Qualifying in GT6 ???

[AuToNoMy]

Has any body seen or heard that qualifying will be brought back in GT6. Because for me personally it the deciding factor that will make me buy it as I am fed up of this stupid chase the rabbit mode and I refuse to take part in any more of these annoying seasonal's were the fastest car is on pole position and is already halfway round the track while your trying to overtake the last dumb A.I car at the back of the grid on the first corner

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Nobody knows yet. You'll just have to wait for more info at Gamescom and TGS.

 

[MoLiEG]

We know as much as you do. Almost nothing. We'll just have to wait and see... I just hope this is one of the few things were PD actually used some common sense.

 

[Jerwin]

There's no point in qualifying if the AI is gonna be slow anyway.

 

[Blank_Redge]

To Jerwin's point: I hope the AI is beefed up some, because the AI in the demo is laughable.

I *do* hope they bring back qualifying. "Rabbit chase" is less appealing.

 

[eran0004]

Has any body seen or heard that qualifying will be brought back in GT6. Because for me personally it the deciding factor that will make me buy it as I am fed up of this stupid chase the rabbit mode and I refuse to take part in any more of these annoying seasonal's were the fastest car is on pole position and is already halfway round the track while your trying to overtake the last dumb A.I car at the back of the grid on the first corner

If the seasonals had qualification you would qualify in pole position and then you would have five laps of free run with a bit of cash at the end.

Qualification hardly solves anything on the racing department.

 

[AuToNoMy]

I think they are pointless anyway seeing as every time you can only pick some stupidly overpowered car just to win the damn thing I don't think they are promoting themselves well. We all know everyone complains when online and some fool turns up with a redbull or a Mintola LM car but it's just the way they have learnt to win

And if I did qualify in a reasonably fast car I would be in the middle of the pack and have a better chance at getting to the front without having the pass all the wideboy cars

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Qualifying only makes sense if you are restricted on the car PP and tires. Maybe this will be the case. Note that the demo shows the example races are for cars with xxx PP so if this carries over into the game then there will be no more winning the Sunday Cup with a FGT or some other way overpowered car like that.

 

[Exorcet]

Qualifying only makes sense if you are restricted on the car PP and tires. Maybe this will be the case. Note that the demo shows the example races are for cars with xxx PP so if this carries over into the game then there will be no more winning the Sunday Cup with a FGT or some other way overpowered car like that.

Qualifying makes the same sense regardless of rules. Having no PP limit doesn't keep anyone from using a PP balanced car. And using a car with a PP advantage doesn't mean that car is superoverpowered and the player will auto win.

It should be in GT no matter what, and hopefully any PP limits in the game can be ignored so people can bring FGT's into the Sunday Cup if they want.

 

[mister dog]

If the seasonals had qualification you would qualify in pole position and then you would have five laps of free run with a bit of cash at the end.

Qualification hardly solves anything on the racing department.

Yes because the AI sucks like you can't imagine. If they would set faster times to begin with and we would be restricted on PP and tyres we would have it harder to qualify on pole + we would have a run for our money also during the race 👍

It all depends on how much they improve the AI; as this whole "chase the rabbit" thing was only introduced to disguise how bad and slow the AI in GT5 actually was...
If they bother to improve the AI they can implement the traditional race formula again with qualifying. It worked in the early GT's so why wouldnt it work now?

 

[AuToNoMy]

If they bother to improve the AI they can implement the traditional race formula again with qualifying. It worked in the early GT's so why wouldnt it work now?

Which is exactly what I want the good ole days of qualifying

 

[Patric1964]

Has any body seen or heard that qualifying will be brought back in GT6. Because for me personally it the deciding factor that will make me buy it as I am fed up of this stupid chase the rabbit mode and I refuse to take part in any more of these annoying seasonal's were the fastest car is on pole position and is already halfway round the track while your trying to overtake the last dumb A.I car at the back of the grid on the first corner

i agree, would be a thing to buy or not to buy!

 

[Johnnypenso]

Qualifying should be there, online and off, it's a core element to any racing experience. The fact that it isn't there really makes GT kind of a joke, makes it look more like a game for kids rather than serious racers. Even online, for those of you that didn't play, qualifying only worked if you stayed on the track. If you went out and set fastest time, then went to the garage and made some adjustments to your car, your time was still posted in the room as top time (by itself, it wasn't beside your name), but you got kicked to the back of the pack unless you had time to go out and put another qualifying lap in.

Offline, if you have a target time to beat, at least it gives you the opportunity to choose a competitive car/tire combination, as opposed to having to run the race and figure it out by trial and error and restart the race if you want to run with the pack.

 

[ALMSDriver1]

I absolutely hate the "chase" style starts that PD uses, I agree that bringing back qualifying would be a lot more realistic and would solve having to use an over-powered car to have any chance of winning the event. All we can do is hope I guess.

 

[dr_slump]

But if you start from Pole in a-spec mode... together with the brilliant AI... wouldn't that be boring?





No worries, I'd like to see qualifying as well.

 

[Akmuq]

The option should be there at least.

 

[Imari]

But if you start from Pole in a-spec mode... together with the brilliant AI... wouldn't that be boring?

Two wrongs don't make a right. Taking away qualifying just to try and hide the terrible AI is a bad move. The good move would be to improve the AI.

 

[kjb]

The option should be there at least.

I totally agree it makes sense to the option to qualify available if you want to do it. If not just skip and start at the back.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The option should be there at least.

Like many others you mean?

