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- JoeOfTheFire
Yeah, I'd been resetting my router and clearing the GT5 cache before, but it wasn't doing anything. I'd also forwarded the ports as well. I reset it once more tonight and it worked for us.
I believe Knelly said he'd update with the numbers we decided on for the transmission and BHP, so I'll let him do so. (We had the weight at 690kg). Remember to set the max speed before the final gear when you apply the settings he gives you.
I believe Knelly said he'd update with the numbers we decided on for the transmission and BHP, so I'll let him do so. (We had the weight at 690kg). Remember to set the max speed before the final gear when you apply the settings he gives you.
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- Knelly
Have all the Daytona stuff. As for Indy I need someone to give me the final gear settings for both top speed and draft speed.
After that just need to make sure we're good with some road / street courses, then will give it a crack.
Bear in mind though it will be my first leage thread. I mean, not even sure how to get pics on, but more than happy to start it. It can always be improved 👍
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- JoeOfTheFire
The last things we need to do are set top speed limits for road courses to lower the effect of the draft (normally something like 5mph above the highest speed you reach running solo), decide on pitlane entry speed limits, and possibly have some practice cautions.
Ideally I'd like the first race to happen after I move house and get my internet etc set up, but that's not up to me.
EDIT: I was the guy supplying the pics for FND and SCANA, Knelly, so I could probably do the same for this too.
I think we posted the Indy transmission settings earlier in the thread.
Ideally I'd like the first race to happen after I move house and get my internet etc set up, but that's not up to me.
EDIT: I was the guy supplying the pics for FND and SCANA, Knelly, so I could probably do the same for this too.
I think we posted the Indy transmission settings earlier in the thread.
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Have all the Daytona stuff. As for Indy I need someone to give me the final gear settings for both top speed and draft speed.
After that just need to make sure we're good with some road / street courses, then will give it a crack.
Bear in mind though it will be my first leage thread. I mean, not even sure how to get pics on, but more than happy to start it. It can always be improved 👍
Well I was gonna have a go, but I haven't done one before either. So it would have been awful.
If you need anything doing for the thread I'll obviously help out though 👍
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- Knelly
We have some time, with LV not available till Oct, and Joe moving house, I'm thinking first Tues in Nov (latest) as a first race date. This should work with getting the thread up, and the interest and sign ups, and maybe a practice race the week before.
Good work guys.
Good work guys.
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I've come up with some pitting rules. On all tracks you have to slow down to 60mph (which is the pit lane speed limit in the IndyCar series if I'm not mistaken) before you enter the pit lane and the computer takes control of your car. There are a couple of tracks that cause issues after the pit though so i'll clear them up:
Daytona Road: On exiting the pit lane and re taking control of your car, do not rejoin the track to the right. Instead continue along the long pit road extension to the left still adhering to the 60mph pit lane speed limit. At the end of the pit lane barrier, you are free to accelerate away.
Indy Superspeedway: On exiting the pit lane and re taking control of the car, do not immediately turn right onto the track after turn 1. Instead, you should follow the inside pit road all the way round and exit after turn 2. There is no speed limit on this pit exit though as it is relatively simple, and slowing down would be pointless. Check that there are no faster cars approaching from behind when you rejoin on the back straight.
Daytona Superspeedway: On exiting the pit lane, stay on the inside of the track (to the left of the yellow line) until you are clear out of turn 2. This is to avoid accidents on the high banking. Speed on this pit exit is unrestricted. Check there are no faster cars approaching from behind when you rejoin on the back straight.
On all other tracks (on the UK schedule anyway) the pit entrys and exits are pretty simple, just remember the 60mph entry speed. What do you guys think? And have I been clear enough?
EDIT: And since I haven't had time to help on the Indy speedway testing, can one of you guys post the car specs so I can put it on the OP. Gives Knelly and the rest of us something to refer to when he's setting up the thread 👍
Daytona Road: On exiting the pit lane and re taking control of your car, do not rejoin the track to the right. Instead continue along the long pit road extension to the left still adhering to the 60mph pit lane speed limit. At the end of the pit lane barrier, you are free to accelerate away.
Indy Superspeedway: On exiting the pit lane and re taking control of the car, do not immediately turn right onto the track after turn 1. Instead, you should follow the inside pit road all the way round and exit after turn 2. There is no speed limit on this pit exit though as it is relatively simple, and slowing down would be pointless. Check that there are no faster cars approaching from behind when you rejoin on the back straight.
