Real Life Drift Projects

[HE1RO]

I have a White 2000 Mustang V6 getting prepped to have a Ford Racing LSD installed so i can have power to BOTH WHEELS

Im also intent in having Tokico shocks and H&R Super Sport lowering springs put on. Does anyone know how these perform? I assume since they are lowering springs they would be stiffer than stock springs, and Tokico shocks should be good, my friend has some older ones installed and his 86 is basically a 1/2" from being slammed and they work like a charm.

Any suggestions on where i could buy some reasonably priced rims in the size range of 16"-17" that are known to fit Ford Mustangs?

I have an intake on it already, but i am kinda lost as to what else i can buy besides an exhaust and chip tuner (those are expensive...).
I will not do a swap for a bigger engine, its still a daily driver and i need somewhat of a gas economic car.

And last thing, transmission. Would it be worth diving into it now when im starting out, or just wait on it until i get better? What should be the first thing though that i should buy for it when i do progress skill?

Thank you to those who have posted on this thread to help others and myself I will have pics up when i get my hood and trunk put back on. lol

 

[Stavingo]

Probably better in the automobiles section or whatnot.

 

[Knight Spirit]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=241
modsgonnalockthisnow?

 

[pk_090]

Stronger organic clutch and maybe a lightened flywheel (see if Fidanza make them not too sure). I get the feeling that with mustangs forget the shocks and springs and go the whole hog and buy some coilovers will be worth the money 100% 👍
By reading the above post kinda makes me think how a mustang can be classed as an economical daily driver.....kinda makes economical daily driver look......well err......like a prius..

 

[RufusGonePunk]

Judging by your questions you'd be better off going to a Mustang owners club forum haha.

 

[Bobalob]

just shows how many people can relate to real vs virtual.

 

[Perfect Balance]

I think you need to learn more about cars and driving before diving into a sport that is particularly demanding that you have mechanical experience and a decent understanding of driving physics.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I think you need to learn more about cars and driving before diving into a sport that is particularly demanding that you have mechanical experience and a decent understanding of driving physics.

This.

In other news I wouldn't consider making a drift project out of a V6 Mustang. The 3.8 isn't a bad motor but it's not exactly good at making power until you throw boost at it... Which is expensive to the point of it being cheaper to swap a V8 in.

In fact I'd say that's the way to go. Pick up a '93-8 Lincoln Mark VIII with a bad trans or bad airbags for $500, strip it, sell the parts, scrap the shell, use the motor. Instant near-as-makes-no-difference 300hp, block that can hold 2000, etc.

 

[SKOT_FREE]

I suggest if you are a beginning Drifter to forgo getting a lot of Mods to your car before really learning the basics. LSD is good idea, maybe a Brake upgrade, but springs aren't necessary yet IMO. As to what works well and what doesn't, I suggest visiting some Drift related forums for others who may have used the same products and you can also find great deals.

 

[Azuremen]

Learn to drive, then mod. And I'll echo the sentiments on the V6.

That, and change your font size and style, please. Bigger isn't better.

 

[HE1RO]

I am on several mustang forums but there not as busy as GTP is, so i get more feedback if i post here. I haven't joined a drift forum yet though. And www.americanmuscle.com has the best service and the best prices for mustang parts, that i know of.

Stock V6's ride like a truck... and just upgrading my suspension will make it look better in general, i could just cut my springs, but thats ghetto lol

@SKOT_FREE brakes are a good idea, i will probably just get the more performance oriented pads like EBC, a full brake kit costs more than a suspension kit lol

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Stock V6's ride like a truck... and just upgrading my suspension will make it look better in general, i could just cut my springs, but thats ghetto lol

Stock V6s ride like a truck eh?

You'll hate how it'll feel with proper suspension then.

Still don't think a V6 is a good choice to even try to make anything resembling a drift car out of. They're pretty much gutless for what the car weighs and I doubt their ability to get sideways on dry pavement without a clutch kick.

 

[HE1RO]

Stock V6s ride like a truck eh?

You'll hate how it'll feel with proper suspension then.

Still don't think a V6 is a good choice to even try to make anything resembling a drift car out of. They're pretty much gutless for what the car weighs and I doubt their ability to get sideways on dry pavement without a clutch kick.

As in the height at which they ride...

Just installed a CAI, it already sounds more like an engine now.
Next is lsd, brakes, and clutch. Last will be suspension, then pretty much anything after that will be cosmetic... unless someone just gives me a turbo kit with a coupon for one free install and tune. lol

 

[Azuremen]

Cold Air Intake and an LSD install are kind of worlds apart in cost and time. Just saying.

I'd honestly say sell that Mustang and buy and older BMW or 240SX if you want to drift. Or an old 5.0 Foxbody.

 

[HE1RO]

never said i was installing the lsd myself lol

 

[Azuremen]

never said i was installing the lsd myself lol

Well, there goes at least a thousand dollars I'd say.

Honestly, what driving experience do you have to merit these investments? I've drifted open diff MR2s and so on before at events; I'd suggest you learn proper entry methods and throttle control before investing too much.

 

[HE1RO]

Well, there goes at least a thousand dollars I'd say.

Honestly, what driving experience do you have to merit these investments? I've drifted open diff MR2s and so on before at events; I'd suggest you learn proper entry methods and throttle control before investing too much.

