PD needs to fix Respawn

[FUNanywhere]

Check video below

Guy at 4th goes straight pass Turn 1 after being rammed by someone and he spawns so far ahead of everyone who are still taking Turn 2 slowly. Guy goes on to win the race comfortably.

Guy at 3rd spins before Turn 1 and yet spawns after Turn 2 gaining some advantage.

This is wrong totally. Brake early at high speeds,skip 2 turns and voila spawn well ahead of T2, guy behind gets a negative SR and a pen maybe. This needs to be fixed.



Not naming anyone here. Just an example video. All above was accidental and some bad judgement.

 

[ASH32]

This was known about in the first few hours after Monza was added and yet it's still possible and they still keep using Monza in dailies too.

Personally I wish the auto reset was removed but if they keep it and they likely will then they obviously need to reset the cars before the chicane and not after.

 

[Robben]

It's so bad that it's comical

You were the only person to slow down sufficiently to make the corner yet went from 1st to 6th.

Edit: aside from the Monza chicanes, respawn in general is an issue due to the yellow flag 5 second penalty too

 

[JulesDennis]

Check video below

Guy at 4th goes straight pass Turn 1 after being rammed by someone and he spawns so far ahead of everyone who are still taking Turn 2 slowly. Guy goes on to win the race comfortably.

Guy at 3rd spins before Turn 1 and yet spawns after Turn 2 gaining some advantage.

This is wrong totally. Brake early at high speeds,skip 2 turns and voila spawn well ahead of T2, guy behind gets a negative SR and a pen maybe. This needs to be fixed.



Not naming anyone here. Just an example video. All above was accidental and some bad judgement.

Working as intended... lol
But people would jump at me when I write that Sports mode needs:
a. Zero ghost cars
b. Fuel/tire consumption
c. Full damage at all times (needed to go to pits in order to get fixed)
d. No "respawning" back to track
e. Improvments to pentaly and SR system
f. In game system to report other players

 

[Crazy Taylor]

Check video below

Guy at 4th goes straight pass Turn 1 after being rammed by someone and he spawns so far ahead of everyone who are still taking Turn 2 slowly. Guy goes on to win the race comfortably.

Guy at 3rd spins before Turn 1 and yet spawns after Turn 2 gaining some advantage.

This is wrong totally. Brake early at high speeds,skip 2 turns and voila spawn well ahead of T2, guy behind gets a negative SR and a pen maybe. This needs to be fixed.



Not naming anyone here. Just an example video. All above was accidental and some bad judgement.

Should just give a harsher penalty for that, say 30 seconds or more

 

[NJ72]

Should just give a harsher penalty for that, say 30 seconds or more

No way, the guy got punted so it wasn't his fault, why should he get a 30 sec penalty? I agree the respawn is an unfair advantage, but he should not get slapped with a HUGE penalty IMO...

 

[Haitauer]

Maybe remove the respawn all together and make the cars properly sink/stuck off track.

 

[Baron Blitz Red]

Check video below

Guy at 4th goes straight pass Turn 1 after being rammed by someone and he spawns so far ahead of everyone who are still taking Turn 2 slowly. Guy goes on to win the race comfortably.

Guy at 3rd spins before Turn 1 and yet spawns after Turn 2 gaining some advantage.

This is wrong totally. Brake early at high speeds,skip 2 turns and voila spawn well ahead of T2, guy behind gets a negative SR and a pen maybe. This needs to be fixed.



Not naming anyone here. Just an example video. All above was accidental and some bad judgement.

I totally agree with you. I posted this yesterday in another thread, showing the HUGE advantage it gives. This one shows how buddy goes from fourth to first and gone... comfy win for him.



Cheers

 

[Patclash]

Should just give a harsher penalty for that, say 30 seconds or more

or replace the car before the chicane ( not after) 💡

 

[Pedinhuh]

Just do away with the whole respawn mechanic, it does more harm than good.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Maybe remove the respawn all together and make the cars properly sink/stuck off track.

Yep, this doesn't even require a fix. It's already a server setting.

They should turn on turning while they are at it.

 

[p78]

Working as intended... lol
But people would jump at me when I write that Sports mode needs:
c. Full damage at all times (needed to go to pits in order to get fixed)

Bit unfair when you are not an ace racer and are hanging about in the lower regions, where ramming is daily business.

 

[Robben]

bit unfair when you are not an ace racer and are hanging about in the lower regions, where ramming is daily business.

