Ratios
- Thread starter Motorer1
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- GTP_Pergatory
The graph's vertical (up/down) is the RPM of the engine, and the horizontal is the speed of the car. So the higher the line for each gear starts, the higher your RPM will be as you enter that gear. The farther to the right the lines stretch, the faster you will be able to go in that gear and the less torque you will have in that gear.
Raising the ratio for a certain gear makes the gear shorter. In other words, the RPM's will be higher for a certain speed (providing more power), and the top speed of that gear will be lower.
Raising the ratio for a certain gear makes the gear shorter. In other words, the RPM's will be higher for a certain speed (providing more power), and the top speed of that gear will be lower.
- 767
Shorter ratios (sporty) is good for acceleration but not great top speed. Longer gear ratios (wide) good for top speed but not great acceleration.
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Sheron...you are a wealth of knowledge and all...but how come you're never really in just the "conversation" sections of the drift forum......You're usually just posting in the settings depot...or threads about settings?....Normal moderated chit-chat juss don't tickle your fancy?
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mmm.. It's just because I'm not at home (I'm using University computers) and I have little spare time, so I can't spend hours here. And untill february I'll be really busy with University (I chose too much subjets).
And in other threads, if I don't post it's because someone has said the same opinion I have or I don't feel like posting because I don't mess with the theme of the thread (mess isn't the right word, but my english isn't as good as my knowledge of GT3)
That's all.
And in other threads, if I don't post it's because someone has said the same opinion I have or I don't feel like posting because I don't mess with the theme of the thread (mess isn't the right word, but my english isn't as good as my knowledge of GT3)
That's all.
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- GTP_Pergatory
I agree 100%, good advice. I tend to have 1-4 very short compared to the normal setup that it gives you with the auto-setting, with 5th rarely being drifted in, and 6th basically being a straight-away gear. I like having the entry RPM similar in all the gears, as oppose to the progressively higher RPM given by the auto-setting. Actually if you listen to the F1 cars I've noticed they are the same, they enter each gear at exactly the same RPM to stay perfectly within the powerband.
- 1,079
If you want to grip fast and take off fast, then a short gear ratio would be a good thing, but if you want to drift and be able to control the throttle by not making the RPM hitting Redline fast, then you should make you gear ratio longer. Plus it depends on the HP you have also. Well thats my opinion.
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Grip= Make it so you hit 6th gear redline at the longest straight on the course. Then say, if you hit a tigh corner, on the same course in 2nd, and you want to accel fast out of the corner, make your 2nd gear shorter, and your 3rd gear mid ranger. I'm not sure about drifting, I mostly use short ratios,
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What if you make the 6th gear short. Does it get alot of torque creating top speed? I never really understood GT3's transmission.
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Would this crete alot of torque for speed or a would a wide 6th gear do it?
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Would this crete alot of torque for speed or a would a wide 6th gear do it?
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That didn't work good. and I don't understand how to insert a pic. I wish we could just copy and paste... I'll try this again if it doesn't work...sue me
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- GTP_Pergatory
Originally posted by 1989therat
What if you make the 6th gear short. Does it get alot of torque creating top speed? I never really understood GT3's transmission.
No, changing the gear ratio changes the torque you are putting to the ground. Top speed is determined by horsepower, and torque is actually not a factor in this equation. So while it seems like it should increase your top speed, it won't, it just changes how fast you get there. Reasons to make 6th gear shorter are:
A) Your powerband extends beyond your top speed, no reason to have all that unused powerband in 6th gear, might as well get that extra torque to the ground instead.
B) You want to enter 6th at a higher RPM (you could also make 5th gear longer instead).
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- GTP_DelphicR
- Esoterik1
This is one of the most informative threads I've read in a while. Keep up the good work, Pergatory.
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HP Sells Cars - Torque Wins Races
HP is how hard you hit the wall...
Torque is how much of the wall you take with you...
- 1,093
- GTP_Pergatory
Hahah, yeah you guys have the idea. Torque is a measurement of force (sort of), not of actual power. Power = Work/Time. Work = Force x Distance, and Force is similar to what torque is. It's literally the amount of force your engine generates to push the car forward. That's why if you look at a torque curve, it's often much more flat than a horsepower curve. Horsepower goes up as the amount of time reduces (or as the RPM goes up).
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hey thats pretty cool, maybe you should PM me some of your gear ratio, i wanna try it and see if its fast, because right now, i really need new gear ratio set ups. Thanks
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It's easy:
1.- Move the final to the top right.
2.- Move the Auto Setting to the top right and then to the top left.
3.- Return the final to the previous position.
This will make the first gear larger and the 4 firsts close.
Then move the first to make it as large as possible, and the move the others acording to the speeds I posted above.
1.- Move the final to the top right.
2.- Move the Auto Setting to the top right and then to the top left.
3.- Return the final to the previous position.
This will make the first gear larger and the 4 firsts close.
Then move the first to make it as large as possible, and the move the others acording to the speeds I posted above.
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Tell that to senna ...And all those VW rabbits you see in vid crash clips take a whole section of the wall with them when they go flying.
And if HP sells cars and torque wins races, how does the MRS win the GT300 class? And how did NSX's win the Gt500 class back when..
- 1,093
- GTP_Pergatory
You seem to almost have a point but I just can't seem to find it. The reasons those cars won has nothing to do with the power they have. The main advantage they both have is the moment of inertia, since they are both mid-engine cars. As far as Rabbits hitting the wall, what car doesn't do damage when it hits the wall? Damage is not done by horsepower or torque, it's done by inertia which is a product of weight and speed, not of the power that's going to the wheels. If you're saying that horsepower wins races, you've failed to prove your point. If you're saying that neither horsepower NOR torque wins races, then I think most everyone here would agree =)
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if im not mistaken, all the gt300 cars have no more or around 300hp and the same with the gt500 class... all the cars are equal
