PlayTV • The Official Thread - Anyone Bought One?

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PlayTV has finally been fully revealed, Here is a complete run down of the service... Really interesting features and functionality... I like the colours and layout, very Apple TV but its odd they didnt go XMB style :sly:...I can't wait! :)

Introduction

Sony's PlayStation 3 is a multimedia powerhouse, juggling the playback demands of Blu-ray, DVD, and DivX with ease. But while on-demand content is growing in popularity, there remain a vast number of people who watch regularly scheduled, over-the-air broadcasts. With many companies selling equipment to watch TV on your PC, Mac, or any number of portable devices, it's not surprising to see Sony enter the market with PlayTV, a new device that will let you watch digital TV on your PlayStation 3.

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Utilising a USB tuner, plus the included software, PlayTV will allow users to play, record, and stream free-to-air digital programming. These types of broadcast are common across Europe, where the open DVB standard has been incorporated into such services as TDF in France and Freeview in the UK. We sat down with a prerelease version of the device at a recent Sony event and used the occasion to put our questions to Cambridge-based developer Mark Bunting.

All models of the PlayStation 3 are compatible with PlayTV, although the more hard drive space you have, the more you'll be able to record. Whatever size hard drive you have, 6GB of space will be reserved exclusively for game-related data. The PlayTV adaptor plugs into any free USB socket on the front of the PlayStation 3. The unit itself isn't as small as some PC-based models and, instead, takes up about the same space as an original Nintendo DS handheld. However, it contains two separate tuners so you can watch and record different channels. Also, it does not require an external power source. While you can control PlayTV with a DualShock3 or Sixaxis controller, a more traditional remote control is useful if you want to navigate Freeview's many channels at speed.

PlayTV really comes into its own if you have a PlayStation Portable. By enabling remote play on your PlayStation 3, you can watch TV on your PSP locally via wireless or from anywhere in the world that has a Wi-Fi connection. If you want to use PlayTV from a remote location (if you have a PSP, you're definitely going to want to), then you're going to need a router and a broadband connection to hook it up.

Installation

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The PlayTV package includes the PlayTV USB tuner and a disc that installs new software on your PlayStation 3 hard drive. The installation adds a "TV" icon to the PlayStation 3's XrossMediaBar, and selecting it allows you to jump straight into the PlayTV software. Assuming you've connected an aerial antenna and you're in a digital area (UK users can check on Freeview's site for availability), automatic tuning of the channels takes about five minutes. From there, you're ready to watch some TV!

Using PlayTV

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The interface for PlayTV is pretty slick, sporting the same colourful menus and rounded icons of the main PlayStation 3 XMB menu. You can navigate the menu system using either a DualShock3 or Sixaxis controller, and Sony claims that it has made the controls as simple as possible for people who don't have a Blu-Ray remote. While changing channels and pausing playback is simple enough, you have to use an onscreen remote if you want to input channel numbers or text pages. There are seven icons on the main menu, with the default option being "Live TV."

Live TV

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Selecting Live TV from the menu takes you straight into the live video or audio stream currently being broadcast. PlayTV supports both digital TV and radio, which you can flip between using the onscreen guide. The PlayTV box actually includes two tuners, so you can record one channel while watching a completely different one.

You can also pause the live TV at any time, allowing you to leave the room and come back to resume exactly where you left off. Because this buffering puts a constant strain on the hard drive, it's only activated when you press the pause button. You can force PlayTV to buffer the live TV stream all the time if you want, but it's not activated by default because of the increase in hard drive activity. While Sony says that its laptop drives are robust enough to cope with buffering, the high rate of return for Sky+ boxes has encouraged Sony to disable it by default.

One of the nicest visual touches of Live TV is the dissolving effect as you move between channels--a touch of gloss that's missing from most digital TV devices.

Guide

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PlayTV's guide pulls scheduling information straight from the airwaves, which includes programme title and schedule times. It also includes a short blurb about the show and its stars. The guide holds information for all channels up to seven days into the future, allowing you to record anything that's listed during the week ahead.

Unlike some recording systems, such as Sky+, PlayTV doesn't include a series link function that can record every episode of your favourite series automatically. However, if there's something on at a regular time, you can set daily or weekly repeat functions for each of your recordings.

Find & Record

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Searching for programmes based on keywords is one feature that PlayTV has over most other Freeview tuners. You can search for certain criteria not only through titles, but also by searching for accompanying information. This means that a search for "simpson" would bring up listings for both the Simpsons animated TV show and programmes starring Jessica Simpson. As Bunting showed us, this feature also allows you to search for programmes about New Zealand, even if New Zealand isn't in the title.

Manual

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The system manual is accessible through the PlayTV software itself in addition to being included in the box. Using the system should be a cinch for anyone used to Freeview recorders, but newbies may need to use the manual to understand some of the advanced recording and buffering settings.

