Real Evo IX gsr gear ratios !!

[Chaddystyle]

hi everyone , this is my first ever post and hopefully this will help a few . I own an evo 9 gsr tuned to 450bhp . Thought i'd try entering the real gear ratios from the handbook into gt5 ( i'm going to Nurburgring in July and wanted to get car as near to real life as possible to practice and before anyone says i know its not as real as being there ! ) . After entering them i instantly took 9 seconds off my best lap time !!
The gear ratios are :

1st - 2.090
2nd - 1.944
3rd - 1.434
4th - 1.100
5th - 0.868
6th - 0.693

Maybe someone could start a thread with more info straight from their hand books ?
if anyone wants more info on the evo 9 just ask , like i said i'm new to gtplanet but willing to help anyone and make some new racing friends ( friends list has 3 people in at moment lol )

 

[CyKosis1973]

👍👍 Nice idea...

{Cy}

 

[Drewsifer3x]

Awesome! Been thinking a lot about real world great radios and hp myself lately. Welcome to gtp!

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I think you mean 3.090 on 1st gear.

 

[Chaddystyle]

thanks for the welcome and positive feedback . just checked the gear ratios incase of a mistype.

1st gear should be 2.909 .

oops sorry . dont suppose anyone knows why i can't lower the car more than -5 on front and back ? . i've got fully custom suspension and most the tunes on here suggest -10 to -20 ?

 

[Adrenaline]

Race Mod vs Stock Suspension limits? (This is just a guess)

 

[Chaddystyle]

i'll buy another evo and try it with the rm . didnt really want all the bodykit and stuff on the car as i like the look of the stock . just see,s strange you can't lower more than 5mm which in real world terms isn't much .
thanks for the suggestion though .

 

[Drewsifer3x]

Did you buy the full custom suspension? Our just the height adj. Sport?

 

[Chaddystyle]

Drewsifer your're a genius and i'm an idiot lol i only had the sport springs . Like i said i was trying to get the car as close to mine in real world terms and when i first modded the car only had tein springs in real world . since then i've upgraded the real car to full coilovers but never upgraded in game . stupid mistake on my part but sometimes the simple solutions are overlooked ( my excuse anyway ) .
thanks for solving a problem which was eating away at me.
nice to find a forum where people are helpful and not always putting others down

 

[CyKosis1973]

Sounds good Chaddy, I'd lke to see the finished article I'm very keen on real world adaptions for this game...

{Cy}

 

[No_OBsT33R]

Glad to hear your getting good results out of the stock gear ratios. If you ever want any of the stock ratios for any of the cars in GT5 simply install a custom tranny (of any kind) then on the Tuning menu re-install the default tranny, the little selector to open the tuning menu (even though default gears can't be tuned) will be available, select it and it will reveal the default gearing for the car.

More often then not they mirror the IRL gearing, except a few times 1st gear will be optimized for the game (& reverse gear also) other then that they are pretty spot on. They are not often the best gears for the car while good ones none the less. Unfortunately The TS tuner is a BS option but tuning an optimized gear set is always a good thing.

I've put together a gear set for the RM Evo IX, it should net you a higher top speed and get there a bit quicker. You will have to adjust your FD to match your Cars ability. Simply lower the FD until your hitting your maximum speed at red-line. You can at this point adjust your 6th gear for the Draft, etc. You can also adjust first gear for out the gate performance.

You have to reset the Gearbox

Adjust the Top Speed Tuner to 174

Input the individual Gears

2.730
1.768
1.335
1.055
0.873
0.730

Last up Final Drive Gear. I like a 4.100 FD with the 4G63 to start, and adjust to your engines ability.

Try these out, let me know how they work for yah.

I'll add one for a non RM Evo shortly.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Simply lower the FD until your hitting your maximum speed at red-line.

I laughed.

Yes, gear a 440 6-pack Cuda as modeled in game like that and see how fast it goes. Oh and make sure to shift at redline too.



Generally speaking it's best to reach maximum speed with the revs smack on peak power... It'll generally give room before the limiter for drafting and your top speed will be as high as possible for the power and aerodynamics of your car.

 

[No_OBsT33R]

I laughed.

Yes, gear a 440 6-pack Cuda as modeled in game like that and see how fast it goes. Oh and make sure to shift at redline too.

Generally speaking it's best to reach maximum speed with the revs smack on peak power... It'll generally give room before the limiter for drafting and your top speed will be as high as possible for the power and aerodynamics of your car.

Not stock red line but new one after modifying the car (you can see it in the HUD it's usually pretty deep into the stock red-line visible on the Premium cars when you look at the dash) doing so usually gives a few MPH for a draft until you hit the rev limiter, one can adjust 6th gear at this point to accommodate for the draft if need be for the race your in, or leave it as so for tracks you might use it like the long straight on the Nurb.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Not stock red line but new one after modifying the car (you can see it in the HUD it's usually pretty deep into the stock red-line visible on the Premium cars when you look at the dash) doing so usually gives a few MPH for a draft until you hit the rev limiter, one can adjust 6th gear at this point to accommodate for the draft.

That redline (and the rev limiter) is still the same distance past peak power as with a stock engine.

