Question about names

[huskeR32]

Why is having a PSN tag that starts with "GTP_" a requirement for these events? I've always been very interested in joining some of these events/leagues, but to be frank, this requirement always immediately turns me off to the whole idea. My PSN name doesn't contain that beginning, and I'm not going to start a new one just for this. What possible difference does it make to results of these events if my name doesn't conform?

 

[CodeRedR51]

I think you meant to put this in the WRS section.

 

[Carlos Fandango]

'Because those are the rules' is probably the simplest answer. It's the work of a moment to create a new account and level up with all the rewards that are available through the seasonal events, but since "my PSN name doesn't contain that beginning, and I'm not going to start a new one just for this", that's probably of no interest to you

Note that you can edit the account name on your PS3 to have a GTP tag, but you'd have to make sure you ran all events without being signed into the PSN (otherwise the game would pick up your PSN name instead of your PS3 name).

 

[poolhaas]

It's 30 minutes work of maybe less with these seasonals to get an account up and running and race your way to level 13ish. It's hardly an effort.
Or you can do what Carlos said, I've done it once or twice with cars that were too expensive to swap but you would have to log off everytime you want to do a time trial, which is more of an effort on a longer period.

 

[huskeR32]

I appreciate the suggestions guys, but nobody has actually answered the question. I don't care if it's "hardly an effort." I don't want more than one PSN account, period. You can think that's silly, or whatever, but I don't want to do it.

I'm just curious as to why this rule exists. That's it.

 

[fryercar]

I appreciate the suggestions guys, but nobody has actually answered the question. I don't care if it's "hardly an effort." I don't want more than one PSN account, period. You can think that's silly, or whatever, but I don't want to do it.

I'm just curious as to why this rule exists. That's it.

It is a basic way of letting others know that you have read the GTP OLR and will abide by its rules.

 

[OwensRacing]

I appreciate the suggestions guys, but nobody has actually answered the question. I don't care if it's "hardly an effort." I don't want more than one PSN account, period. You can think that's silly, or whatever, but I don't want to do it.

I'm just curious as to why this rule exists. That's it.

You are not the only one that finds this requirement to be a major turn off.

I went as far as to set up a GTP account. Started trying to get cars moved over. After about an hour of messing I realized it would take a load of time to get the GTP account where it would have cars and money so I could enjoy it. However after spending over a year on my main account. I have no interest in a GTP account now. Nor do I have interest in WRS because of this.

It is a basic way of letting others you have read the GTP OLR and will abide by its rules.

What? I abide by these and I don't race under a GTP tag.

It's basically time for people to drop the elitist crap and allow people to enter. A name is just that a name.

By keeping people out of a Series over their username is just wrong.

 

[huskeR32]

It is a basic way of letting others know that you have read the GTP OLR and will abide by its rules.

Most online series already require that you post in a certain thread to "register." This could serve the same purpose of showing that you're aware of the rules...

EDIT: Thanks for the answer. I don't think it's a good reason, but at least you provided an answer 👍

You are not the only one that finds this requirement to be a major turn off.

I went as far as to set up a GTP account. Started trying to get cars moved over. After about an hour of messing I realized it would take a load of time to get the GTP account where it would have cars and money so I could enjoy it. However after spending over a year on my main account. I have no interest in a GTP account now. Nor do I have interest in WRS because of this.

Exactly.

 

[fryercar]

Most online series already require that you post in a certain thread to "register." This could serve the same purpose of showing that you're aware of the rules...

EDIT: Thanks for the answer. I don't think it's a good reason, but at least you provided an answer 👍



If you think its a good reason or not, that's your opinion. If you can't follow a basic rule, why would others assume that you'll follow the OLR?

 

[EDK]

Why is having a PSN tag that starts with "GTP_" a requirement for these events? I've always been very interested in joining some of these events/leagues, but to be frank, this requirement always immediately turns me off to the whole idea. My PSN name doesn't contain that beginning, and I'm not going to start a new one just for this. What possible difference does it make to results of these events if my name doesn't conform?

I appreciate the suggestions guys, but nobody has actually answered the question. I don't care if it's "hardly an effort." I don't want more than one PSN account, period. You can think that's silly, or whatever, but I don't want to do it.

I'm just curious as to why this rule exists. That's it.

It's been discussed ad nauseam in these 2 threads -

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=133809

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=153651

There are probably more answers in each than you can shake a stick at.

My normal answer is -

The tag is a sign of clean and fair racing, and clearly identifies this.

With an expected registry size of more than 1,000 members, the lack of a tag will cause confusion.

We want our members using the tag for online events, and we require a tag for participation in all registry events.

