Representative Steve Scalise Shot in a "Deliberate Attack" at GOP Softball Practice

[Sanji Himura]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/alexandria-virginia-shooting/index.html'

Two Capitol Police officers were also shot. The representative, who serves as the House Majority Whip, is expected to survive.

 

[Joey D]

Since he's in the leadership, I wonder why the security detail wasn't more vigilant. Sounds like the shooter got upwards of 100 shots off before being taken out (at least per some reports).

 

[ryzno]

I just read some of the most hateful posts on FB. People are praising the shooter. Party of love and tolerance my ass. I will never associate myself as a Democrat again. They have lost all respect with me.

#patriot

 

[Johnnypenso]

It's possible that Republicans were directly targeted in this attack. Could be a coincidence. Time will tell.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/...s-man-asked-whether-republicans-or-dems-field

Rep. DeSantis who at baseball practice recalls: “A guy...walked up to us that was asking whether it was Republicans or Democrats out there.” pic.twitter.com/GwozCPRdve

— Fox News (@FoxNews) June 14, 2017

 

[UKMikey]

I just read some of the most hateful posts on FB. People are praising the shooter. Party of love and tolerance my ass. I will never associate myself as a Democrat again. They have lost all respect with me.

#patriot

Meanwhile on @Johnnypenso's link above we're getting comments like "The Democratic Party is a terrorist organisation" and "Lock them up. All of them." It appears to be the 2011 Tucson shooting in reverse.

Nobody should be praising the shooter.

 

[Joey D]

I just read some of the most hateful posts on FB. People are praising the shooter. Party of love and tolerance my ass. I will never associate myself as a Democrat again. They have lost all respect with me.

#patriot

If the shooter would have gone after Democrats, Republicans on Facebook would be doing the same thing. Both parties have their idiots but they by no means represent the entire group. This line of thinking is one of the reason our country is so divided right now.

 

[ryzno]

If the shooter would have gone after Democrats, Republicans on Facebook would be doing the same thing. Both parties have their idiots but they by no means represent the entire group. This line of thinking is one of the reason our country is so divided right now.

"Resistance". Who says that word? Who is promoting that message?

 

[Joey D]

"Resistance". Who says that word? Who is promoting that message?

"Obama is a Muslim terrorist" and "Obama is turning the US into the Soviet Union". Who says those statements? Who promoted that message?

It's ridiculous to assume the entire Democrat party is responsible for saying idiotic things on social media, just like it's ridiculous to assume the entire Republican party is the same way.

 

[ryzno]

"Obama is a Muslim terrorist" and "Obama is turning the US into the Soviet Union". Who says those statements? Who promoted that message?

It's ridiculous to assume the entire Democrat party is responsible for saying idiotic things on social media, just like it's ridiculous to assume the entire Republican party is the same way.

I didn't say the whole party is to blame. I'm still done with the party.

 

[UKMikey]

I didn't say the whole party is to blame.

Party of love and tolerance my ass.

Okay...

 

[ryzno]

Whatever...

The shooter is dead.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I will never associate myself as a Democrat again. They have lost all respect with me.

Why do you assume that the Democrats organised and sanctioned it?

 

[DK]

Why do you assume that the Democrats organised and sanctioned it?

Something something Deep State something something Crooked Hillary.

What do I win?

 

[Johnnypenso]

Why do you assume that the Democrats organised and sanctioned it?

Can you quote where he assumed that? Or is that your assumption?

 

[ryzno]

Laugh all you want @DK
Possible baseball gunman posted profane Handel comment on Facebook
http://www.ajc.com/news/state--regi...k/SZWiA4C5FbQiFDjUwb0a4I/?ecmp=socialflow_ajc

Obviously I doubt y'all know who she is. But us in GA do. This election on June 20th is supposed to be the make or break of the Trump administration.
The seat has been Republican for decades(most recent Tom Price(currently our secretary of health IIRC(this election is to fill his seat). So a loss equals America is tired of Trump as far as the media is concerned. #DEEPSTATE

Y'all can take what you want from this post. Later!

