REAL RACING SIM - New Beetle, mm-R @ Laguna Seca, SUN Sep 16, 9PM EDT

[alefin]

Real Racing Sim Sunday Endurance Race

New Beetle Cup Car vs mm-R Cup Car
@
Laguna Seca
in

Thanks to asdfg11 for the countdown timer!
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General Info About Races: Our goal is to provide a racing simulation experience for everyone. Real off-road grip, weak slipstream, tire wear on, and yes, heavy damage! ABS is optional.

The potential for damage encourages respect and sportsmanship among everyone, making penalties unnecessary -- GT5's penalty system is easily gamed, often penalizes the victim and does nothing to further the "racing simulation".

The races are usually long enough to require at least one pit for tires and/or gas depending on the car. We also enjoy racing real life cars, and offer a wide range of racing experiences, from VW Buses to F1's, some tuned, some untuned, you name it. Feel free to check out the Facebook page ( http://tinyurl.com/GT5-LPP ) to post race suggestions and say hello!

Date & Time:

Sunday September 16, 9:00 PM EDT
Sunday September 16, 6:00 PM PDT
Monday September 17, 1:00 AM GMT
Time zone converter here​

Host: Private lounge of "alefin"

Race Length: 80 minutes (not including qualifying)

Requirements: Fun, clean and fair drivers

Course:

Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca Raceway
Length: 2.24 mi, Longest Straight: 0.17 mi, Elevation Change: 180.4 ft, Corners: 15

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Room & Car Regulations:

Volkswagen New Beetle Cup Car '00 (Standard)

Oil change allowed
Engine rebuild allowed
No other horsepower mods allowed
207 horsepower max
Approximately 209 ft-lb torque
Racing hard tires max


Nissan mm-R Cup Car '01 (Standard)

No turbo kits allowed
All other horsepower mods allowed
187 horsepower max
Approximately 143 ft-lb torque
720 kilogram minimum weight
Racing hard tires max
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• Heavy damage
• No penalties
• Weak slipstream
• Tire wear/Fuel consumption on
• Real grip reduction on wet/edge
• Visual damage on
• ABS available
• All other assists off

Qualifying & Rolling Starts:

• Qualifying begins promptly at 9:00 PM Eastern (refer to the countdown timer above if you're not on the east coast) and will last 15 to 30 minutes.
• When you have a time you like, pull over to a secluded spot or sit in the pits, while we record your time. If you are unable to complete a qualifying lap in the time allotted, or if you leave or exit the track before we record your lap time, you will start at the back of the pack.
• If lap times are not registering properly on my screen, I will tell everyone to keep track of their lap times.
• At the start of the race, drivers will manually line up in formation for a ROLLING START. When the race timer counts down, and the race START message appears, DO NOT MOVE. Stay in the starting grid until the starting line up is called out.
• We will manually line up in qualifying order. Once everyone is in the correct order, the driver in the pole position will set a pace not exceeding 60 MPH / 96 KPH, and begin the race by breaking that pace. Please do not overtake other drivers until the pole/pace car breaks pace and begins accelerating to race speed. Then, THE RACE IS ON.
• This is NOT a pace lap. The pole/pace car should start the race as close to the first corner as possible, without compromising the safety of other cars.

Full Course Caution Until Clean Start:

• This policy applies until we complete one continuous clean lap or two continuous minutes of clean racing on longer courses, without multi-car incidents. Cautions will only be available at the beginning of the race. We will repeat it as many times as necessary to get an incident free start.
• If there are any multi-car incidents, where any driver is knocked well off the track by another driver, we will call a FULL COURSE CAUTION. The policy does not apply to individual drivers losing control, even if an offending driver has minor contact with other drivers who continue racing.
• Once a caution is issued, please do not overtake any drivers, even if you are heading to the pits.
• All drivers (not in the pits) will form-up for another Manual Rolling Start behind the current race leader, who will maintain pace speed until everyone is in formation again, and restart according the approach used at the beginning of the race.