Exactly... damage harms the ramee often more than the rammer

 

[lancia delta hf]

This Sports mode is kiddies play, the way PDI have implemented it. I can't take them serious when they boast of the FIA licence and have spawns plus such pathetic contacts. Duff. Lolol Wtf is that? The contacts are a complete immersion killer for me.

 

[JulesDennis]

bit unfair when you are not an ace racer and are hanging about in the lower regions, where ramming is daily business.

Exactly... damage harms the ramee often more than the rammer

People need to "learn" to race as clean/fair as possible.Also the in game system (DR/SR and penalty) should work as best as it can.
From official GTS page :
"The ‘Advanced Matchmaking System’ matches players with the same level of skill and sportsmanship together, while the BoP (Balance of Performance) will equalise the performance of the race machines, creating a fair and exciting online environment."

For this to happen we need A up to F.
PD you want to copy the iRacing system?Do it the right way and dont create "loopholes".
People that want fair and clean races will eventually benefit from forcing my points,no matter their level.
Rammers will get a DQ in every race and end up where they belong.Adding a report in game system will give clean drivers the option to report them and help PD suspending them.

 

[ASH32]

Working as intended... lol
But people would jump at me when I write that Sports mode needs:
a. Zero ghost cars
b. Fuel/tire consumption
c. Full damage at all times (needed to go to pits in order to get fixed)
d. No "respawning" back to track
e. Improvments to pentaly and SR system
f. In game system to report other players

d. e. and f. are the most important things to do first.

b. in some races and not others is fine enough to me.

a. can't happen without d. e. and f. especially d. and f. being fully implemented, it ridiculous you can intentionally lose a lap and take out other cars and have zero chance of a ban as it is and without ghosted cars the auto reset cars would cause accidents through no fault of the driver.

c. is not a good idea as even with f implemented it would still entice people to cause mayhem and would hurt decent drivers the most.

 

[JulesDennis]

d. e. and f. are the most important things to do first.

b. in some races and not others is fine enough to me.

a. can't happen without d. e. and f. especially d. and f. being fully implemented, it ridiculous you can intentionally lose a lap and take out other cars and have zero chance of a ban as it is and without ghosted cars the auto reset cars would cause accidents through no fault of the driver.

c. is not a good idea as even with f implemented it would still entice people to cause mayhem and would hurt decent drivers the most.

Well my opinion is that in order to improve the quality of the races (at least in Sport mode) all these points should be forced.I was writing the same thing when we were testing the closed beta (I think you can find a few posts in these forums).
These points will only give good results if they are forced together.If not then there would not propably do any good.Anyway its only my personal opinion.I could be wrong.If something is not tested we'll never know.

 

[NJ72]

I personally disagree on the damage front. I can understand the others, but forcing full heavy damage on would give people revenge potential if they have been unfairly overtaken. Some muppets see taking someone out as more important than finishing the race themselves

 

[demeaning pie]

And I got questioned about PD adding a broken track

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I've seen it used deliberately yesterday. And 2 weeks ago someone coming from the pit put his car right in front of at the last second, to steal momentum I guess. The speed difference was so big he shot past the chicane, got reset and gained 2 places.

I've seen ghosting being abused plenty as well. Driving inside a ghosted car should be penalized too, as well as overtaking through people while ghosted or getting into the driving line at low speed after an incident. I've seen T1 pile ups at Monza with 7 cars occupying the space of 3 coming out merged together. Ridiculous.

 

[FUNanywhere]

I've seen it used deliberately yesterday. And 2 weeks ago someone coming from the pit put his car right in front of at the last second, to steal momentum I guess. The speed difference was so big he shot past the chicane, got reset and gained 2 places.

I've seen ghosting being abused plenty as well. Driving inside a ghosted car should be penalized too, as well as overtaking through people while ghosted or getting into the driving line at low speed after an incident. I've seen T1 pile ups at Monza with 7 cars occupying the space of 3 coming out merged together. Ridiculous.

That is ridiculous. Jeez.

 

[soundtiger95]

The respawn in general is terrible and there should at least be an option to turn in off in lobbies. I had someone hit me from behind in the second chicane at Monza. Ended up going through the chicane and got respawned backward two places. Had another race at Interlogos where I spun out going into the last 90 degree turn just before the front straight and ended up going for a ride through the grass on the left side. I could have rejoined the track after the turn without gaining or losing a spot but instead I get respawned back multiple positions.