PS4 wheel options following GT2 failure

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robdrums2097

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sula_rob
Hi all,

I bought a PS4 especially so I could retain my trusty Fanatec GT2 wheel. I also have the standard Porsche shifters & V2 Clubsport pedals.

I was about to upgrade to 756 firmware & I'm getting the 888 calibration error. The wheel is out of warranty, so although I'm awaiting a response from fanatec, I'm also considering my best next option assuming repair won't be possible / viable. I only use PS4 at the moment & I'd like to retain my CSP V2 pedals if possible. I'd also like a better shifter eventually / now. I may go PC one day too when I'm braver. :-)

Oh and I use a Wheelstand Pro Deluxe V2 for Fanatec.

As I see it, my options are as follows: I'd appreciate others' thoughts & suggestions I might have missed.

1) Source another Fanatec wheel to replace the GT2. This would appear to limit me to the hugely expensive Clubsport rims & base or a used Porsche base. Not feeling the Fanatec love at the moment, obviously.

2) Sell the pedals & get a Thrustmaster T300RS, T3PA & T8HA. I'd lose money on the pedals, be downgrading pedals but at least it's all plug & play.

3) As above but T150 if I want to economise.

4) Keep the pedals & buy a T300RS (and T8HA shifter?) and Basherboards thing to connect the CSP.

4) Sell the pedals & buy a Logitech G29. No particularly decent shifter or pedals but these are on sale for £180 at Currys at the moment. Is there any way to use the CSP (or indeed Theustmaster's stuff) with these without using an adaptor?


I'm not, like mega into it, but I've enjoyed the quality & sturdiness of the Fanatec stuff. So I'm not looking for real cheap plastic stuff, but these days don't get to play with it as much as I'd like. So a T150 may be an option.

Also will I have any mounting difficulty with my existing stand if I changed to Thrustmaster or


Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Rob
 
T300RS + CPX and CSP + TH8A is a great combo. It's not Clubsport but it's not nearly as expensive.

PLUS... you get full PS4 compatibility. Fanatec is at present only supported on PS4 in a few games, because they don't have a SONY license.

I use a similar setup, T500RS + CPX and CSPv1 + TH8RS. Basically the same but all the older stuff, lol.
 
That's what I'm leaning toward if I can't replace or repair the GT2, as I'd lose too much in selling the pedals to warrant downgrading to TM pedals even with the cost of the BB. Even though it seems the CPX is on a long back order...

Any idea if the T300 (or even a 500) would fit in the same mount on my Wheelstand? (Again I've emailed them)?

I always wanted the Fanatec shifter. Would that work with the T300 via a BB adaptor too or would I have to get the TH8A?

Thanks

Rob
 
Yeah, they're scarce. I actually got my CPX used from another forum member. :P

Your Wheelstand Pro should work fine. I used my T500RS on a Fanatec Rennsport stand with the clamp for several months. No problems. You might need to drill new hard mount holes if you don't like using the clamp.

I don't know about the Fana shifter, sorry, but I really like the TM one. I'm sure Mr Basher or DSD or someone has some kind of genius solution tho.
 
They do the USB shifter adaptor, but I'm not sure if that connects to the T300 or if it's for connection to USB directly. But two adaptors would be daft, I'd just stick with the Fanatec ecosystem if I wanted to stick with their accessories.

I think it'll be T300 if the GT2 can't be saved.

Rob
 
The Wheelstand Pro v2 deluxe should have Thrustmaster holes and should allow you to hard mount wheel, pedals and shifter, but you might need to buy a couple of extra bits (pedals hard mount plate or shifter plate), since the WSP comes in many variants with differing bits.

I have my T500 with TH8A on a WSPv2 deluxe at the moment, works great.

In terms of wheel choice... I still own a GT2 in addition to a G25 and a T300. For me the GT2 was always too damped and I never really liked the hand position on the rim. The T300 has more power than the GT2 or G25/29 and has a very low amount of internal resistance which gives me a better end result. If you grab the T300 alcantara set you would get the 30cm alcantara rim which will be the same width and higher quality feel than the GT2 but should let you feel right at home, except more power and less resistance.

The Thrustmaster pedals are a downgrade from the CSPs, of course, but perfectly useable. Trouble with the Fanatec pedal adapter is that it might well take a long time to arrive due to being made in his free time, but if you get the T300 alcantara set you effectively get the TH8A pedals for free and to use temporarily until your adapter arrives.

