Possible to do AutoX in GT6/GT Arena?

[BrandonW77]

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, forgive me if it's been discussed and I missed it. Something I've thought would be fun in the GT games is to do a SCCA style AutoX/Auto-Cross (cones in the parking lot) with friends. I know a couple people tried it at Top Gear Test Track but I imagine pushing all the cones around was rather tedious. While reading the description of the new GT Arena I noticed this:

"This is a multipurpose arena used to accommodate tens of thousands of spectators, with a special circuit set up on its field. The total length of the course is short at 668 metres, but the variety of corners in its layout is equal to a large scale circuit. This is a great stage for Karts and small displacement cars. You can also remove the cornerstones and corner barriers to set up a variety of attractions using cones."

I'm not sure if that just means you can push them around and make your own "course" a-la TGTT in GT5 or if it means you'll actually have some proper controls to setup a defined circuit (and hopefully the cones would reset themselves if they get knocked over). Some very interesting possibilities. I, for one, would welcome our Orange Cone Overlords and would enjoy spending some Saturday afternoons knocking them over with my buddy's. Anyone else think AutoX would be a nice addition to the game?

Source: http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/products/gt6/tracks/#new If you look here at the Coffee Break image gallery you can see the Arena without the normal circuit setup, just wide open and lots of cones!

 

[PNuTButR]

"This is a multipurpose arena used to accommodate tens of thousands of spectators, with a special circuit set up on its field. The total length of the course is short at 668 metres, but the variety of corners in its layout is equal to a large scale circuit. This is a great stage for Karts and small displacement cars. You can also remove the cornerstones and corner barriers to set up a variety of attractions using cones."

I believe that all this means is that the track is effectively a new version of the Gymkhana course and the cones will be re-positioned depending on the event. It will be used for the licence tests/coffee breaks.

 

[Magic Ayrton]

I believe that all this means is that the track is effectively a new version of the Gymkhana course and the cones will be re-positioned depending on the event. It will be used for the licence tests/coffee breaks.

And seasonal events.. if we still have them which I am sure we will

 

[PNuTButR]

And seasonal events.. if we still have them which I am sure we will

I really hope they're still there! I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't introduced until a few months after the game's release, though.

Hopefully they've hired someone who will actually put effort into designing the events. The GT5 ones were monotonous.

 

[BrandonW77]

I believe that all this means is that the track is effectively a new version of the Gymkhana course and the cones will be re-positioned depending on the event. It will be used for the licence tests/coffee breaks.

Well, I know the Japanese-to-English translation can sometimes get a key element wrong but it does say "YOU can....set up a variety of attractions using cones" which would imply the user has some kind of control or influence over how the cones are set up. Or maybe not. We can only hope (but not hold our breath)!

 

[PNuTButR]

Well, I know the Japanese-to-English translation can sometimes get a key element wrong but it does say "YOU can....set up a variety of attractions using cones" which would imply the user has some kind of control or influence over how the cones are set up. Or maybe not. We can only hope (but not hold our breath)!

I'm not expecting anything more than what I've said, but I'll be very pleased if there is some kind of customisation feature!

 

[CodeRedR51]

Well, I know the Japanese-to-English translation can sometimes get a key element wrong but it does say "YOU can....set up a variety of attractions using cones" which would imply the user has some kind of control or influence over how the cones are set up. Or maybe not. We can only hope (but not hold our breath)!

Part of me hopes for this. Another part of me thinks it's similar to the Coffee breaks where you are supposed to knock the cones over.

 

[HarVee]

And seasonal events.. if we still have them which I am sure we will

Seasonal Events are confirmed on the official site to be a feature included in GT6.

 

[BrandonW77]

Agreed, I'm not expecting anything either. But the way it was worded certainly lends itself to speculation! Even if it just gave us a dozen preset cone configurations to choose from, that would be great. Or perhaps a random cone course generator similar to what GT5 has in online rooms for course maker circuits.

 

[RacingPanda]

Hehe, exactly this phrase got me hyped as well. I really hope we can put cones everywhere on this, uhm, course. And believe me, it's a lot of fun to do autocross with karts - I do it in real life and it's awesome. (except if you're bad at it, like me. )
But if I should be honest ... I doubt that the "best case" will happen. But on the other side, I can't believe that we'll only get one standard configuration like in GT4. My guess is that we'll get the option to choose from different configuration presets, like it's mentioned in the post above.

 

[sems4arsenal]

I was surpised there is no Race of champions esque stage.

 

[Slalom]

Anyone hear anymore about this? I too hope there will be some ability to control layouts and have decent autox simulation.

 

[reaperman]

I'm not getting my hopes up on autoX actually showing up in any useful form, but I'd really like it to happen. I don't see why there couldn't be a very basic "cone editor" in the upcoming course editing function that would even allow for automatic scoring based on hitting them, and even handicap scores based on PP.

Also, keying in on the 'tens of thousands of spectators' could that possibly be a huge room with lots of people watching and waiting for their turn--I'm also trying to keep my expections of that happening pretty low, but if it happened, it'd be a nice place to chat around between runs.