Edit:

 

[Johnnypenso]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/1...l-practice-shooting-multiple-people-shot.html

The shooter, who had a violent history including arrests for battery, resisting arrest and drunken driving, was identified as 66-year-old James T. Hodgkinson, of Illinois, Fox News confirmed. President Trump said Hodgkinson died from injuries sustained when he was shot by police. "I have just been informed that the alleged shooter at the Republican baseball practice is someone who apparently volunteered on my presidential campaign," [Bernie] Sanders said in a statement. "I am sickened by this despicable act. Let me be as clear as I can be. Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society and I condemn this action in the strongest possible terms."

CNN:

James T. Hodgkinson, the man identified as shooting a Republican member of congress and four others on Wednesday morning, was a small business owner in Illinois who defined himself publicly by his firm support of Bernie Sanders' progressive politics -- and his hatred of conservatives and President Donald Trump. This is based on CNN's review of Hodgkinson's Facebook profile, public records, and three years of impassioned letters to his local newspaper. "Trump is a Traitor. Trump Has Destroyed Our Democracy. It's Time to Destroy Trump & Co." he posted on his personal Facebook page on March 22. "Republicans are the Taliban of the USA," he posted in February.

Looks like it's trending towards a politically motivated act of domestic terrorism.

 

[DDastardly00]

Gabby Gifford's statement:

"I am heartbroken for the pain of Congressman Scalise, the other victims, and their family, friends and colleagues who survived," Giffords said in the statement.

She also praised the Capitol Police, who were the first to respond to the shooting.

"I am thankful for the great courage of the Capitol Police, who were my protectors after I was shot and became my friends," Giffords said. "I also know the courage it takes to recover from a shooting like this, and I know Steve and everyone there this morning have such courage in great supply."

Statements like this mean more coming from her because she's been through it before.

 

[HELLAFLUSH240SX]

Whatever...

The shooter is dead.

Dylan Roof cited the Council of Conservative Citizens, so I guess you aren't a republican either?
I guess you won't vote for anyone in the rest election. Don't complain when you don't like who wins.

 

[ryzno]

Dylan Roof cited the Council of Conservative Citizens, so I guess you aren't a republican either?
I guess you won't vote for anyone in the rest election. Don't complain when you don't like who wins.

Actually I can't vote in the election I mentioned above. I don't stay in the 6th district, I stay in the 5th.
And I will complain. The person running against her can't even vote for himself. He really has GAs interest at heart /s

I've voted every election was able to and I will continue to complain about whoever I want regardless of party or if I voted for them.

I see the government trying to be destroyed by BOTH sides. And I'm honestly sick of it.

Edit: I just happened to find out our representative from the 11th district was there in the "on deck circle" when the shooting started. He is ok.

 

[DDastardly00]

Rep. Rodney Davis calling it the first political rhetorical terrorist attack, he was at bat when the first shots rang out:
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Davis, still dressed in his clothes from practice, said there has got to be a "breaking point" in the heated political rhetoric in the country.

"I went back to my office, and I took the chance to come down here because I wanted to talk to people about what I'd witnessed, and about the effect it should have as we move forward as a country, and that's why I'm here, bloodied in my uniform, still not had a chance to clean up because it's that important that a message gets out that the hatefulness — this political rhetoric hate, we'll let the witnesses describe, but this could be the first political rhetorical terrorist act and that has to stop."

"I believe that there's such a hatefulness in what we see in American politics and policy discussions right now, and in social media and the 24-hour news cycle," Davis said. "This has got to stop. We can disagree on how to govern — that's what makes our country great. I'm here because we're all Americans. And I think Republicans and Democrats need to use this day today to stand together and say stop. Let's work together, let's get things done. We can have our differences, but let's not let it lead to such hate."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...ical-rhetorical-terrorist-act/article/2625949
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I agree with him 100%. This needs to be a rallying cry of bipartisan unity for all Americans, we may disagree, we may argue but violence is not acceptable in any form, period.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Y'all can take what you want from this post.

I'll ask you again: how does this prove that the shooter was acting on behalf of the Democrats, and that they had knowledge if his actions and condoned them?

 

[ryzno]

I'll ask you again: how does this prove that the shooter was acting on behalf of the Democrats, and that they had knowledge if his actions and condoned them?