Edit: forgot to mention that the TH8A is really a lot better than the Fanatec Porsche shifters. Seriously much better.
 
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But not quite Clubsport Shifter...?

Fanatec don't have a similar priced standalone replacement for the GT2 / CSRs, do they? They seem to have gone up to just catering for the Clubsport rims & bases (for PS4 which is just a bit more than I want to pay).

Rob
 
robdrums2097
So no votes for the G29, even for the current reduced prices?
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I recently upgraded from a G25 to a GT2, & can honestly say that I couldn't go back to the G25 as it's an inferior product imo. The G25 is very similar to the G27 which is in turn almost identical to the G29. I think the G29's FFB will be a serious downgrade for you because you are used to the GT2's smoother belt drive system.
 
Yeah, I think you're right. I don't *really* want to spend T300 alcantara money at the moment, but I know what I'm like; I find the idea of voluntarily downgrading anything completely unthinkable.

Maybe I'll just put the CSP on eBay & go all TM considering the CPX costs nearly the same as the TM pedals (but less than CSP depreciation).

Rob
 
On the other side, has anyone had any joy in fixing the 888 error by either reflashing/ updating the base and / or replacing the self-calibration sensor?
 
robdrums2097
But not quite Clubsport Shifter...?

Fanatec don't have a similar priced standalone replacement for the GT2 / CSRs, do they? They seem to have gone up to just catering for the Clubsport rims & bases (for PS4 which is just a bit more than I want to pay).

Rob
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Well you can't use the Fanatec shifter on PS4 unless you have full Fanatec Clubsport kit. So it's not an option. I'm sure it's better than the TH8A, but the jump up from Porsche (or Logitech) shifters to the TH8A is huge.

Fanatec is clearly in the process of dropping the old CSR line and the Porsche wheels, in favour of a new "less expensive than Clubsport" line called CSL. Right now it's only a single rim for Xbox One / PC: http://www.fanatec.com/eu-en/steeri...net&utm_campaign=General+Links&a_aid=gtplanet however the next steps are clearly to produce a wheelbase in line with the rim pricing, and to produce a replacement set for the CSR Elite pedals (or maybe just rebrand CSR Elites to CSL).

Whether the new wheel will be fully licensed for PS4 is unclear. We know it will support pCARS, F1 2015 and The Crew because those three contain the Fanatec PS4 drivers embedded. Other games are dependent on game vendors working with Fanatec, unless Fanatec decides to fully license their wheels with Sony. Given that the first rim is Xbox One, I personally suspect that the CSL will be Xbox One licensed with PC and limited PS4 support, at least at first.
 
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skazz
Well you can't use the Fanatec shifter on PS4 unless you have full Fanatec Clubsport kit. So it's not an option.
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Is that right? I was under the distinct impression that it was perfectly compatible with my GT2 on any platform. It just says on the website that it's compatible with any Fanatec wheel.

What do you think my chances are of fixing my Porsche wheel? Has anyone successfully changed the sensor that apparently causes the 888 problem?

Rob
 
robdrums2097
Is that right? I was under the distinct impression that it was perfectly compatible with my GT2 on any platform. It just says on the website that it's compatible with any Fanatec wheel.

What do you think my chances are of fixing my Porsche wheel? Has anyone successfully changed the sensor that apparently causes the 888 problem?

Rob
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I've not heard of anyone fixing an 888 problem, but you can always contact Fanatec and see what they say.

Shifter compatibility is a tricky one... pCARS official wheel support list doesn't mention the Clubsport shifter for PS4 or Xbox One, only PC: http://www.projectcarsgame.com/beyond-reality.html however http://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/153/fanatec-on-playstation-4-and-xbox-one implies that they might work when plugged into the wheel base... And then this implies only H and not sequential http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sh...p=936236&viewfull=1#post936236&a_aid=gtplanet so I'm not really sure. Hard to find complete info.
 
robdrums2097
On the other side, has anyone had any joy in fixing the 888 error by either reflashing/ updating the base and / or replacing the self-calibration sensor?
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I recently bought a second hand Fanatec wheel that was faulty with the 888 error, I was planning on trying to fix it myself but decided to just sell it on instead. I did a lot of research (Googling) on the error & found that it had different causes. Most times it was the calibration sensor that was causing it, othertimes it was just a loose wire that needed re-soldering.