Prizes:

• First place (Level 12 car ticket, 5 car paints)
• Second place (5 car paints)

Other Notes: The GTPlanet Online Racing Rules & Guidelines applies with some changes/additions.

1. Bump drafting is allowed where it makes sense.
2. Keep racing on the track, regardless of incident, unless cars behind you are approaching. Time, depending on severity of incident, will be added to your final race time once complaints are filed and replays checked. If you decide to allow the other driver(s) to pass because of a collision, be absolutely sure that you will not be in the way of other drivers. When in doubt, keep racing.
3. Drivers that are to be lapped are under no obligations to move out of the way, as long as they are not intentionally blocking. Most tracks have many sections to overtake. If you're faster, you'll find a way to pass.
4. There will be no race restarts for people that disconnect, unless something extreme happens like half the room disconnects at the same time. Common sense will dictate what's appropriate. People that disconnect will still earn points (where applicable) depending on when they disconnected.
5. Anyone found violating the car regulations will be harshly penalized, i.e. dropped into last place in the race results. "I didn't know" is not a valid reason.
6. Track boundaries are generally the same as those enforced by the GT5 penalty system and as defined by section 16: Offline Racing in the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules linked above. See the illustration below. Occasional unintended incursions will be tolerated, particularly if you visibly attempt to correct a bad line by braking, etc. or you have lost control of your vehicle. Patterns of abuse will not be tolerated, and complaints will be investigated as noted in #2 above.

How to Sign-Up: Just post > GTPlanet username (Playstation Network username)

Race Officials: alefin or kirtrkeks, or anyone designated by them

Current GTPlanet Participants:
alefin

** This race is open to all Real Racing Sim regulars and past participants on a first come basis. New sign-ups are welcome, but signing-up on this thread does not guarantee entry if the room fills up. Please be on time. **



Thanks for reading, everyone!

 

[alefin]

I'll be checking both car regulations for this race. I'll ask mm-R drivers to enter, and then New Beetle drivers. Please do not access your garage/tune menu after your car passes scrutiny.

This could be a one make race, or a two class race. Either way, have fun with it

Also, this hasn't really been applicable in most of our races, but anyone found violating the car regulations will be harshly penalized, i.e. dropped into last place in the race results. "I didn't know" is not a valid reason.

 

[S2]

If I can make it, I'll be running a VW.

Normally I pick the lighter car when given two options, but I don't really like the Nissan MM-r all that much.

 

[alefin]

I'll probably use the Nissan hehe

 

[freshseth83]

These are interesting choices. The Nissan is very light, but the Beetle may be faster. I think the Nissan will get better tire life. I will join this if I can race next Sunday. (I might be watching the WEC race in Brazil).

 

[kirktreks]

I do not see any weight spec on the VW.

 

[alefin]

Yeah, no weight restriction on VW, that's intentional

 

[alefin]

After some feedback and further testing, it was brought to my attention that the gap between the two cars is much greater than I initially thought.

So the Nissan mm-R regulations were changed. Please take note of the edited opening post. Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[freshseth83]

So my lap times in the Nissan are in the 1:39's. That's just from some quick practice though.

 

[alefin]

Yeah, that sounds about right.

 

[freshseth83]

Did this go on today? If so I missed it. I wanted to take part, but I went to the park with my kid, he needed some outside time.

 

[alefin]

Yeah it happened. Results later today.

I ended up making the mm-R too fast, so there'll probably be a Beetle race in the future.

 

[alefin]

Sunday 48 Lap Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca Results

Replay for importing into GT5​

Qualifying Results
1) elmo_too, 1:37.383
2) BRADKINDER, 1:38.006
3) FuturesPassed, 1:39.299
4) CommonDeer, 1:39.504
5) alefin, 1:42.175
6) kirktreks, 1:43.307

 

[freshseth83]

That's what I suspected. I was able to get to the 1:36's with low fuel in it.

 

[alefin]

You would have been good competition for elmo. No one could touch him heh.