Daytona Superspeedway: On exiting the pit lane, stay on the inside of the track (to the left of the yellow line) until you are clear out of turn 2. This is to avoid accidents on the high banking. Speed on this pit exit is unrestricted. Check there are no faster cars approaching from behind when you rejoin on the back straight.
On all other tracks (on the UK schedule anyway) the pit entrys and exits are pretty simple, just remember the 60mph entry speed. What do you guys think? And have I been clear enough?
EDIT: And since I haven't had time to help on the Indy speedway testing, can one of you guys post the car specs so I can put it on the OP. Gives Knelly and the rest of us something to refer to when he's setting up the thread 👍
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- JoeOfTheFire
When leaving the pits at Daytona Speedway, it's safer to have people rejoin when they reach the back straight. Until then they remain on the apron through 1 and 2. I'll find the Indy settings later on tonight.
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Yeah I've just thought of that aswell, the high banking would be pretty dangerous. I'll add it.
EDIT: And I just did a practice run of the first race, 28 laps at Daytona road in the 650hp, 725kg setup FGT against 7 stock FGT's. Took me about 45 minutes, finished....last. Fastest lap was around 1:29, wasn't driving particularly well though. Was running on fumes by lap 25 and my racing hards were in bad shape, I suggest an earlier pit
EDIT: And I just did a practice run of the first race, 28 laps at Daytona road in the 650hp, 725kg setup FGT against 7 stock FGT's. Took me about 45 minutes, finished....last. Fastest lap was around 1:29, wasn't driving particularly well though. Was running on fumes by lap 25 and my racing hards were in bad shape, I suggest an earlier pit
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Yeah I've just thought of that aswell, the high banking would be pretty dangerous. I'll add it.
EDIT: And I just did a practice run of the first race, 28 laps at Daytona road in the 650hp, 725kg setup FGT against 7 stock FGT's. Took me about 45 minutes, finished....last. Fastest lap was around 1:29, wasn't driving particularly well though. Was running on fumes by lap 25 and my racing hards were in bad shape, I suggest an earlier pit
My fastest was a 1:28.xxx when I did testing there, though I hadn't quite worked out my lines through a couple of corners and they were different most laps.
EDIT: Indy transmission: Reset transmission to default, then set the max speed at the bottom to 236, then put your final gear at 4.212, and 7th gear at 1.366 . The other six gears can be set however you want. This will limit the top speed of your car to about 232.5 mph. Room restrictions should be set to 690kg and 848BHP.
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- LVracerGT
Don't know if anyone watched the race last night from Motegi, but I want to make it clear that the race control for this series WILL NOT be as bull **** and inconsistent as Brian Barnhart. IndyCar needs to fire him. I've never seen such favoritism in racing.
The race control for this series will be uniform and penalties will apply to everybody, just just specific people.
The race control for this series will be uniform and penalties will apply to everybody, just just specific people.
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No I haven't watched it yet, will watch the replays online 👍 Ran through the Indy Road race on practice today as well, 38 laps against 7 stock fgt's. I got destroyed in our IndyCar (as you'd imagine) but anyway my race time was about 51 minutes and fastest lap on Softs after a tyre change was 1:15.6, on hards my laps were noticeably slower, obviously. Fuel lasted until lap 34 which was when I changed to softs. Was reasonably fun to say I finished 2:45 behind the lead car
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- JoeOfTheFire
No I haven't watched it yet, will watch the replays online 👍 Ran through the Indy Road race on practice today as well, 38 laps against 7 stock fgt's. I got destroyed in our IndyCar (as you'd imagine) but anyway my race time was about 51 minutes and fastest lap on Softs after a tyre change was 1:15.6, on hards my laps were noticeably slower, obviously. Fuel lasted until lap 34 which was when I changed to softs. Was reasonably fun to say I finished 2:45 behind the lead car
I would've gone the other way on tyres in that race, using the softer tyre (comfort medium) for the majority of the race. I would've pitted for hard tyres after my times dropped about a second below the fastest lap I set on the harder tyre (comfort hard), which is currently a low 1:16 that I did while testing.
Since you did it offline, you car would've handled different to online, and your times would be slightly faster than online. Both of these are due to the different physics.
