now off to the Apple Store! I'm a bit inimidated on the way there, because my mom has the awful combination of not being a very good driver and getting lost easily, but we go through without too much incident, though I had to explain to her how to navigate through the mall parking lot (she got lost).

We walk into the mall, and the Apple Store is near the entrance. The first thing I see is their display for the 3 new versions of Office for X... the lighting and display is almost obsessive in its technicality. This is the first time I've ever been to an Apple Store, believe it or not - So when I walk in, I want to just run up and play with everything. I spot a 12" Aluminum PowerBook, and the first thing I try out is Exposé, Apple's way of managing windows [more information here]. I assign one of the corners to Exposé, open up a dozen windows or so, then try it out. Beautiful! It's incredibly smooth, even with that many windows open.

My dad has my money, so while we wait for him to come, I play with an iPod (so much smaller in person than what it looks like on the website), then a G5 hooked up to a 23 inch Cinema display on the other side of the store. Finally, my dad arrives, and I grab a Panther box off from the shelf (ooh, the X is embossed!), pay for it, and we go eat dinner at one of the restaurants in the mall.

On the way back, there's a huge backup, so I decide to open the box. Now, for those of you who have bought a Mac in the past few years, you know that opening a box from Apple is almost a work of art in itself. I was expecting the CD to be package like most software is (a Cd thrown into a plastic/paper case with an instruction booklet), but I apparently didn't realize that Apple like to package its software the same way as its hardware. When I open the box, out comes a thick, white cardboard box, with a slit down the center and a hole to open it like a door. and when you open this nice little setup, a booklet with the title "Welcome to Panther" greets you.

When we *finally* get home, I take a shower, then put the first installation disk into my computer (there are 3 installation disks in all, plus an Xcode disk for developers). It takes a long time to do this clean install, but by 10 PM I'm rewarded with the Welcome screen. I input my information, and when it goes to the next screen (the Internet setup one, I think), it does the rotating cube effect... cool!

When it's all said and done, I'm brought to the desktop. I try out the new Finder... some people absolutely loathe the fact that it's now Brushed Metal, but I don't mind. The new sidebar works nicely, and there are a lot of neat effects (some people hate eye candy, but I love it).

I try Exposé, not nearly in an optimistic mood - my iBook just barely support Quartz Extreme, the technology used in Exposé... so, I was expecting the effect to be jagged and rough, but still work. Thankfully, I was wrong, because it worked just as smoothly as the Macs at the Apple Store. 👍

I try out Fast User Switching with a test account, and it works very nicely. The cube effect is just too cool.

Next up are my impressions of the GUI and my experience with some of the apps. (I need a break right now)
 
Sounds like Panther is worth the $130 then? It's too bad we don't have a mac that can support it. The 233 G3 is just too old and slow. I can't convince the parents to buy a new mac either. It sure would be nice to have one of those G5s.
 
Originally posted by Viper Zero
I have to admit, Panther looks better than XP. :)
And Panther's interface looks even better, though I still installed SmoothStripes to get it even nicer. :)

Originally posted by Matrixhasu77
Sounds like Panther is worth the $130 then?
Oh, by far. For anybody who likes to multitask and often has a ridiculous number of windows open, Exposé alone would be almost worth the price... I've been constantly using it, and it's just the most awesome thing in the world. It's really something you have to use for some time to fully appreciate... I myself wasn't expecting much when I first heard about it and saw screenshots, but when you actually start using it, it's a real time-saver. 👍 And it has some cool tricks up its sleeve - For example, say you click on an image in Photoshop (and keep your left-click button down), then you hit the Exposé button, you can drag that image to another window and drop it in that document.

Panther is also much Snappier™ than 10.1-10.2, and much faster overall. Applications take about half the time to launch in Panther than they did on Jaguar (that's just rough observation, not timed or anything ;)), menus come down faster, the computer's boot time is significantly shorter (as well as shut down), applications in general seem faster... it's a big step forward speed-wise, and is comparable to OS 9.

Any current OS X users want to ask something?
 
I recently bought a Alienware laptop, and it came with XP pro. I have always used microsoft products, but my desktop machine ran WIn 2K. I was sooo dissapointed with XP...it sure didn't feel like 2.66 Ghz, and my video overheated at least once a day, freezing my comp. So, pissed off with the Microsoft empire, I made a complete switch to Linux. (I was gonna do dual boot, but my video overheated during the partition, causing me to lose my HD:( ). Now I'm totally hooked on the stability of UNIX/Linux---I can go a whole week without reboot. I think my next comp will be a G5, but I have a few questions.

1) What file system does OS X use? FAT/NTFS needs to be defraged very often (especially if you P2P as much as I do) and Linux is much smarter about sector management.

2) Could I do a cluster between a Linux box and the hypothetical G5? That would be sooo cool.
 
Originally posted by skip0110
---I can go a whole week without reboot.