The membership define it as much as we do as race admins, so their answers are certainly appropriate.

 

[huskeR32]

If you think its a good reason or not, that's your opinion. If you can't follow a basic rule, why would others assume that you'll follow the OLR?

When did I say I can't/won't follow it? If that's the rule, that's the rule. I just couldn't see for the life of me the reasoning behind it, so I asked. Your rude tone isn't really necessary.

It's been discussed ad nauseam in these 2 threads -

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=133809

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=153651

There are probably more answers in each than you can shake a stick at.

My normal answer is -

The tag is a sign of clean and fair racing, and clearly identifies this.

With an expected registry size of more than 1,000 members, the lack of a tag will cause confusion.

We want our members using the tag for online events, and we require a tag for participation in all registry events.

The membership define it as much as we do as race admins, so their answers are certainly appropriate.

Thanks. I really did try to search and couldn't find anything. I appreciate the info. 👍

 

[Vagabond]

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A GTP_ tag should also be something to be proud of, a banner to fly in the online Time Trials for instance, as well as in public online races. It means you belong to something with a recognised and respected history and are accepted by such as a clean and fair racer.

I fail to see how expecting our members to show allegiance and respect in this way is too much to ask. With an attitude that scornful, you would not be welcome in the WRS anyway to be honest.

 

[huskeR32]

I fail to see how expecting our members to show allegiance and respect in this way is too much to ask. With an attitude that scornful, you would not be welcome in the WRS anyway to be honest.

When did I say that's it's too much to ask? I'd prefer to not start a second account for something, and I'm completely OK with the fact that because of it, I won't be able to participate, I was simply asking why. That's how it usually works, if I'm curious about something, I ask.

I have no scorn at all towards the answers provided, which is why I've now thanked two different people for providing them. Any "scorn" or "attitude" is strictly being inferred by others.

 

[Vagabond]

When did I say that's it's too much to ask?

Here:

....to be frank, this requirement always immediately turns me off to the whole idea. My PSN name doesn't contain that beginning, and I'm not going to start a new one just for this.

You stated clearly you would not be prepared to undertake the steps required, ergo I surmise that you consider it too much to ask. If your intention was not to be scathing of GTP rules, you should have simply asked the question without padding it out thus.

 

[OwensRacing]

It's been discussed ad nauseam in these 2 threads -

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=133809

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=153651

There are probably more answers in each than you can shake a stick at.

My normal answer is -

The tag is a sign of clean and fair racing, and clearly identifies this.

With an expected registry size of more than 1,000 members, the lack of a tag will cause confusion.

We want our members using the tag for online events, and we require a tag for participation in all registry events.

The membership define it as much as we do as race admins, so their answers are certainly appropriate.

Irony. I'll dig up the replay from the ORCA vs WRS where I can show many WRS guys over running track boundaries. Not just one here or there repeated.

GTP tags means clean my rear!

I'm super clean like Mr Clean and I don't run that tag. However a few and only time I raced with WRS there were GTP tags abusing boundaries.

Most of the GTP tags were great and clean. However a select few kinda make your statement false. Which really mutes the point being made.

Again it's an elitist thing. One in which I don't belong. I am not an elitist or think a name makes me something.

I have no issues getting video. If I do you and show you then you guys have to drop the childish club name thing.

Truly think you guys are missing out on some great racers with this "tag" rule.

 

[huskeR32]

You stated clearly you would not be prepared to undertake the steps required, ergo I surmise that you consider it too much to ask. If your intention was not to be scathing of GTP rules, you should have simply asked the question without padding it out thus.

My intention with that was not to be scathing, but rather to try and prevent 20 people from telling me "just start a new account, it's no big deal," which is of course what happened anyways. I was just trying to establish that I didn't want to do that, and was curious as to why the rule was in place. I have an answer, thanks to those who did answer, I'm out.

 

[Biffy]

Trust me on this Owens, the people here aren't an elitist group. Yes, you will get some every now and then, as I well know when he targeted me But everyone is very welcoming here, it is a good atmosphere to be in, I just don't have the myself for it right now. I was put off at the thought of a new account at first, but it isn't that bad. Just do a few seasonal events and you'll level up quickly, and a lot of the cars are from Arcade mode anyway.

 

[Vagabond]

Truly think you guys are missing out on some great racers with this "tag" rule.

Its they that are missing out on WRS. The registry already has great racers.... It could have more if they'd get over their beef with needing a GTP tag.

 

[OwensRacing]

Its they that are missing out on WRS. The registry already has great racers.... It could have more if they'd get over their beef with needing a GTP tag.

Got an idea you set me up a GTP_OwensRacing1 account and send me the password once you got like 10million and all the good cars in there I'll not miss.