I believe I have my setups sorted out for every track, apart from possibly changing my ride height at Indy superspeedway, and finding a decent setup for Daytona superspeedway. I've given my teammate my setups too (we've even sorted out our racing suit and helmet choice (a team suit, and individual helmets from the same type of helmet design)).
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Oh yes, I forgot to mention one thing we found out while testing at Daytona Superspeedway- the FGT is quite sensitive to the track surface and you really feel the bumps on the inside of turns 1 and 2 (the worst offender is a little bit before where you come off the banking at the end of turn 2. This bump also exists below the yellow line on the apron, so care is needed when leaving the pits on cold tyres. This bump isn't to be confused with the transition from the banking to the back straight, which also likes to turn the car for you.). These bumps can cause your car to slide and oversteer, and can cause you to spin out if you're unable to control the slide. This is mainly affected by tyre wear though, or your setup.
I believe it's mainly be to do with ride height settings, so I'll do some more testing there at some point. If it is ride height, then I'll recommend a maximum or minimum ride height for both ends of the car (drivers wouldn't have to follow this if they didn't want to, it'd just be a sort of guideline to help them not lose control over those bumps).
I believe it's mainly be to do with ride height settings, so I'll do some more testing there at some point. If it is ride height, then I'll recommend a maximum or minimum ride height for both ends of the car (drivers wouldn't have to follow this if they didn't want to, it'd just be a sort of guideline to help them not lose control over those bumps).
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- JoeOfTheFire
Speaking of safety cars/cautions- what leagues/series I've been with in the past have done for oval cautions is when slowing down, they let the car simply roll rather than braking (unless you have to brake to not hit or pass the car in front), so that further accidents are avoided.
To make cautions a bit more clear, I suggest possibly not counting the lap that the caution came out on as one of the 3 caution laps, as it could be confusing depending on where the leader is when a caution comes out. Having said that, the safety car would probably help in these situations. Either way, hopefully you know what I mean about it possibly being confusing not knowing which caution lap we're on ("can I pit this lap or is it next lap?" etc). Perhaps we could have the safety car run the low line on the first caution lap (can't pit), and the high line on the next 2 caution laps (can pit), so that people know if they're allowed to pit. (I guess that the safety car would run on the apron at some point on caution lap #2 so that people between it and the leader know that they can take the wavearound.)
Hopefully you get the general idea of what I'm saying. >__>
Anyway, things left to test/work out: The "5mph rule" for limited top speed for drafting needs to be worked out for all road courses, I need to see if it's ride height that makes the cars loose over the bumps in turns 1 and 2 on the low line at Daytona, and possibly testing/practicing some cautions with our safety car driver. I'll post the Daytona Superspeedway settings if I still have them on my car.
EDIT for Daytona settings: 631 BHP, 690 kg. Transmission: reset everything to default, then put max speed at the bottom right to 217mph, then put final gear to 4.230, and then put 7th gear at 1.465 . You get 210/211 mph running solo, and these settings limit the drafting speeds to 215/216 mph if I remember correctly.
I had another thought about a possible solution to problems in turns 1 and 2 at Daytona- adding some rear downforce.
To make cautions a bit more clear, I suggest possibly not counting the lap that the caution came out on as one of the 3 caution laps, as it could be confusing depending on where the leader is when a caution comes out. Having said that, the safety car would probably help in these situations. Either way, hopefully you know what I mean about it possibly being confusing not knowing which caution lap we're on ("can I pit this lap or is it next lap?" etc). Perhaps we could have the safety car run the low line on the first caution lap (can't pit), and the high line on the next 2 caution laps (can pit), so that people know if they're allowed to pit. (I guess that the safety car would run on the apron at some point on caution lap #2 so that people between it and the leader know that they can take the wavearound.)
Hopefully you get the general idea of what I'm saying. >__>
Anyway, things left to test/work out: The "5mph rule" for limited top speed for drafting needs to be worked out for all road courses, I need to see if it's ride height that makes the cars loose over the bumps in turns 1 and 2 on the low line at Daytona, and possibly testing/practicing some cautions with our safety car driver. I'll post the Daytona Superspeedway settings if I still have them on my car.
EDIT for Daytona settings: 631 BHP, 690 kg. Transmission: reset everything to default, then put max speed at the bottom right to 217mph, then put final gear to 4.230, and then put 7th gear at 1.465 . You get 210/211 mph running solo, and these settings limit the drafting speeds to 215/216 mph if I remember correctly.