 

[NABeast]

I miss qualifying for the simple fact of testing my setup and making adjustments before the race.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I miss qaulifying for the simple fact of testing my setup and making adjustments before the race.

I'd give your comment a thousand likes if I could.

 

[MXH]

Considering the fact that we've only seen the same old rolling starts (and yet to see actual gameplay footage of standing starts (besides the Vision GT trailer) ), I think it's fairly safe to assume that it will follow the same path of GT4 and GT5.

If the AI is in fact the scapegoat, why not put restrictions as in GT2 to at least trying to give the players a challenge? Skip the (broken?) PP system and replace it with horsepower limits, tire restrictions and et cetera.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Considering the fact that we've only seen the same old rolling starts (and yet to see actual gameplay footage of standing starts (besides the Vision GT trailer) ), I think it's fairly safe to assume that it will follow the same path of GT4 and GT5.

If the AI is in fact the scapegoat, why not put restrictions as in GT2 to at least trying to give the players a challenge? Skip the (broken?) PP system and replace it with horsepower limits, tire restrictions and et cetera.

Or fix the AI. I don't race offline, but others have mentioned that in Arcade mode you could actually create some decent AI, it just wasn't the same in ASpec or Seasonals. Why this isn't also possible in ASpec is a mystery.

And the PP system while roundly trounced is still better than HP/Weight in determining performance because it takes into account the chassis performance and grip levels, which HP weight does not. Many cars of identical weight and HP are nowhere near each other on the track.

 

[MXH]

Or fix the AI. I don't race offline, but others have mentioned that in Arcade mode you could actually create some decent AI, it just wasn't the same in ASpec or Seasonals. Why this isn't also possible in ASpec is a mystery.

In my opinion, the AI is still dumb as ever in Arcade Mode on the highest difficulty. They just have an overall better pace throughout the course and that's about it. They still act like obstacles, rather than racing you. It's dull.

And the PP system while roundly trounced is still better than HP/Weight in determining performance because it takes into account the chassis performance and grip levels, which HP weight does not. Many cars of identical weight and HP are nowhere near each other on the track.

The same can be said for the PP system, but I do get your point and agree. It was merely a suggestion based purely on nostalgia if PD had to look somewhere else to make the the AI appear more competitive. Though, there has to be more factors taken into account to make the PP system better and more accurate - drivetrain (if it doesn't already), choice of tires, suspension and transmission upgrades as well. It would then make a pretty good system, I believe.

Edit: Since I doubt we'll see qualifying in GT Mode, PD could at least in some way use the PP system to determine one's starting position on the grid. A similiar system worked brilliantly in Enthusia where the car's performance (according to the game) decided your starting position (better performance equaled a position further back on the grid and vice versa). The AI was just a few steps above GT4's but still made for some great racing - probably the best I've ever had on any console racer.

 

[ShiftingGears]

But if you start from Pole in a-spec mode... together with the brilliant AI... wouldn't that be boring?

If you started in a significantly slower car and were forced to block and drive defensively to win it's much more interesting than the current scenario of starting from last and having to be several seconds a lap faster and flying past opponents in order to catch the AI starting a kilometre ahead IMO.

 

[Imari]

If you started in a significantly slower car and were forced to block and drive defensively to win it's much more interesting than the current scenario of starting from last and having to be several seconds a lap faster and flying past opponents in order to catch the AI starting a kilometre ahead IMO.

Hell, at least it would be something different to chasing the rabbit. GT has two types of races, chase-the-rabbit and time trial. And really, time trials are just chase-the-rabbit but without the rabbit.

 

[88GTA]

Qualifying has been confirmed for online racing here. Hopefully this carries over into offline races as an option.

Copied from the link:
"In Gran Turismo 6, features that were not supported officially in the previous title will now be included: online lobby time trials, drift trials and races with qualifying rounds are just a few examples. Users will also be able to create customised rooms tailored to their favourite play-style and these settings can be saved and shared with others."

 

[dr_slump]

Two wrongs don't make a right. Taking away qualifying just to try and hide the terrible AI is a bad move. The good move would be to improve the AI.

Like I said, I'd like to see qualifying.

But from my experience with quite some other racing titles, I often found myself starting from the last position. Not because I was that bad, because I often liked the "challenge" to overtake the AI instead of staying at the first position.

However, what I really wanted to say is that they need to make the AI better first, so that qualifying actually does start to make sense.
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If you started in a significantly slower car and were forced to block and drive defensively to win it's much more interesting than the current scenario of starting from last and having to be several seconds a lap faster and flying past opponents in order to catch the AI starting a kilometre ahead IMO.

I don't really want to use ridiculously slow cars just to have a competition. If I drive GT500, I want to drive cars with the weight, power, downforce, tyres as they'd normally use.

Always castrating cars is not the solution.


EDIT: Read indented phrase.

 

[stuminator]

I don't really mind "chasing the rabbit". The only issue I have with it is like others have mentioned, in some races the lead car is almost a full lap ahead by the time you start. You have to have a near-perfect race to even get close. Even if qualifying is available, I usually just start the race without qualifying & see how good I can do. If I'm not close to winning, then I'll qualify next attempt.

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

Qualifying would be fine so long as it is optional. For the most part I would not use it as I can usually win from the back of the pack, its more interesting that way and there is no credits for qualifying so it is more a waste of time in GTMode unless they make the AI a lot faster and restrict the cars/tires that can enter.

Would be a nice option for online lobbies for those who want it. Even there I prefer not to start on the poll unless I am racing with some very good or very dirty drivers. More of a challenge moving up through the pack.