I never said he was acting on their behalf. Or that they had knowledge. I stand by my statement of the Left promoting violence.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I never said he was acting on their behalf. Or that they had knowledge

But you did say this:

I will never associate myself as a Democrat again.

You're making a connection between the shooter, the political left and the Democrats.

I stand by my statement of the Left promoting violence.

But it's totally okay when the political right do it? After all, Donald Trump insinuated that Hilary Clinton would be shot if she tried to pass gun control legislation during the campaign. Where was your outrage then?

This incident overnight was one person acting alone. And it should be assumed that he was a lone wolf until proven otherwise. His actions do not speak for the wider body of the political left.

Perhaps I should remind you of this exchange from the London attacks thread:

Lock them all up and kill them. Saves tax money and innocent peoples lives.

So the rule of law should just get thrown out.

For who exactly.

Yes. For any group that be considered a terrorist group, including street gangs. Look at it as a criminal purge.

So you, a self-proclaimed member of the political right, advocate extrajudicual killings of people branded "terrorists" which you then broadly define so as to include street gangs. You're promoting a system that would enable political leaders to kill anyone they wanted so long as they were a "terrorist" without any regard for due process or the law. It's a system of violence, intimidation and terror, and given your condemnation of the political left endorsing violence (which is incredibly hypocritical of you), those people would likely be detained and murdered under your system.

That's tyranny. And if you're so comfortable branding an entire group of people based on the actions of one man, then I think it is fair to say based on your above comments that everyone on the political right endorses tyranny.

 

[ryzno]

You're making a connection between the shooter, the political left and the Democrats.

Did you read any of the links above?

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Did you read any of the links above?

I don't see any messages from the Democrats stating, inferring or implying that they support the actions of the shooter. After all, you were the one who made the connection to them in the first place:

I will never associate myself as a Democrat again.

 

[ryzno]

I don't see any messages from the Democrats stating, inferring or implying that they support the actions of the shooter. After all, you were the one who made the connection to them in the first place:

And I won't. What are you trying to ask?
Do you think, I think he was actually hired by the left to do this?
Or...
He's some idiot drinking too much of the Kool-Aid and snapped?

I'd say B. But who knows, he's dead. They can say what they want now.

 

[Joey D]

I agree with him 100%. This needs to be a rallying cry of bipartisan unity for all Americans, we may disagree, we may argue but violence is not acceptable in any form, period.

I agree with this, but so many politicians have pushed partisanship by flat out refusing to work with the other side I don't think you'll see this happening. If anything it's going to get much worse, especially with the kind of divide Trump brings. It would have been no different with Clinton mind you.

 

[DDastardly00]

I agree with this, but so many politicians have pushed partisanship by flat out refusing to work with the other side I don't think you'll see this happening. If anything it's going to get much worse, especially with the kind of divide Trump brings. It would have been no different with Clinton mind you.

That is certainly where we have been heading, I'm just hoping we've hit rock bottom and we start to climb our way back out of it. After 8 years of obstructionist Republicans and Obama, we simply can't take four more years of the Democrats doing the same but this time, on steroids.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

That is certainly where we have been heading, I'm just hoping we've hit rock bottom and we start to climb our way back out of it. After 8 years of obstructionist Republicans and Obama, we simply can't take four more years of the Democrats doing the same but this time, on steroids.

How is a party obstructing when it's not even in power in any of the three branches really? I'd ask the same question in the regards of Obama's first two years. Sure both parties insight their own interest and both parties even have factions the create road blocks for their own leaders, this shouldn't be a reasoning for crazy people to site violence. Nor should the violence mean that people set aside they beliefs and band together, in the moment it's great that people understand this is an attack on government not left or right.

 

[DDastardly00]

How is a party obstructing when it's not even in power in any of the three branches really? I'd ask the same question in the regards of Obama's first two years. Sure both parties insight their own interest and both parties even have factions the create road blocks for their own leaders, this shouldn't be a reasoning for crazy people to site violence. Nor should the violence mean that people set aside they beliefs and band together, in the moment it's great that people understand this is an attack on government not left or right.

You're right, I shouldn't have said 8 years. The Republicans won the house back in 2010 and the Senate in 2014 so for the first two years of Obama's presidency they did not hold a majority in either. They did however hold a majority in both for the last two years of Obama's presidency.