Thanks. Since this isn't a big deal or hassle for you guys. Then help us out that don't have time.

I get on my PS3 to practice for league races. I don't do seasonals, I don't do any offline racing. Only league racing. My time don't allow for much else nor do I enjoy much else. However I have kicked the WRS idea around.

Appreciate it and just PM me with password to that GTP name.



You guys also consider how many people buy GT5. Get stuck or want more and go to the web to find more. End up here and see the WRS and then realize they have to start over. Not very inviting or welcoming to new users.


However:
It's your guys gig. You make the rules.

But:
We do have the right to point out what we thinks is unfair and give an opinion



GT5 if you make a clan tag of sorts like COD this crap wouldn't be discussed.


Whatever happen to the "Drivers Club" that rumors flew about. Anyway. Best of luck and I'm done razzing you guys over the name game.

 

[EDK]

I don't want more than one PSN account, period. You can think that's silly, or whatever, but I don't want to do it.

To put it back to you, why is it that you don't want more than one PSN account?

"I don't want one" is not a reason.

Irony. I'll dig up the replay from the ORCA vs WRS where I can show many WRS guys over running track boundaries. Not just one here or there repeated.

GTP tags means clean my rear!

I'm super clean like Mr Clean and I don't run that tag. However a few and only time I raced with WRS there were GTP tags abusing boundaries.

Most of the GTP tags were great and clean. However a select few kinda make your statement false. Which really mutes the point being made.

Again it's an elitist thing. One in which I don't belong. I am not an elitist or think a name makes me something.

I have no issues getting video. If I do you and show you then you guys have to drop the childish club name thing.

Truly think you guys are missing out on some great racers with this "tag" rule.

Unlike the series you run in, we actually try to establish and maintain a standard of racing.

Does that mean everyone will be perfect? No.

But at the same time, I didn't have anything from anyone in my inbox asking about people breaking boundary rules.

 

[WRP001]

Unlike the series you run in, we actually try to establish and maintain a standard of racing.

I'm sure EDK is as 'steamed' with Owens comments as I am. I run in both the WRS and the ORCA series and Brandon (admin for ORCA) sets good rules and standards (including the OLR) which is followed most of the time by the majority of the drivers. Just like any other series drivers there sometimes 'forget' track boundaries in the heat of battle or accidentally overrun a corner due to driver error. That doesn't mean they are dirty or don't have standards.

I assume Owens would say ORCA drivers are clean and of high quality and standards without intending to mean that every driver is clean every race in every corner. For some reason he's taking the GTP tag requirement personally which is his problem, but not something shared by the other drivers in the ORCA series -- obvious since several of them have already created GTP tags and joined the WRS since we announced/ran the special event. I think those are the guys that represent what the ORCA series stand for and Owens is just spewing off on his own.

 

[EDK]

I'm sure EDK is as 'steamed' with Owens comments as I am. I run in both the WRS and the ORCA series and Brandon (admin for ORCA) sets good rules and standards which are followed most of the time by the majority of the drivers. Just like any other series drivers there sometimes 'forget' track boundaries or accidentally overrun a corner in the heat of battle. That doesn't mean they are dirty either.

I assume Owens would say ORCA drivers are clean without intending to mean that every driver is clean every race in every corner. For some reason he's taking the GTP tag requirement personally which is his problem, but not something shared by the other drivers in the ORCA series -- several of which have joined the WRS since we announced/ran the special event. I think those are the guys that represent what the ORCA series stand for and Owens is just spewing off on his own.

To clarify my comments -

If people have an issue with a driver, or a particular incident, we'll investigate, and make a ruling.

We don't ask people to take it up in PM, and fix it on their own.

But to make outright accusations without creating awareness is a big problem.

 

[huskeR32]

To put it back to you, why is it that you don't want more than one PSN account?

"I don't want one" is not a reason.

Because I like to keep things tidy and unified, maybe it's just a weird trait that I have.

Further, if I'm going to invest my time in a video game, I want all of my time to benefit one effort. Time spent earning money for my GTP account could be spent earning more money for my normal account with more than a year of work put into it.

Again, if that means I can't participate, then so be it. I was just asking for the reason behind the rule.

 

[EDK]

Because I like to keep things tidy and unified, maybe it's just a weird trait that I have.

Further, if I'm going to invest my time in a video game, I want all of my time to benefit one effort. Time spent earning money for my GTP account could be spent earning more money for my normal account with more than a year of work put into it.

Again, if that means I can't participate, then so be it. I was just asking for the reason behind the rule.

Fair enough.

I'm closing this thread and putting it in the archive.

OwensRacing already has a PM from me, he can take his issues up on that side.