I never figured out why they didn't have large rooms for us to interact with each other and break off into smaller groups for racing. Not many racing games have anything like that (modnation racers kind of does) but it's something that could really drive the social aspect.

 

[03SonicWRX]

I would be very much for this. I also wish they could implement a "hot seat" type of gameplay, where each person could pick their own car, then swap seats with everyone getting a few runs, and it gives the results after a certain number of runs, with penalties for hitting cones and handicaps/boosts for running higher/lower class cars (like the PAX system in SCCA Autocross).

It would also be awesome if you could change the surface material for the GT Arena (for RallyCross as well), but that is extremely wishful thinking.

If these aren't implemented, I wouldn't be heartbroken, but it would be a welcome addition.

 

[FRoSTeD]

A cone editor!?

My drift limbo dreams come true!

Not getting my hopes too high though.

 

[BrandonW77]

Also, keying in on the 'tens of thousands of spectators' could that possibly be a huge room with lots of people watching and waiting for their turn--I'm also trying to keep my expections of that happening pretty low, but if it happened, it'd be a nice place to chat around between runs.

I'm pretty sure that just means "virtual spectators", not real people. 16 in a room will likely still be the limit, I think that's the most it can handle without having dedicated servers.

 

[Slalom]

Live for speed looks to have a very nice autocross setup, I imagine for pd it wouldn't be at all hard to make. Too bad it will likely be closer to that of gt4's coffee break area.

 

[BrandonW77]

My guess is that we'll be this close to being able to setup some sort of proper AutoX but some weird feature/rule/restriction will keep us from being able to fully do it right. Their wording certainly makes it sound like we can do it, but it could be a slight mistranslation too. Something as simple as a random cone course generator or a couple dozen preset cone configurations would do just fine.

And if they wanted to be super awesome they'd let us create a course with a crossover and two start/finish lines, a la Race Of Champions. I know that's the first thing a lot of people think when they see that arena!! I'd be dumbfounded if that's possible though.

 

[Zuel]

How can the GT Arena be a new version of a Gymkhana course @PNuTButR, when Gymkhana events has never been in GT5 or any of the others? Though if we do have the options to move the cones around to make our auto x, cross or make a learning course as some believe, it would open a number of possibilities. We'll just have to wait to see.

 

[BrandonW77]

How can the GT Arena be a new version of a Gymkhana course @PNuTButR, when Gymkhana events has never been in GT5 or any of the others?

According to this, some version of a Gymkhana course was in previous versions of GT before GT5.
http://gran-turismo.wikia.com/wiki/Driving_Park

 

[Zuel]

Really the first Gymkhana to make it to Gran Turismo. WOW. Shocking, chocking on my drink.

 

[BrandonW77]

I think you must have misread that, GT5 was the first to NOT have a gymkhana course. The earlier games DID have gymkhana.

From the above link:

The Driving Park facility is an area of testing tracks in the Gran Turismo Series. It exists, in part or as a whole, in all mainline versions of the game except GT5. Driving Park consists of Test Course, Motorland, Beginner Course,Gymkhana Circuit, Circle Courses andComplex String.

Gymkhana is an open paved area of the Driving Park facility used for the Coffee Breaks on Gran Turismo 4's license tests. In these Coffee Breaks cones are arranged in different setups depending on the level of the license.

Gymkhana can also be accessed via the Driving Park area of the Gran Turismo map.

 

[tomkat492]

I feel like the track will be there and everything, but.. the ability to use it in Auto-X form won't. You might actually be able to race it like it were a normal track, but you're not gonna be able to get people out there and post times. As is, Gran Turismo won't even post someone's hot lap at the end of a race, just their full race time. Who knows. Maybe someone will figure something out, haha.

 

[BrandonW77]

You just set it for a one lap race and send one car out at a time, basically a bunch of one lap, one car races and from the results screen you can see their time. You'd have to record everyone's times manually and tally them but that's easy enough. If they allow us to create or generate a course with cones then we'd be all set!

 

[Johnnypenso]

You just set it for a one lap race and send one car out at a time, basically a bunch of one lap, one car races and from the results screen you can see their time. You'd have to record everyone's times manually and tally them but that's easy enough. If they allow us to create or generate a course with cones then we'd be all set!

It would be quite easy for the game engine to just stage the cars in a line and release them at 10 second intervals or a number set by the host. I have a feeling they will do this with Goodwood. You may be able to do this manually, but it'd be awfully cumbersome...lol. I know you hate cumbersome!

 

[sparkytooth]

If we can configure cone placement bro, we can bring about all the miatas bro, to Auto X them bro.

 

[BrandonW77]

It would be quite easy for the game engine to just stage the cars in a line and release them at 10 second intervals or a number set by the host. I have a feeling they will do this with Goodwood. You may be able to do this manually, but it'd be awfully cumbersome...lol. I know you hate cumbersome!

Well, sure, they could do it easy enough, just like in the rally special events of GT5. I guess I'm just used to the. Leaving out the simplest of options and making us figure out ways to do it on our own.

And Excel would handle the cumbersome parts. I wouldn't be hosting a weekly autox with the manual method, but maybe every now and then.