So on those cars it's still the same dropoff as before. Hawkeye Impreza is very guilty of the power-peaks-2500rpm-before-redline-and-drops-off-a-cliff for example, it gets better with both low and high RPM turbos but is never really solved via tuning. My personal Hawkeye when I initially built it ran max length gearing (261mph rated top speed) and was if anything still slightly short in 6th gear even with the high RPM turbo. True top speed? 183mph or so.... Even though it wouldn't even be hitting the limiter in 5th it still went faster in 6th.

 

[No_OBsT33R]

For the non RMed Evo try out

2.909
1.829
1.381
1.091
0.903
0.760

Same 4.100 FD starting point.

For max speed around 450hp around 4.000 should be alright. My Non RM Evo's still breaking in and at 445hp on a High RPM Turbo currently & hits 187-188mph with these gears and a 4.000 FD on a DEFAULT set up, meaning no gains from height drop etc. It will get there quicker then most gear sets compared to. Dropped a lil lower to 3.990 and she hits 189mph on the SSR7 still waiting to be broken in. Going to let B-Spec Bob run a few laps to break her in.

So I've dropped .11 from 4.100 and I'm hitting 189mph so far pre breaking in the engine.

After break in Hp jumped to 459hp Top Speed didn't move much topping off at 190mph with the same 3.990 FD.

I ran the Emperors Gears (posted gears are unobtainable as explained, but I got them anyways) and Maxed out at 188mph after break-in in the SSR7 Tunnel. Not a large gap in Top Speed but quite a difference getting there. I don't know what RJ's talking about with his laughter, he must not drive his "Emperor" very often or he would know what RPM it reaches top speed, because it's no where near peak Hp. Laughter is right, but it's me laughing.

So it appears that 3.990 is a good FD for the gear set for roughly 445-460 Hp maxing out around 190mph if your running a H/RPM Turbo.

While I was breaking in my 4G63 (took a while) I did a little bit of suspension tuning (went default for TS test still) I've got her balanced quite nice on these SS Tires.

Next step 86 AYC Strictly Tarmac Stiff Ride Baby.

I'll have a Evo Tune posted later tonight, if your Driving an Evo I'd like to know what you think.

Cheers, hope the gearbox is useful.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I ran the Emperors Gears (posted gears are unobtainable as explained, but I got them anyways) and Maxed out at 188mph after break-in in the SSR7 Tunnel. Not a large gap in Top Speed but quite a difference getting there. I don't know what RJ's talking about with his laughter, he must not drive his "Emperor" very often or he would know what RPM it reaches top speed, because it's no where near peak Hp. Laughter is right, but it's me laughing.

Said car's gearing wasn't done by me, nor was the rest of the car... In fact they're the exact opposite of my normal method (Roj did it on purpose).

So it appears that 3.990 is a good FD for the gear set for roughly 445-460 Hp maxing out around 190mph if your running a H/RPM Turbo.

Good.

Bet it'd do 192 with 6th at 1.182 and a final of 2.500 though.

This all has also demonstrated the lower FD = faster acceleration and top speed with same overall ratios theory... There's actually near as no difference between your 6th overall and Roj's 6th overall but the final drive is widely different. Thanks for proving me right on something you argued to death before though. 👍

Edit: Oh and I love how you always say something then come back and change the entire post.

 

[No_OBsT33R]

This all has also demonstrated the lower FD = faster acceleration and top speed with same overall ratios theory... There's actually near as no difference between your 6th overall and Roj's 6th overall but the final drive is widely different. Thanks for proving me right on something you argued to death before though. 👍.

Too bad it's just your lack of understanding gear ratios that has you all confused thinking it proves you right about anything, it actually proves me right IF you analyze the gears correctly. The emperor could get the same TS with a better tuned 6th gear. What's more striking than the measly 2mph faster Top Speed I'm getting, is the rate that "The R-Evolution IX" gets there with these Gears at the same Spec as the emperor. The spacing of "The R-Evolution IX" gears is optimized and able to be catered to any Track. Real Tuning, no cheesy tweaks.

I find it funny your so quick to critique other Garages work and overlook whats coming out of your own shop. I literally Clock over 1.8 seconds faster at the same spec on Nurb GP/F only difference being the AYC vs LSD. It's closer to 1.5 seconds when I use my LSD on the emperor. I give the emperor everything I have, if anything trying harder with it.

I like how you move the nit picking over here, to derail somebodies thread with our beef.

Keep it PM or at your Shop if you want to keep hashing it out. Or have the Emperor take on "The R-Evolution IX" at my Shop.... I've got the "Nightmare" getting ready for release when it's over.

 

[badboy_etc]

I noticed something a long time ago and it is useful. When you buy a custom gear ratio transmission, you will notice the stock transmission there as well in your settings menu. Make the stock one current (click the box) and click where you would if you were the change the gear ratios (like in custom trans). You will then notice all the stock gear ratios. It beats going to your computer every time to check for them, which saves time and frustration because some are just not available yet. I know

 

[Ballfar]

So is it better to adjust gears for peak HP and shift there or set it up for redline?

 

[Rotary Junkie]

So is it better to adjust gears for peak HP and shift there or set it up for redline?

Always depends on the car and the shape of the powerband.

If the car carries a large amount of its peak power right to redline you want to set the gears so that when you shift at redline (or even right before the rev limiter) you wind up about 500rpm before peak power.

The easiest way to explain it is that the best gear ratios will keep the car as close to peak power as possible at all times. So technically the ultimate transmission for acceleration purposes is used by the Toyota Prius.