$1000, where do you buy your parts at? Either that or your mechanic is bending you over haha XD

 

[Azuremen]

$1000, where do you buy your parts at? Either that or your mechanic is bending you over haha XD

Right, my mechanic who is myself

 

[Perfect Balance]

$1000, where do you buy your parts at? Either that or your mechanic is bending you over haha XD

My LSD was just over $900, and my buddies for his Miata was about $860 or so. Oh, and we got good deals on them, and installed them ourselves.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

My LSD was just over $900, and my buddies for his Miata was about $860 or so. Oh, and we got good deals on them, and installed them ourselves.

Something interesting here...

OP has a V6 Mustang. Which means it has a Ford 7.5" rear differential. Not exactly the pinnacle of strength and it restricts him to this for diff choices. If it was a V8 it'd have an 8.8" which everybloodything has and everyone makes parts for any and every use for.

Guess what I'm saying is that it's pretty much impossible to find a way to spend a grand on a 7.5" diff.

 

[HE1RO]

dang, i would hate to have a Miata.

i dont have to post the link anymore, someone has done it for me.

 

[Perfect Balance]

Something interesting here...

OP has a V6 Mustang. Which means it has a Ford 7.5" rear differential. Not exactly the pinnacle of strength and it restricts him to this for diff choices. If it was a V8 it'd have an 8.8" which everybloodything has and everyone makes parts for any and every use for.

That looks like an open diff with a spring that I guess makes drag on the two rotating parts? Or it appears one of those gears is connected to some clutch packs, and therefore it's some kind of clutch lsd?

No offense, but that looks like a pos. I don't even want to know what would happen to that thing in a drifting situation. It looks like one side of that thing is always locked, and 1 side is allowed to slip?


Does that even work?

 

[Rotary Junkie]

That looks like an open diff with a spring that I guess makes drag on the two rotating parts?


Does that even work?

There's a clutch pack on one side. Not both.

They work until they don't... Which in a car that gets beaten on comes rather regularly. It's pretty much the same diff that'll be going into my car once we ever get around to the thing (cept I've got an 8.8 IRS so lots more install fun).

Edit: @HE1RO: You'd love to have a Miata and you know it. It'd at least be more fun to drive.

 

[Azuremen]

dang, i would hate to have a Miata.

i dont have to post the link anymore, someone has done it for me.

The LSD for my MR-S, which is TRD but built by Quaife (from my understanding) was about $750.

However, it is certainly better built than that... excuse of an LSD.

If you haven't noticed, the general consensus is get a different car if you want to drift. A cheaper one. Because you will crash it into things.

 

[HE1RO]

If that was the case then i would have a different car to begin with because in Oklahoma anything imported is automatically assumed its worth over 10g's

point is, imports are hard to find in Oklahoma, and when one worth buying that hasn't sat in field for years goes up for sell, they want want wayy to much for it. Now if you want a hill billy truck or a tractor, then i know tons of places that would suit your interest.

 

[Perfect Balance]

There's a clutch pack on one side. Not both.

They work until they don't... Which in a car that gets beaten on comes rather regularly.

Mine has a rod in the middle that applies forces to both sides depending on the torque applied, making it lock harder or softer. On it clutch kick, it locks very hard and quick, but light throttle applications let it slip more.

That one appears to have a set spring tension. If it's stiff enough to work well for drifting, it would probably be more or less a welded diff, and if it's soft enough to let it slip during daily driving, it probably isn't going to work well while drifting, much like a worn, typical design clutch pack lsd.

In any case, if he's going strictly for drifting, he might as well weld the stock unit, since that's going to be the most predictable anyway.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

in Oklahoma anything imported is automatically assumed its worth over 10g's

O Rly?

 

[Azuremen]

If that was the case then i would have a different car to begin with because in Oklahoma anything imported is automatically assumed its worth over 10g's

1997 M3, $7500 which will, in every way, crap on your Mustang.

Oh wait, here we go

240SX blown motor, $600

Go grab a KA24DE out of a junkyard (couple hundred dollars) and whatever else. Then you have a car you can learn to drift in for cheap, and not give a damn when you do crash into that pole.

Or you know, get a Foxbody. Just saying. I hear those are cheap and easy to mod.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

point is, imports are hard to find in Oklahoma, and when one worth buying that hasn't sat in field for years goes up for sell, they want want wayy to much for it. Now if you want a hill billy truck or a tractor, then i know tons of places that would suit your interest.

They're really not particularly difficult to find.

Hell, I live in Michigan and I can find pretty much any import I feel like as long as they made more than about 20 per state in a 30 second Craigslist search. We aren't particularly import friendly.

Oh and once again... Seconding the Fox idea. They're cheap, common no matter where you are, and no matter how much you spend on suspension bits you can transfer whatever survives a wreck to any 1979-2004 Mustang.

 

[CMvan46]

I've driven a V6 Mustang and V8 and I also thrid or fourth or fifth the idea that the V6 you've got is really NOT going to do it for you. You'll have a rediculously underpowered car for drifting. If your trying to "mod" it for drifting it can't really be this great daily driver your wanting at the same time. Save your money and try one of these suggestions. These guys know a lot more than I do about these cars but I really do agree your throwing your money into a black hole and are going to very much regret it in the end.

Also I'd be careful commenting on how you would hate to have another guys car. Kind of like making fun of a guys girlfriend when you don't have one yourself. Atleast he's got something that will drift.