There was a guy on ebay who was selling sensors for the GT2 wheel, but he's out of stock at the moment. Maybe Fanatec have a few lying around.
 
To be fair, the more I read & think, the more I'm tempted just to sell all my Fanatec stuff including the pedals & just get the T300 RS / 599... But I guess I should give them a chance to fix it.

Rob
 
What are thoughts on
RS vs GTE Ferrari (GTE is £10 more)? I've read numerous forum threads & articles on this debate but I've been impressed with this forum so far. :-)

Is the PS4 button mapping that useful or disconcerting on the GTE being not PlayStation specific? I can't even think what most of the face buttons do in most racing games.

Also, are the majority of the dials & knobs non-functional on the F1 rim (on console)?
 
I think the standard Playstation wheel looks better and has more buttons, the GTE is a little more "real" and they both feel about the same.

That 599 rim is really nice tho. I have a custom 350mm rim with a faceplate but if I didn't...
 
I've got to admit the G29 is seeming a tempting prospect. Reliability and a good sale price.

On Curry's, you can get the leather G29 wheel, H-shifter and 3 pedal setup for £185 (and I can get 7% further off that). Sadly, use of my CSPs seemingly is not an option.

The same setup would be double that in Thrustmaster.

At Amazon prices, £202 for the 300 RS, £114 for the shifter, £76 for the pedals OR about the same for a CPX to use my CSP = £392. Even more for the 599 suede rim.

Nearly what my Fanatec rig cost, which I've already lost money on.

Complete Logitech setup for less than £185 or double for T300?

Thanks

Rob
 
That's up to you to say, however the G29 has a very different feel being gear on gear driven.
 
robdrums2097
What are thoughts on
RS vs GTE Ferrari (GTE is £10 more)? I've read numerous forum threads & articles on this debate but I've been impressed with this forum so far. :-)

Is the PS4 button mapping that useful or disconcerting on the GTE being not PlayStation specific? I can't even think what most of the face buttons do in most racing games.

Also, are the majority of the dials & knobs non-functional on the F1 rim (on console)?
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I own the RS and GTE rims. I only ever use the RS rim because I prefer the layout for both PS4 use and in any PC games which allow you to use the wheel buttons to navigate menus (like Codemasters games or pCARS).

The GTE rim button layout really isn't bad, and you can easily adjust, plus the GTE buttons are nicer to use (higher quality feel), but the PlayStation layout is just easy so I keep using the RS rim and the GTE rim (which I originally bought for my T500) stays in the box.


As for G29 for half the price of the T300 set: for that price it is certainly a good deal. Personally I always preferred my G25 over my GT2, because I dislike excessive damping and never got on with the GT2 hand position, so I wouldn't call the G29 a downgrade over what you now have, more of a sidegrade (OK, except the pedals, that will be a serious downgrade). I definitely think the T300 is worth the price it costs, since it is better in all areas than the Logitech, and likewise the step up to a CSWv2 over the Thrustmaster is valid. It all just comes down to the budget you feel comfortable spending. You do get what you pay for.
 
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Thank you. Great summary of both what I already knew and what I wanted to know. :-)

The G29 is compelling, but I'd probably regret it, even though the reliability card is currently a strong suit following the death of my Fanatec & I worry if the 300 lives up to its infamy. I'll definitely, if I do, go RS over GTE, thank you. And then may look to source alcantara &/or F1 rims later / used.

Logitech seems to be just as it is with zero customisation (or use of Fanatec pedals). I just hope I'm one of the lucky TM owners!

Rob
 
Another option is get a second hand GT2 on ebay, then sell your one on as faulty or keep it for spares.
 
So...

Like all the best faults with real cars, turning it off and on again - or in this case flashing the new firmware and resetting the wheel and calibration - appears to have fixed it. It still says 888 on startup, but clears and goes straight to - - which I believe is normal. Took absolutely ages to do, and I had to get our old windows XP PC out of the loft as Windows 10 wouldn't have any of it due to old 'unregistered' drivers! Won't know for sure until I find some time to actually set it up and play a game, but it would appear that I am remaining for now in the boutique, beautiful world of Fanatec!

But thanks for all the help & advice. At least I know what I'll do if / when it does expire!

See you all on track, I hope. :-)

Rob
 

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