I had another thought about a possible solution to problems in turns 1 and 2 at Daytona- adding some rear downforce.
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Increasing the ride height did the trick for Daytona.
A few things that need clearing up in the OP:
It talks about racing hard/soft tyres, though we'll be using comfort hard/medium tyres.
You wrote 2 sets of weight and BHP settings for Daytona oval (should be 631 BHP and 690 KG).
For both ovals you say about the 2 tyre compound rule, though we settled on just using the harder tyre in oval races (comfort hard).
Also, for the Daytona road pitlane, are we allowed to drive through the empty pit boxes when we are given control of the car leaving the pits? One final thing: will we be enforcing a rule that you have to stay within the pit entry/exit lines? It's quite hard to do this on some tracks, such as Tokyo reverse (small yellow dotted line as you exit).
At Daytona Road, the autodrive accelerates up to 62mph before you gain control at the pit exit, so this shouldn't be counted as breaking our 60mph speed limit, as long as the driver quickly gets their speed down to 60 or slower for the rest of the pit lane. Running solo at Daytona Road, the fastest I've hit is 204mph before turn 1, though low fuel may give you 205mph and I've only tested on comfort hard tyres so far. So I decided on these transmission settings: Reset to default, then put max speed at the bottom right to 211 mph, then put final gear to 4.250, and 7th gear should be at 1.509 . This should give you about 209 mph in the draft.
A few things that need clearing up in the OP:
It talks about racing hard/soft tyres, though we'll be using comfort hard/medium tyres.
You wrote 2 sets of weight and BHP settings for Daytona oval (should be 631 BHP and 690 KG).
For both ovals you say about the 2 tyre compound rule, though we settled on just using the harder tyre in oval races (comfort hard).
Also, for the Daytona road pitlane, are we allowed to drive through the empty pit boxes when we are given control of the car leaving the pits? One final thing: will we be enforcing a rule that you have to stay within the pit entry/exit lines? It's quite hard to do this on some tracks, such as Tokyo reverse (small yellow dotted line as you exit).
At Daytona Road, the autodrive accelerates up to 62mph before you gain control at the pit exit, so this shouldn't be counted as breaking our 60mph speed limit, as long as the driver quickly gets their speed down to 60 or slower for the rest of the pit lane. Running solo at Daytona Road, the fastest I've hit is 204mph before turn 1, though low fuel may give you 205mph and I've only tested on comfort hard tyres so far. So I decided on these transmission settings: Reset to default, then put max speed at the bottom right to 211 mph, then put final gear to 4.250, and 7th gear should be at 1.509 . This should give you about 209 mph in the draft.
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Okay, sorry about the issues. It's because I haven't been at the testing sessions 
I'll sort them now. So are we using comfort tyres for all the road races aswell? It just seems abit strange running formula cars on anything other than slicks.
EDIT: Although I understand when it comes to the oval tracks. And I'll clarify on the pit lane rules ASAP on the OP. And are we having different transmission settings for every single track or something? Is it not possible to set on one transmission setting for the road courses? Thanks 👍
I'll sort them now. So are we using comfort tyres for all the road races aswell? It just seems abit strange running formula cars on anything other than slicks.EDIT: Although I understand when it comes to the oval tracks. And I'll clarify on the pit lane rules ASAP on the OP. And are we having different transmission settings for every single track or something? Is it not possible to set on one transmission setting for the road courses? Thanks 👍
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- JoeOfTheFire
Yep, comfort tyres on all tracks. A universal transmission setting wouldn't really work for road courses because of the different speeds you reach on them. e.g you'll each a lower top speed on Laguna Seca than at Tokyo Reverse.
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Okay, i'll leave the transmission settings to you. Post them up whenever you do another track 
and what was the reason for running on comforts again?
EDIT: Changed the tyres on the OP, it's looking good. Specs nearly ready, UK schedule done, projected start date, pit rules done and cautions pretty much sorted, just need a test. Good work guys 👍
and what was the reason for running on comforts again?EDIT: Changed the tyres on the OP, it's looking good. Specs nearly ready, UK schedule done, projected start date, pit rules done and cautions pretty much sorted, just need a test. Good work guys 👍
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Anyone add me?
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I will the next time I get on GT5
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