:odd: I have XP Pro Corp. Edition and I can go 2 weeks without a reboot and hardly notice a slowdown. :odd:


Anyway, congrats on getting Panther, Sage! I really want a Mac. Maybe I'll be able to afford one soon. :)
 
yeah, but thats in a desktop. In the small space of a laptop, Windoze apps (which i guess use a LOT of video power) overheat the comp really quick. It's not really Windows' fault, the laptop is probably a ****ty design.
 
Oh. I guess it does get pretty hot in that little laptop case. Also, Not having the side panels on my tower probably aided in my 2 week non-reboot. :P
 
Originally posted by Integra Type R
I really want a Mac. Maybe I'll be able to afford one soon. :)

LOL. Just burn the computer you have, then ask your parents for a new one.:lol:

I like XP for now, my old school had the Apple Desktops" The NEW one's" :drool:. Really easy and clean to use.

👍
 
Originally posted by Integra Type R
Oh. I guess it does get pretty hot in that little laptop case. Also, Not having the side panels on my tower probably aided in my 2 week non-reboot. :P

Reboot? ;)

God, I loved saying that. I think I'll say it again.

Reboot?
 
Originally posted by skip0110
1) What file system does OS X use? FAT/NTFS needs to be defraged very often (especially if you P2P as much as I do) and Linux is much smarter about sector management.
Well, it's called "Mac OS Extended (Journaled)" (if you erase a disk, you can choose to have it journaled or not; the default setup is journaled), but I don't know if this has another name. I think you can choose UFS, but it's not recommended unless being used as a server.

Sorry if I don't sound like I know what I'm talking about, because quite frankly, I don't. ;) From my experience, as well as the many members of the MacNN forums who I'm talked to, disk management is very much a non-issue. In fact, while many people (including me) like to wipe the HD clean when installing a new version of OS X, I have honestly only heard of a couple OS X users de-fragging their disks, ever. I've never done it, and 99.9% of X users haven't either and haven't noticed problems arising from that.

2) Could I do a cluster between a Linux box and the hypothetical G5? That would be sooo cool.
I think you can, but apparently it's not really a smooth operation, as you can see in this thread.

BTW, you might want to check out the MacNN OS X forums to see if more knowledgeable people could answer your questions. :) I mostly hang out in the GUI forum, since that's the kind of stuff that interests me.

Originally posted by Integra Type R
Anyway, congrats on getting Panther, Sage! I really want a Mac. Maybe I'll be able to afford one soon.
Thanks!

Are you saving up money for that new G4 iBook? ;)
 
Originally posted by risingson77
You're.
Okey dokey, thanks. It doesn't really make sense though... You are welcome [to my advice]?

Originally posted by Super-Supra
What's better?
Uh, next time just say "eMac" and "iBook"... I know what they are. ;)

Anyway, I'd recommend a new G4 iBook if you have they money. The only major differences between the two is price (eMacs start at under a thousand in U.S. coinage), and the eMac can be had with a SuperDrive... not many people exactly have a burning (ha ha) desire to burn DVD discs though, so the iBook's combo drive should be just fine. It burns CD-RWs and plays DVDs.

The advantages of the iBook far outweigh those two disadvantages... taking the 50-pound eMac to school in your backpack isn't exactly an easy task. On the other hand, the iBook is just a smidge larger than a spiral notebook, and weighs just under 6 pounds. There's also the relief that comes with owning a laptop when your neighborhood has a black out, and yet your computer stays on.

Is this what you have?
Sort of. My iBook is a year old now... it's a 600 MHz G3, Mid-'02 model. Also, it's a 12", not a 14".

On that note, if you buy an iBook, get the 12". The 14" doesn't have a better screen resolution, just larger pixels, and that extra girth sacrifices a lot of what makes the iBook such an awesome portable. The 12" is perfect in size.
 
I don't really want to get a Laptop, just yet. Personally, I think there slower unless you pay more money for the better ones.

My XP is fine at the moment. I usually screw up my computer every 1-3 years.
 
Originally posted by Sage
Okey dokey, thanks. It doesn't really make sense though... You are welcome [to my advice]?

Basically. When you say you're welcome, you are telling the other person that they are welcome to whatever they have just received from you. Consider also that your is the possesive form of you, so saying your welcome really doesn't make sense. :)
 
Niice. I might've got an Apple as my last computer, but they're just so foreign to me. I've only seen one at my school, and I get extremely lost trying to use it. I wish I was more Apple educated, mainly because of the G5 and Panther.

Can you custom build Apples, or can you only buy them retail? (Buy parts separate and then put it together)
 
Originally posted by DODGE the VIPER
Niice. I might've got an Apple as my last computer, but they're just so foreign to me. I've only seen one at my school, and I get extremely lost trying to use it. I wish I was more Apple educated, mainly because of the G5 and Panther.

Can you custom build Apples, or can you only buy them retail? (Buy parts separate and then put it together)

You can custom build a mac if you really want to. It's just a matter of finding the parts from vendors and getting a motherboard from apple(I think). I remember seeing a segment on TechTV's Screensavers a few months back so I'm positive it can be done.
 
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