Settings

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PlayTV doesn't offer a massive amount of customisation options, but there are plenty of European languages available, including Gaelic and Welsh. For the hard of hearing, there are also options to display standard subtitles or hard-of-hearing audio tracks. The settings menu allows you to tinker with the storage options, as well as decide on the quality of video you want to send to your PlayStation Portable.

Schedule

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If you want to set up a repeat recording or know exactly what time your favourite shows are on, then you can bypass the guide and set recording schedules manually from there. You can set up daily and weekly repeat recordings, so if your show is on at the same time, you can always make sure that PlayTV captures it when you're out.

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PlayTV allows you to record both video and audio from digital TV and radio, respectively. The MPEG-2 stream for video is stored in its original form, so there is no degradation in video or audio quality between the live broadcast and the recording. Controversially, there's no copy protection encrypted onto the recording, so you're free to back up anything you record to another device for storage. Likewise, audio is recorded in the MP3 format and can be moved around at will, including to a PlayStation Portable or an MP3 player. PlayTV helpfully adds tag information to the MP3 files for this very purpose, so you can see what you're listening to on any device that supports MP3 tagging.

Recording sizes differ depending on the quality of the original broadcast. In the UK, BBC channels typically take up the highest bandwidth and, therefore, use more space on the hard drive once stored. Lower bit rate channels, such as Dave, take up less room once stored. There are no options to downgrade the quality of stored recordings because the original broadcast data is stored on the hard drive.

If you have special recordings that you want to watch outside of the PlayTV software, then you can export the files directly to the PlayStation 3 XMB. This allows you to watch them using the built-in media player, although once exported, these files disappear from the PlayTV menu.

Remote Play

Some of the best PlayTV features are available to PlayStation Portable owners. Every feature of PlayTV can also be accessed via remote play on a PSP, which means that you can watch TV, schedule recordings, and play stored programmes from wherever you are in the world. The PlayStation Portable can connect over a local Wi-Fi connection to the host PlayStation3 or remotely via another Wi-Fi network. The only catch is that you must leave the PlayStation 3 on standby and have it connected to the Internet.

Performance

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The menu system for PlayTV is as user-friendly and robust as we've come to expect from Sony. The interface boasts far more polish than most other Freeview equipment we've seen, while its PSP functionality will no doubt make it a must-have for frequent travellers. Displayed on a large widescreen TV, DVB performance can sometimes leave a little to be desired, with MPEG artefacts being a common occurrence on some channels. However, this is a problem facing all digital programming due to compression, and PlayTV is certainly no worse than anything else we've seen.

In terms of high definition, PlayTV does support the HD AVC streams that are currently being tested in Europe. According to Bunting, HD content from the BBC looks fantastic, and it will definitely be supported when the corporation makes it more commonplace.

Summary

PlayTV is looking promising. If you're not served by cable or satellite and have a PlayStation 3, then it's definitely worth looking into PlayTV. The release date and pricing information have yet to be announced, but according to Bunting, the software will reach master submission stage at the end of March. Encouragingly, when we suggested a final retail price of £150 (196 euros, US$298), we were told it would be "well below" that price. We look forward to seeing the finished product later in the year.
 
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Now that is awesome. Saves hassle of having 3 different things to get what you need, i.e. freeview box and radio set.
 
Very cool 👍 (Great post, too...!) When will this be available, and how much can we expect to fork out for it?
 
Thanks :) I just thought it was a very well written overview that would give everyone here all the info they need.. 👍

It sounds like a very well put together package which will truly make the PS3 the centre of everything in you living room and with the help of the PSP the centre of everything in your life! :crazy:

The article says a release date and price have not yet been announced.. :indiff: Shouldn't be too expensive, maybe the price of a Sky box or a lot less seeing as the PS3 already has a lot of the equipment on board.. Im guessing maybe £50??

Robin
 
So I'll be able to record all 5 of my channels at the same time (2 Tivo's and the PS3)?

Nice.

But for $300USD, it's not going to happen.
 
Well for those who dont have something similar its a great idea, and for those who do, it could free up a HDMI slot and some cabinet space. One thing that irks me though is why Sony didn't put some USB slots at the back of the PS3. that way you dont have cables trailing from the front to the back.

Good Idea though I will wait for the 1tb PS3 with it built in.
 
How long do you think it'll be before someone hacks the PS3 and puts some USB's on the back? 💡

Just look at all the mods people have come up with for the Asus Eee...
 
If they can do a watercooled X360 the world is your oyster with the PS3... I can't wait to see a fully kitted out one made of smoked glass instead of the cheapy plastic :crazy:

As for PlayTV I think it will be a must buy for me because I don't have sky or freeview so it makes sense...
 
I think this is a really good idea from Sony. Its a alternative to the now expensive Sky and the lack luster Freeview.

Here is a Youtube link which might help explain suff too.

 
@ TS, they have made a few USB port mods, one of them will put one USB port at the back, but you lose one in the front, and one puts 2 in the back, aswell as having the 4 up front.

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I saw in the new Argos catalogue today that this is already for sale at £60... did I just totally miss its release? No one heard anything! Unless Argos are just putting it there for when it does come out but it doesnt say next to it 'available from' etc...

Does anyone know when it officially coming out? £60 for a glorifed freeview box which costs like a tenner is way too steep... you have already paid for all the other DVR stuff (HDD) which is part of the PS3!

Having said that Im still really interested because of the slick interface and the ability to further use all the PS3 functionality.

Robin
 
I cannot wait for the release here in Australia.... rumored to be September 23rd...
 
TB
How long do you think it'll be before someone hacks the PS3 and puts some USB's on the back? 💡

Was done on the 17th of Feb 2008, before you even posted that (March 14th 2008).



The single rear port USB mod was upgraded to a double rear USB port mod on the 25th of Feb 2008....

 
How many channels will it have though? it does sound awfully good for £70 considering, would that also include HD channels and such like??
 
How many channels will it have though? it does sound awfully good for £70 considering, would that also include HD channels and such like??

No I dont think it will pick up HD, it will just pick up the 'freeview' digital channels from your aireal, to get the HD channels from the bbc or ITV you must get a satilite dish. There is no limit to the number and news ones do be added frequently. I get freeview through a digital tuner built into our tv set and the signal is spilled over from Northern Ireland and I get about 12 good channels and about 40 other bad channels. Like BBC news 24, BBC3 and 4, ITV2 and 3 channel 4+1 and more 4 etc. Also you will need a digital tuner soon to watch any tv, I think Britain is switching off the analogue tv signal emmiters pritty soon.
 
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Yea we already have Sky here at home (and in my room, not Sky HD though, but we have a normal dish) so theoretically i'd just swap the aerial cable from my Sky box, and if the PlayTV box has HD channels they should work through my PS3, yes?
 
Yea we already have Sky here at home (and in my room, not Sky HD though, but we have a normal dish) so theoretically i'd just swap the aerial cable from my Sky box, and if the PlayTV box has HD channels they should work through my PS3, yes?

I dont think so, not sure. But I think you need a different tuner for a signal such as that. The tech guys can answer that one, but I think that is the case, the Play TV will only pick up digital, DVB, signals through your aerial. But since you have sky the only benefit to you would be the ability to record to a HDD and the functionality with the PSP.
 
Hey Robin, while an old write up, it great one non the less 👍


I really want this bad, for some strange reason my PS3 message board thing was set to UK (must be default) as i have never changed in and a message came up Play TV coming soon or something along those lines, i was jumping up and down, click the link to the webpage and it was UK, then realized it was set to UK and had all my hopes and dreams squashed in a nano second LOL

Dont think this will ever come out in Aus?
 
Hey Robin, while an old write up, it great one non the less 👍


I really want this bad, for some strange reason my PS3 message board thing was set to UK (must be default) as i have never changed in and a message came up Play TV coming soon or something along those lines, i was jumping up and down, click the link to the webpage and it was UK, then realized it was set to UK and had all my hopes and dreams squashed in a nano second LOL

Dont think this will ever come out in Aus?

Well I doubt the whole continent has digital, but I'm sure the east coast has or is atleast begining to role it out. Thats what they are at here, I get the British digital TV from across the border but the tests have been carried out already and they hope to have an Irish digital TV service up and running by the end of 2009. So I will be hoping Sony release PlayTV here when that happens and I would say the same will happen in Austrailia.
 
Now that PlayTV has been released for quite some time and its sold quite well (something like 80,000 units in the first month) Im sure some of you guys have bought it. I just have a few questions...

1. Do you really have to have your PS3 on just to watch? Obviously you need it on when recording but its a real shame if you PS3 has to be on all those hours just for the freeview bit to work (wastes electricity and probably shortens the life of your console).

2. Is there any way to bypass the box straight to your TV by like splitting the ariel socket... like do some trick so you can still watch without the console fully on?

3. First it was going to be DRM free, then it wasnt, then it was.... whats the real story IS THE FINAL SHIPPED PRODUCT DRM FREE? (you can move stuff off to other devices).

4. How fast is it to change channels and navigate the interface, I know Sky is painfully slow so how does this compare?

5. Do you feel that it was worth buying?

Robin.
 
I just saw this thread. I really do think it's much more worth buying a TV Tuner card for the PC. I have one in mine, it does pick up HD and all free-to-air channels. The PlayTV looks like a bit of a novelty to me frankly but it's still pretty interesting.
 
I have it, and it is now what I use for all the TV needs... Better than my actual freeview box, and great for recording programs...
 
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